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Post by crazy_dave23 Tue 21 Aug 2012, 10:14 pm

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606V2 Keeper League 2012 – NFL.com Fantasy Football League Homepage
http://606v2k.league.fantasy.nfl.com (ID 1016967)

606V2 West 2012 League
http://606v2W.league.fantasy.nfl.com (ID 346169)
https://www.606v2.com/t33655-606v2-west-2012-nflcom-fantasy-football-homepage (2012 West League Thread)
https://www.606v2.com/t13037-606v2-west-2011-nflcom-fantasy-football-homepage (2011 West League Thread)

606V2 East 2012 League
http://606v2E.league.fantasy.nfl.com (ID 384548)
https://www.606v2.com/t34054-606v2-east-2012-nflcom-fantasy-football-homepage (2012 East League Thread)
https://www.606v2.com/t13121-606v2-east-nflcom-fantasy-football-homepage (2011 East League Thread)

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2012 Playoffs

Final
Sri Lanka Rams (Barney92) 127.88 vs 93.70 Prestige Worldwide (RDuncan8)


3rd Place Game
Corn on the Schaub (crazy_dave23) 149.56 vs 87.24 They Put a hole in the roof (Forward Pass)

Semi Finals
Sri Lanka Rams (Barney92) 147.54 vs 67.46 They Put a hole in the roof (Forward Pass)
Corn on the Schaub (crazy_dave23) 91.50 vs 102.98 Prestige Worldwide (RDuncan8)

Consolation Playoffs
5th Place Game
BamBam’s Warriors (bambamwillis) 110.16 vs 85.08 Thunder and Lightning (thunder and lightning)

7th Place Game
Memphis Hound Dogs (Mikeygnfl) 93.60 vs 90.32 Enter RG3 (number-25)

Semi Finals
Memphis Hound Dogs (Mikeygnfl) 76.24 vs 77.32 Thunder and Lightning (thunder and lightning)
BamBam’s Warriors (bambamwillis) 97.36 vs 47.70 Enter RG3 (number-25)

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2012 Standings

See Spoiler Below for Final League Standings:
Spoiler:
Division 1:
11-3-0 (LWWWWWWLWWLWWW) Corn on the Schaub: crazy_dave23
7-7-0 (WLWWWWLLLLWLWL) Memphis Hound Dogs: mikeygnfl
4-10-0 (LWLLLLLLWWLLLW) The Diddley Poos: GB1919
2-12-0 (LLLLLLWLLLLWLL) Flynn it to win it: TM Moot (previously owned by cherriesfan)

Division 2:
13-1-0 (WWLWWWWWWWWWWW) Sri Lanka Rams: Barney92
7-7-0 (WWWLLLWLWLWLWL) They Put a hole in the roof: Forward Pass
7-7-0 (WLWLLLWWWLLWLW) Enter RG3: number-25
7-7-0 (WLLWWWLWLWWLLL) BamBam’s Warriors: bambamwillis

Division 3:
8-6-0 (LLLWWWWLLWWWLW) Prestige Worldwide: RDuncan8
7-7-0 (LWWWLWLWLLLLWW) Thunder and Lightning: thunder and lightning
6-8-0 (LWWLWLLWWWLLLL) Flying High: Dominic Dicoco
5-9-0 (WLLLLLLWLLWWWL) Second Hand Secondary: Take it to the house
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Keeper Rules

- 3 players per year max.
- Can keep players twice (so three years total per guy) before forcible release.
- Players take the value of there draft round in the first redraft.
- Players move up in value by 5 rounds for the second redraft, or as high as they can go otherwise.
- If you end up with stacked picks (multiple players as keepers who count as the same round) they build up backward. e.g. if my keepers are draft picks 3, 4 and 5 I would loose draft picks 3, 4 and 5 in the first redraft and 1, 2 and 3 in the second as each player would be upgraded to an effective 1st rounder by the 5 round rule and therefore stack up.
- Undrafted players are valued at round 10 for the first redraft.
- Traded players initially count as there drafted position with the +5 rule in effect for all subsequent years.
- Years of eligibility are team specific, based on the round value of the player when traded to you. e.g. if a player is drafted in round 12 and is kept by another team for one season they will be valued as a round 7 pick when traded in year two due to the +5 rule.
- Abuse of the above rule by trading away a player over the keeper period only to get them back afterward will invalidate the resetting of two year eligibility.
- Once a player has no eligibility left on a given team they will count as a 1st rounder if traded away to somebody else and retained

