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Post by Fists of Fury Fri May 25, 2012 8:37 pm

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England unchanged. Rampaul and Shillingford in for the Windies.

Windies win the toss and will bat. A great toss to win - runs galore today.

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Post by msp83 Sat May 26, 2012 9:13 pm

Ah ell, this isn't looking good for England. Anderson hasn't got the ball to move much, and his pace hasn't crossed the 130 kph mark as yet. He generally gets it to swing at over 132-135 KPH.

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Post by alfie Sat May 26, 2012 9:14 pm

I was in favourite of Bresnan for this series , as the man in possession and a good record , but I was disappointed with his display on day one , and would agree he will come under pressure from Finn unless he does something in the second innings.

Which he well might.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat May 26, 2012 9:22 pm

sammy gets a bit lucky for his 100 there -

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Post by alfie Sat May 26, 2012 9:23 pm

Sammy in the nervous nineties. Not sure how nervous he'll be - seems a pretty laid back chap...

Not at all nervous it seems : big swing , over the gully and four !

...and another edge and up comes his hundred ! Nowhere near where he was aiming but what the heck Very Happy

It was written...

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Post by msp83 Sat May 26, 2012 9:23 pm

Hundred for Sammy!. Bit edgy in the 90s, but nevertheless a significant achievement considring his position in the side and the way it came.

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Post by alfie Sat May 26, 2012 9:29 pm

Frustration continuing for England bowlers...

More runs coming behind the wicket than in front but that wicket continues to elude them.

Jimmy beats the edge again - that was just too good to hit even for a man on 113 ...

Mr Dar has a word with Jimmy. Wonder what he said ? Can't be too bad , plenty of smiles ...

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Post by guildfordbat Sat May 26, 2012 9:38 pm

Alfie,

A very frustrating start to the day for the England bowlers. I'm about to go out for an hour so that should get us a wicket. Wink

Off topic but far more important - Human Windmill was indeed a remarkable man. I and I'm sure many others appreciated your post.

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Post by alfie Sat May 26, 2012 9:44 pm

200 stand ...

Never saw this coming at tea yesterday Smile

Starting to wonder where a wicket is coming from.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat May 26, 2012 9:45 pm

For me this is where Finn would be good. A bowler who could come in and bowl a really pacey 4-5 over spell at around 87-90 mph and shake up the batsmen. Bresnan just isn't giving them many problems at the moment
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat May 26, 2012 9:45 pm

Just as I post that he gets a wicket Laugh
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Post by alfie Sat May 26, 2012 9:47 pm

...aha

That did it Smile

Bresnan gets the break at last , KP with the catch...

Well played Daren Sammy. clap

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat May 26, 2012 9:47 pm

Well played Darren Sammy clap

Very entertaining innings and has given the West Indies a great platform in this match
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Post by msp83 Sat May 26, 2012 9:47 pm

Yes Darren Sammy has played that one stupid shot of his and thrown it away, but this time he has done it after scoring a hundred.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat May 26, 2012 9:50 pm

Yeaaah..

England strike

sammy 100

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Post by msp83 Sat May 26, 2012 9:52 pm

Roach ahead of Rampaul and Shillingford? Surprising. May be they ae looking at his stickability factor, as Samuels is still out there in the middle. But Ravi was good enough to do that as well as playing a few shots of his own.

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Post by msp83 Sat May 26, 2012 9:56 pm

It was just that matter of getting a wicket for Tim B, now he disposes off Marlon Samuels!.

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Post by alfie Sat May 26, 2012 9:57 pm

And Bresnan has two !

Samuels gone ... Jimmy will be glad to take the catch...guess he won't have to congratulate Marlon on that double century after all Very Happy

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Post by paulscholes Sat May 26, 2012 10:00 pm

thats y bresnan is in the england x11

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Post by msp83 Sat May 26, 2012 10:09 pm

Well, despite those couple of wickets, I have a feeling England will have to think of Finn for the next match. Of course bresnan could get the last 2 and finish with 5 and then come in at 8 and blast a hundred to make him undroppable!!.

