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Post by eirebilly Sun 19 Aug 2012, 1:47 pm

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Yeah, the fielding certainly has left alot to be desired. Still the chances are being created and things must surely stick soon.
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:21 pm

Biltong wrote:
Mad for Chelsea wrote:and now a pretty ordinary bit of fielding by Morkel at mid-off, though it was a well-struck drive by Bairstow.

Wheels coming off for SA?
Wishful thinking MAD.

Of course, it's what us English do best really, you should have seen us in the 90s, partnerships exceding ten runs were wildly cheered. Days where the opposition finished on 300-3 were considered a success, and getting past the follow-on was the greatest feeling in the world Very Happy

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Post by VTR Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:22 pm

Duty281 wrote:Misfield there. See No.1 is a curse, all your ability gets diminished because of it. South Africa have only got hand on the mace, and the wheels are coming off.


Laugh Maybe that's why we called up Frodo - to see if The Ring could counteract it!

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Post by eirebilly Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:22 pm

Still too early to be taking risks but England are still very much in this Very Happy


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Post by Biltong Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:22 pm

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Post by Duty281 Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:24 pm

If you're English and you know it, whistle along:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbsuAbTTsV8

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Post by alfie Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:24 pm

Sir Ian has just given the statistic I was too lazy to research ...Trott involved now in seven run outs..and the partner tends to be the victim Smile

Fits in with the fact that he is a player who tends to get very wrapped up in his own little cocoon when batting ...good and bad in that of course , and he is nonetheless a vital player.

But probably wiser for his partners to be absolutely sure they are both on the same page when contemplating potentially risky runs...

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:24 pm

Bairstow plays one with soft hands and th edge drops short of the slips. Even better, it bounces between them and runs away for four. 271 more to win Very Happy

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Post by Mike Selig Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:26 pm

India is a tough place to go and win. India's batting may not be anything like what it was a couple of years back, but Tendulkar's still in good form, and at home will be looking to pay England back for not giving him the fairytale send off he wanted. Shewag is formidable at home when the ball doesn't swing so much and he can hit through the line with impunity. Gambhir's problems against the lifting ball are also negated.

Their spinners are also far more effective at home. Ashwin doesn't get through his action properly, which means he doesn't get a lot out of pitches outside the subcontinent, but on a dry turner he is a different proposition. Given how England managed to collapse to the incredibly average Herath, it will be a struggle.

Not saying India will definitely win, but they start as favourites for me.

Aus-SA will be intriguing: it's not long ago that Aus drew in South Africa, despite being seemingly all over the shop. They are a better side now (so are South Africa on this series's evidence) and I think it will be a fascinating battle.

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Post by eirebilly Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:27 pm

Bairstow still has to be watchfull here...
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Post by Mike Selig Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:28 pm

That's a beautiful straight drive from Bairstow. Ponting-esque.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:28 pm

ok so we got to my 75 target on around 30 overs- we need to get 4.5 an over for the next 50 or so overs!

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:28 pm

Duty281 wrote:If you're English and you know it, whistle along:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbsuAbTTsV8

brings back fond memories of watching a horse dancing Very Happy

SA have bowled a much fuller length to Bairstow so far in this innings, but that's a gorgeous straight drive for four more.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:28 pm

The ginger ninga is on target!!!!!

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Post by VTR Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:32 pm

2 good things to come out of this Test:

Bairstow has played really well. That 95 is the best innings any of the pretenders to the middle order slot have played in a Test match. Well ahead of Bops/Frodo/Mogs now.

Finn has bowled well and appears to learn fast. Needs a run in the side now and I think he'll be as good as Morkel in a couple of years time.

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Post by EnglishReign Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:35 pm

So what's our best starting XI?

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Post by eirebilly Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:35 pm

I wonder if Strauss has given Baistow a free reign here and told him to just give it a go for the win? Could be a good move but could also spell big problems. Either way, i am glad he is giving it a go Very Happy
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:36 pm

SA review an LBW shout against Bairstow, but suspect this will be "umpire's call" at best on whether it's hitting leg stump. Yep, just clipping leg, so we stick with Taufel's decision.

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Post by Duty281 Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:37 pm

SA lose their first review, England well and truly have them on the ropes.

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Post by Mike Selig Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:37 pm

Close, but always enough doubt on whether down leg for me.

Bairstow is playing a bit of a counter-attack now.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:38 pm

Bairstow batting quite beautifully here, a short-arm pull for four the highlight as he takes 8 from Morkel's latest over. 87-4


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Post by Mad for Chelsea Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:40 pm

Tahir into the attack. With Bairstow playing his shots it's a good move by Smith...

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Post by Duty281 Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:40 pm

Bairstow goes aerial, that's another boundary. 92/4.

