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Post by Carrotdude Sun 10 Apr 2011, 4:46 pm

I thought it might be a good idea to have a thread devoted to keeping track of how the potential England players of the future are doing in county cricket. From the first 3 days of the summer the stand out performances I have noticed are from Adil Rashid who has taken match figures of 11-114 and from Ben Stokes who took 6 wickets and is currently 100* in Durham's second innings.

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Post by Guest Sun 10 Apr 2011, 5:50 pm

rasihd should be in the side, and stokes will in a couple of years

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Post by scfc1992 Sun 10 Apr 2011, 10:31 pm

Tom Smith in a couple of years

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Post by Carrotdude Sun 10 Apr 2011, 11:26 pm

James Taylor at Leicestershire is one I'm definitely looking at this year, if he has a good start to the season he may well be in with a chance of playing for England, along with Hildreth from Somerset.

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Post by Luke Mon 11 Apr 2011, 4:35 am

Another player from Yorkshire to keep an eye on is ADAM LYTH.
A 24 year old left handed opening batsman, who can bowl right
handed off breaks if required.
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Post by Luke Mon 11 Apr 2011, 4:36 am

Another player from Yorkshire to keep an eye on is ADAM LYTH.
A 24 year old left handed opening batsman, who can bowl right
handed off breaks if required.
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Post by Liam_Main Tue 12 Apr 2011, 6:28 pm

Rory Hamilton Brown will be in the twenty 20 team in a years time.
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Post by Guest Tue 12 Apr 2011, 7:39 pm

reece topley

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Post by hodge Tue 12 Apr 2011, 9:48 pm

Jos Buttler of somerset

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Post by JDizzle Tue 12 Apr 2011, 10:26 pm

James Taylor. List A and First Class record just so far superior to anyone else his age now, and for a long while. Two 1000 run seasons before he is 21 is just breathtaking.

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Post by GG Wed 13 Apr 2011, 8:46 am

Future England Team:

Cook (c)
Lyth
Trott
Taylor
Stokes
Rashid
Broad
Davies (w)
Buck
Briggs
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Post by Guest Wed 13 Apr 2011, 9:04 am

davies batting ahead of broad surely

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Post by GG Wed 13 Apr 2011, 11:39 am

cricketfan90 wrote:davies batting ahead of broad surely

Broads batting will improve over the next few years. As Davies is more attacking he's better lower down.

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Post by Guest Wed 13 Apr 2011, 12:46 pm

yh but davies is an awesome batsman broad should bat at 8

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Post by MR. scotland27 Thu 14 Apr 2011, 6:28 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:reece topley
i have played against him!!!!!!!!!!!! Very Happy
also once had a net session with kp and got concussed when the ball got smashed back at him....
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Post by Guest Thu 14 Apr 2011, 6:52 pm

awesome lol


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Post by Carrotdude Fri 15 Apr 2011, 10:05 pm

Samit Patel made a century today, if he sorts his fitness out he would be a definite in the ODI team for me - as a second spinner in place of Tredwell/Yardy.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Sat 16 Apr 2011, 9:19 pm

Being tipped for England stardom on this thread has obviously gone to their heads Wink

In the current round of CC matches they've all struggled to reach 30 when batting: Rashid (7), Stokes (14 & 22), Taylor (7 & 24), Lyth (0 & 26), Buttler (0 & 12), Hildreth (0 & 5). Can't be bothered to work out the combined average but it's seriously paltry!

The malaise has spread to the bowling: Rashid (1 - 59 and 0 - 99). At least Topley took a few wickets..... Smile

From a Surrey perspective at least The Hyphen (RHB) was not playing and so couldn't add to the list of woe.
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sat 16 Apr 2011, 10:37 pm

on the plus side though corporal, Chris Woakes blasted a run-a-ball century and picked up nine wickets, so it's not all doom and gloom...

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Post by guildfordbat Sun 17 Apr 2011, 6:07 pm

Jason Roy. Perhaps not a name so well known as some of the others mentioned although the Corporal and Carrot have had to put up with me banging on about this young batsman on the Surrey board for almost twelve months! In keeping with the Corporal's comments about the form of those being tipped for international stardom, Roy was out for a duck in a second XI game this week .... Whistle

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Post by Carrotdude Sun 17 Apr 2011, 10:14 pm

Oh dear, we've jinxed them all! Woakes did very well though.