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Post by alfie Sat May 26, 2012 10:09 pm

Nearly another one - Swann really should have caught Roach there , Broad unlucky...and a nice drive for four rubs salt in it ...

England will want to nip these last two out now and keep it below 380...reckon this is a par 375-400

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Post by alfie Sat May 26, 2012 10:15 pm

msp83 wrote:Well, despite those couple of wickets, I have a feeling England will have to think of Finn for the next match. Of course bresnan could get the last 2 and finish with 5 and then come in at 8 and blast a hundred to make him undroppable!!.

The Finn/Bresnan debate is an interesting one , and may run for a while...no clear answer as they bring different things to the table : Finn pace , bounce , a good strike rate - but Bresnan has been very effective for England with great control on some flat decks , plus a lot of very useful runs , and of course Mr 12 from 12 Lucky Charm!

Nice sort of selection problem to have Smile

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Post by msp83 Sat May 26, 2012 10:18 pm

Bresnan now just 1 short of that fifer!!!.

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Post by alfie Sat May 26, 2012 10:18 pm

Four for Bresnan...

Good catch Andrew Strauss.

Bresnan must have read 606v2 overnight Very Happy

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Post by alfie Sat May 26, 2012 10:28 pm

Rampaul is a decent bat for a number eleven...not sure why Roach and Shillingford are ahead of him ?

Bresnan has his hundred Smile

And 370 on the board...

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Post by msp83 Sat May 26, 2012 10:30 pm

Yet another first over wicket of a new spel for guess who?????

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Post by msp83 Sat May 26, 2012 10:33 pm

370 is a pretty good score on the bord, england will have to bat well.
Hoping for hundreds from Andrew Strauss and Kevin Pietersen!.

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Post by alfie Sat May 26, 2012 10:35 pm

Swann time : and Works immediately , Prior with a neat stumping and 370 it is...

Good cricket , England will be glad to have taken the last four for sixty odd today, but West Indies have just about got a par score I reckon.

Now I think England's batsmen have to win this one. They will want to get 100 ahead to compensate for batting last , so they will need to be on their game.

This might be a very good Test Match

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Post by alfie Sat May 26, 2012 10:37 pm

By the way , msp , Darren Sammy asks if you enjoyed his innings Whistle

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Post by alfie Sat May 26, 2012 10:54 pm

Cook gone ... And now he isn't !

Well that had to happen sooner or later with all the no balls Roach bowls ...

Was a great catch by Ramdin too.

Could be a big moment...

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Post by msp83 Sat May 26, 2012 11:00 pm

alfie wrote:By the way , msp , Darren Sammy asks if you enjoyed his innings Whistle
Alfie, let him know I do acknoledge it indeed was good innings, but the thing is to do it consistently!. And I got it right that he would play a typical stupid shot to got out!. But pretty good for a political and not cricketing appointee to score a test hundred, that would lend a bit of credibility to his position and statements.

Unlucky for West Indies, Cook played a bad shot of a good ball to nick behind, but it was a no ball from Kemar Roach.

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Post by guildfordbat Sat May 26, 2012 11:01 pm

Wow!

Just back before lunch and we're batting. Was Bresnan particularly good for his fourfer?

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Post by alfie Sat May 26, 2012 11:03 pm

Lunch 8/0

England's session.

Wouldn't have been if Roach hadn't overstepped...

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Post by msp83 Sat May 26, 2012 11:05 pm

So the England openers see them through the short session before lunch, of course with some luck coming there way. Roach looked sharp in that session, and Rampaul looked ok.
West Indies have put up the runs on the bord, England will have to bat very well here to turn the tables.