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Post by eirebilly Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:40 pm

Please no more wickets before lunch. I like what Bairstow is doing but i get nervous Very Happy
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Post by alfie Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:40 pm

Actually give England a decent chance in India , as long as they don't turn over selection to a vote of 606v2 contributors Smile

India are going to be rebuilding , and if they don't get heir new selections right first time there might well be some weaknesses for England to exploit. Wonder what the pitches will be like ? You'd expect the archetypal Indian dry turners , but they may want to have a bob each way given they have a couple of promising quicks and the spin department isn't quite in the Bedi/Prasanna/ Chandra class at present.

If SA play like this in Australia I reckon they'll win , but will they be able to get it so perfectly together again ? Still have doubts on the Australian batting , but it will be an interesting series for sure.

One of the good things about having no dominant side around at present - all series hold a lot of interest.

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Post by Duty281 Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:40 pm

Another boundary, 50 partnership off of just 52 balls. clap

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Post by eirebilly Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:41 pm

50 partnership from 52 balls Shocked
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Post by EnglishReign Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:41 pm

We'll get 120 by lunch, another 150 by tea. Finish the job this eve, easy.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:41 pm

Trott is the perfect anchor for this.

Bairstow still in!!, prior, swan and broad to come!!

come on england..

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Post by Fists of Fury Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:41 pm

Go on Jonny son!

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Post by Mike Selig Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:42 pm

I don't think Bairstow rates Tahir much.

This is fine, but don't do anything outrageous. So far it's been positive, but all the balls he's hit have been there to be hit.

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Post by Duty281 Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:43 pm

Trott opens the face, 4 more, 100 up for England. Easy, easy, easy!

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:44 pm

Mike Selig wrote:I don't think Bairstow rates Tahir much.

This is fine, but don't do anything outrageous. So far it's been positive, but all the balls he's hit have been there to be hit.

well to be fair he's whacked a full half volley back over his head and swept a couple of balls which were full and legside. Perfectly decent shot selection, just playing with an aggressive mindset.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:44 pm

100 up!!

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Post by Mike Selig Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:44 pm

Trott playing a good supporting role. It's still a long long way off, but another 50 or 60 from these two and SA will begin to get a bit worried. More so if Tahir really doesn't get a grip, because asking your seamers to do all the work is a lot.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:46 pm

much better running from Bairstow there, calls "push" as he hits it and then a loud and early call of "NO!"

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Post by Mike Selig Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:47 pm

Mad for Chelsea wrote:
Mike Selig wrote:I don't think Bairstow rates Tahir much.

This is fine, but don't do anything outrageous. So far it's been positive, but all the balls he's hit have been there to be hit.

well to be fair he's whacked a full half volley back over his head and swept a couple of balls which were full and legside. Perfectly decent shot selection, just playing with an aggressive mindset.

Absolutely. So far. Just hope he doesn't get carried away.

Tahir round the wicket now. It is basically a free hit into the leg-side if you get over the top.

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Post by eirebilly Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:48 pm

These two have turned the run rate on its head. Another 10 overs like this and SA will get worried.
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Post by Duty281 Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:49 pm

5 easy singles off that over, 109/4.

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Post by EnglishReign Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:50 pm

Jesus, Bairstow 41 off 29 balls.

Trott with 7 more off 120.


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Post by alfie Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:51 pm

I expected Smith to go for that review ...not as if they are likely to have desperate need of a review to save the match later , and if it had come off would have eased their task .
But it was a bit unlikely really and I can't help feeling these tactical reviews are somewhat at odds with the spirit of the drs .
Which is why I can't go along with the seemingly reasonable suggestion that teams should not lose a referall for "umpires call" cases. It would encourage too many of those.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:52 pm

England back to 11/1 - you could get 50 at one point today!!

Trotts gets lucky- England will need that as well as top play!!!

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Post by Duty281 Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:53 pm

Last 10 overs - 63/0.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:54 pm

Bairstow with a poor shot there, whoosh outside off and misses.

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Post by Duty281 Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:55 pm

50 for Trott. clap Hang in there, hang in there for another few hours.

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Post by eirebilly Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:55 pm

50 to Trott clap
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Post by alfie Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:56 pm

Not going to get carried away and suggest that a miracle is on the cards. But you certainly can't complain about the entertainment on offer this morning...

Fifty Trott clap

Needs another hundred to make up for the run out , mind Smile

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Post by Mike Selig Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:56 pm

Good 50 from Trott, you suspect he needs at least to double that. However given how badly he was playing this morning, and how involved he was in Taylor's run-out this has been a fine effort of concentration.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 20 Aug 2012, 12:59 pm



All Believe. We can do it!

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Post by Duty281 Mon 20 Aug 2012, 1:01 pm

104/2 in that session, still 226 runs to get. At least we're fighting.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 20 Aug 2012, 1:02 pm

Thats all i wanted- a fight! going for the win..

I am happy..

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