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Post by Liam_Main Sun 17 Apr 2011, 11:02 pm

James Hildreth scores big tons something England needs had a very good season last year.
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Post by Carrotdude Fri 22 Apr 2011, 10:14 am

Rashid still only has 1 wicket in three innings since that first match, Stokes hasn't done anything, Woakes batted well btu failed to take a wicket, Hildreth got a 50 the other day and James Taylor got a big double hundred albeit against a university side.

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Post by hodge Fri 22 Apr 2011, 2:45 pm

Liam_Main4 wrote:James Hildreth scores big tons something England needs had a very good season last year.

the main arguement against Hildreth is concistency, usually for somerset he goes good year, bad year, good year etc, so needs a few games to test him this season however he hit a 50 in first innings Vs Lancs so he could in some sort of form still

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Sun 24 Apr 2011, 4:21 pm

Buttler got 94* off 56 balls today for Somerset in the 40 over competition .... Looks as though his season has now started.

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Post by hodge Sun 24 Apr 2011, 4:31 pm

was listening to the end of that innnings, Kieswetter also scored 100 in the same innings

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Post by Carrotdude Sun 24 Apr 2011, 11:35 pm

Corporalhumblebucket wrote:Buttler got 94* off 56 balls today for Somerset in the 40 over competition .... Looks as though his season has now started.

I'm very much hoping he can grow into the lower order big hitter that England really need. Luke Wright is definitely not the answer!

I know it's not a future star but excellent to see Simon Jones get 4 wickets today, Rashid played well despite Yorkshire's defeat as well.

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Post by JDizzle Mon 25 Apr 2011, 12:08 am

Jimmy Taylor got a nice 69 off 61 balls in a Leics side that collapsed around him! Hopefully he can build on his 200 against the Uni side and get some runs in the Championship. With Hildreth, Mogs and Bopara not getting runs who is going to be in the Test Side for Colly this summer? Eoin still favourite to begin with?

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Post by Liam_Main Mon 25 Apr 2011, 12:30 am

Taylor,Hildreth,Bopara and Morgan will be eager to replace Collingwood.Morgans the likely favourite though.
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Post by Carrotdude Mon 25 Apr 2011, 6:35 pm

Another excellent innings from Taylor today, albeit against poor bowling. He really looks like he knows what he's doing in the one day game and I'd love to see him in the ODI side.

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Post by LOVERBOY Mon 25 Apr 2011, 6:48 pm

Watch out for Gareth Berg forcing himself into The ODI side.
Consistently fine performances with bat and ball from this ever improving cricketer are not going unnoticed .

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Post by guildfordbat Mon 25 Apr 2011, 6:59 pm

Lover - I believe he's called the Ice Man but otherwise know very little about Gareth Berg. Unfairly from what you write I had jumped to the view last season that he was 'a bits and pieces' player. Can you please educate me (and perhaps a few others) a bit more about him, thanks.

Carrot - Taylor is a class performer. Most impressed when I saw him at the Oval last season.


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Post by hodge Mon 25 Apr 2011, 7:04 pm

haven't seen Taylor live yet, however i still believe it's a 2 horse race for Sri Lanka between Morgan due to staring in the ODI and T20 team and Hildreth who lead the Lions over the winter continuing from the excellent form he had last season, this season having a hit and miss start admittidly however would still remain as best of the rest so to say.

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Post by LOVERBOY Mon 25 Apr 2011, 7:28 pm

Gareth is certainly 'The Ice Man' Gb for obvious reasons,however it is a nickname that suits him well.
Totally unflappable in all situations,his progress and improvementover the past few seasons has been more than impressive.
He has to serve a long period of qualification after coming over from South Africa,and was about 25 before he got a chance in County Cricket.
He played for Radlett and was spotted by former Middlesex coach John Emburey and came on his recommendation.
He's certainly not to high at number six in the order and worth his place for his batting alone,he is the fastest scorer in the side but his bowling is an added bonus,quicker than he looks with an economical action and the ability to move it away from the right-handers,he forms an integral part of our attack,Injury in the second half of last season prevented him bowling but now fully recovered.
Two match winning performances in successive days are indication of his worth.
A fine fielder he fulfills all the requirements of a genuine all-rounder and is the first name on the team sheet in all forms of competition.
But doubtless you'll be able to judge for yourself this week when hopefully he'll play a full part in our next championship win.