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Post by GSC Sat May 26, 2012 11:06 pm

England will have to bat well, but if they can surpass the WIs they'll still feel they can knock them over cheaply in the 2nd.
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Post by msp83 Sat May 26, 2012 11:12 pm

Will be interesting whether Shillingford would get some turn here. Swanny did turn a few, if Shillingford manages the same, have to see how England would approach the challenge. Will they go after him and try to unsettle him? I thought the Australians showed a touch too much of respect the moment he turned a couple and that just played into his hands. Englnd, not the best of players against spin, should not make the same mistake.

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Post by alfie Sat May 26, 2012 11:13 pm

guildfordbat wrote:Wow!

Just back before lunch and we're batting. Was Bresnan particularly good for his fourfer?

Guildford , I reckon Bresnan had been reading all the comments on here about Finn and felt he needed to do something Smile

He bowled much better today , got a bit of help from some loose shots it is true , but I think you could say it was canny bowling first to well set players and then to the tail...

Finn will still be exercising selectors' minds , but Bresnan's final figures are making him harder to drop.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat May 26, 2012 11:18 pm

so has that 4 wicket haul sxplained why england are a top bowling unit- someone allways comes in- weather its one of the big 3, monty,bres or finn- someone steps up !!

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Post by guildfordbat Sat May 26, 2012 11:29 pm

alfie wrote:
guildfordbat wrote:Wow!

Just back before lunch and we're batting. Was Bresnan particularly good for his fourfer?

Guildford , I reckon Bresnan had been reading all the comments on here about Finn and felt he needed to do something Smile

He bowled much better today , got a bit of help from some loose shots it is true , but I think you could say it was canny bowling first to well set players and then to the tail...

Finn will still be exercising selectors' minds , but Bresnan's final figures are making him harder to drop.

Thanks, Alfie. Seems like Finn will need to stay patient ....

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Post by msp83 Sun May 27, 2012 12:11 am

Has the West Inies got a bowling coach? If so, time he's send packing!. Cook nicked behind of another Roach no ball, yet again, this has to be absolutely frustrating for the West Indies, particularly after the fight they showed with the bat.
Cook should get a ton here, he has been incredibly lucky in this innings.

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Post by GSC Sun May 27, 2012 12:13 am

Don't think Sammy can begrudge Cook a bit of luck after his 100
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Post by mystiroakey Sun May 27, 2012 12:28 am

declaration on 550/6 my predo

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Post by alfie Sun May 27, 2012 12:34 am

Well Cook couldn't take advantage ...edges Rampaul and this one is legal ...

Funny innings - few nice shots but really : three edges?

Not typical Cook at all ...

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Post by mystiroakey Sun May 27, 2012 12:56 am

struass and trott are both due double 100's- the game is set up for it

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Post by mystiroakey Sun May 27, 2012 1:19 am

we are motoring- thank gawd for that- the only way to play test these days on these tracks

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Post by dyrewolfe Sun May 27, 2012 2:08 am

Uh-oh that could be a big breakthrough for the Windies. Trott lbw for 35. Reviewed it but went with umpire's decision. Close but close enough. That man Rampaul again.


Now for the million dollar question...can Kevin Pietersen stick around and make a meaningful contribution. I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun May 27, 2012 2:12 am

I don't know why I bother with Sky really.

As soon as i watch england they are Poopie.

I watch them yesterday.. couldn't bowl for poop.

Out all day today so they bowl well and start batting well.. i come back and turn on.. Trott screws up straight away.

It's no wonder i am so negative.. i never see them anything but rubbish.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun May 27, 2012 2:13 am

kp has been in good nick so i think he will

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun May 27, 2012 2:16 am

i can easily see windies walking this.

looks like eng are rapidly falling down the pecking order again. why can we never get to the top and stay there?

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Post by dyrewolfe Sun May 27, 2012 2:19 am

Big 6 from KP. Wonder if he'll give the Windies some T20 treatment today?

Strauss joining in, cutting loose with a couple of nicely timed 4s. Perhaps the KP Effect is rubbing off on him? Wink 50 up for the skipper.


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Post by mystiroakey Sun May 27, 2012 2:19 am

i can see a quick 50 of 40 here for kp- mark my words

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