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Apr 2011, 7:32 pm

berg will not get anywhere near the england sides.

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Post by LOVERBOY Mon 25 Apr 2011, 7:38 pm

cricketfan90 wrote:berg will not get anywhere near the england sides.

From one who's obviously never seen him play,I'll ignore that ill informed comment 🤦

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Apr 2011, 7:38 pm

i have seen him play i just dont think he will ever play for england!!!!

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Post by guildfordbat Mon 25 Apr 2011, 7:49 pm

Thanks, Lover. I do indeed look forward to judging for myself on Wednesday - spent all this morning down the Woking salt mines so I can get along then!

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Mon 25 Apr 2011, 8:26 pm

Looks like a contest between the two mighty Gareths - Berg and Batty Very Happy Hopefully it won't be stopped in round 1 boxing

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Post by sonic_boom10 Mon 25 Apr 2011, 9:02 pm

James Taylor is a shoe in for England down the line. Love watching this kid bat and he has that X Factor to boot.

He's head and shoulders above anyone else his age in England.

Throw in he has already scored 3 First Class double hundreds, the kid just has an appetite for big runs.

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Post by Liam_Main Mon 25 Apr 2011, 11:37 pm

If Gareth Berg gets into the England side i'll run around my street naked.Hes just a bits and piece cricketer.If anyone has a chance of getting into the one-day side it will be Dawid Malan hes a very talented cricketer.
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Post by hodge Tue 26 Apr 2011, 12:35 am

Liam_Main4 wrote:If Gareth Berg gets into the England side i'll run around my street naked.Hes just a bits and piece cricketer.If anyone has a chance of getting into the one-day side it will be Dawid Malan hes a very talented cricketer.

we'll hold you to that Wink

who expected Darren Pattinsen (or however you spell it) to get a test cap?

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Post by Liam_Main Tue 26 Apr 2011, 12:48 am

haha Wink and yeah but where would someone like Berg fit in the one day squad? Pietersen and Strauss then batting down to 6,Prior at 7 and the bowlers at 8.As iv'e said hes a bits and piece cricketer.Hes not good enough to bat in the top 6 and with the bowlers England have hes not going to fit in really anywhere.Prior isn't gonna get moved to 6 as he's the finisher of the innings.With the likes of Hildreth,Taylor,Woakes emerging do you think he stands a chance of even getting into the squad?
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Post by hodge Tue 26 Apr 2011, 12:51 am

with a **** load of injuries laughing

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Post by Liam_Main Tue 26 Apr 2011, 12:54 am

If the whole squad gets a virus hehe laughing
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Post by hodge Tue 26 Apr 2011, 1:06 am

Spurs V2

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Post by Liam_Main Tue 26 Apr 2011, 1:25 am

yeah lol
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Post by LOVERBOY Tue 26 Apr 2011, 1:18 pm

Whilst the likes of Wright and Yardy are considered good enough to represent England,then why should not a far better cricketer like Berg not do so.
Brought up in South Africa he's a tough player with all the attributes of his countryman who have made it through the system to play for England.
Just take a look at Berg's stats.and you'll see how they measure up.
Dawid Malan is indeed possessed of much talent,but has not learned or progressed as much as has been hoped,inconsistent, with the bat,expensive bowler,he's way down the pecking order,probably more suited to the longer game,

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Post by Liam_Main Tue 26 Apr 2011, 2:03 pm

Must remember Malans only 23 consistency will come as age goes on.I would say hes more suited too the one day side hes already made a twenty 20 century.
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Post by LOVERBOY Tue 26 Apr 2011, 3:37 pm

I know how old he is and how long he's been playing and he still averages barely over 19 in 40 or 50 over cricket,hardly likely to get him into an Engfland side in the near future.
The 20'20 100 was a spectacular effort admittedly,but he's never ever approached that sort of form since.

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