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League History

Awards
2012 Champion: Sri Lanka Rams: Barney92 (13-1-0) + (2-0-0)
2012 2nd Place: Prestige Worldwide: RDuncan8 (8-6-0) + (1-1-0)
2012 3rd Place: Corn on the Schaub: crazy_dave23 (11-3-0) + (1-1-0)
2012 Regular Season Champion: Sri Lanka Rams: Barney92 (13-1-0)
2012 Highest Scoring Team: Corn on the Schaub: crazy_dave23 (1459.68)
2012 Highest Scoring Week: Corn on the Schaub: crazy_dave23 (Week 16, 149.56)

Name Changes
None

Owner Changes
Flynn it to Win It (2012 Draft thru Week 12): cherriesfan ---> Flynn it to Win it (2012 Week 13 onward): TM Moot

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2012 Draft Info

The 2012 draft took place on Sunday 2nd September 2012 at 8:30pm BST, with the 1st round order selected at random and then the snake format doing the rest.

See spoiler below for First Round Picks:
Spoiler:

1. Arian Foster – Thunder and Lightning
2. Aaron Rodgers – Enter RG3
3. Tom Brady – They put a hole in the roof
4. Ray Rice – Corn on the Schaub
5. LeSean McCoy – Prestige Worldwide
6. Drew Brees – Flynn it to win it
7. Calvin Johnson – Flying High
8. Chris Johnson – Second Hand Secondary
9. Cam Newton – Memphis Hound Dogs
10. Matthew Stafford – Sri Lanka Rams
11. Matt Forte – The Diddley Poos
12. Darren McFadden – BamBam’s Warriors
Summaries of the full draft and the first three picks per team will follow below.

2013 Draft Order
The 2013 Draft Order depends on the results of the 2012 season and resulting Championship Playoffs. The order for round 1 is as follows.
1. Flynn it to win it - TM Moot (previously owned by cherriesfan)
2. The Diddley Poos - GB1919
3. Second Hand Secondary - Take it to the house
4. Flying High - Dominic Dicoco
5. Thunder and Lightning - thunder and lightning
6. Enter RG3 - number-25
7. BamBam’s Warriors - bambamwillis
8. Memphis Hound Dogs - mikeygnfl
9. They Put a hole in the roof - Forward Pass
10. Corn on the Schaub - crazy_dave23
11. Prestige Worldwide - RDuncan8
12. Sri Lanka Rams - Barney92

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2012 Draft Analysis

See Spoiler Below for Draft Analysis:
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Thunder and Lightning - First Three Picks: – A. Foster (RB), A. Johnson (WR), Greg Jennings (WR).
One of two inactive teams in the draft, however the roster has fantastic potential. Tony Romo in round 4 is a bargain as he often goes in the high twenties, let alone 48. In fact no QB was taken in round 2 or 3 having had five go in the first round. His pass catchers are pretty great, certainly if Andre Johnson can stay healthy and Demaryius Thomas beats out Eric Decker as the top dog in Peyton Manning’s route tree. Running back is a potential weakness, but this is with the obvious caveat of having top overall selection Arian Foster. Jonathan Stewart is stranded in an unpredictable timeshare, Felix Jones is a number two following up a bad camp performance and Ronnie Brown is only the short term starter in San Diego whilst Matthews is out. By being inactive he got the top kicker in David Akers, plus an early selection of the Detroit defence who were clearly overdrafted.

Enter RG3 - First Three Picks: – A. Rodgers (QB), A. Peterson (RB), R. Matthews (RB).
Draftday nightmares for Number-25 put a dampener on the draft process as he was having plenty of issues selecting players via Internet Explorer (Go Chrome!). Aside from possessing two defences due to the above issues I think the roster is relatively good. As it’s a keeper league the top three selections are very strong. Rodgers is an obvious choice; I certainly would have taken him in a Keeper league at number 1 or 2. Adrian Peterson is damaged goods right now, but there is no reason to believe he won’t be a beast and is great value at a second round keeper. Similarly Ryan Matthews is a little banged up but has great potential for this season and the next few. The weakest position is probably wide receiver because Kenny Britt looses value due to him being a total plank. Denarius Moore at round 10 could breakout but is unlikely to become a keeper so his impact may be limited. Stevan Ridley is overdrafted at number 71 as was the Defence and Janikowski in the mid rounds though this largely relates to the techy issues. Jake Locker is a breakout candidate, but will likely never see the field barring Rodgers’ bye.

They Put a hole in the roof - First Three Picks: – T. Brady (QB), R. White (WR), H. Nicks (WR).
A well balanced team that results from four positions being drafted in the first five picks. Tom Brady will anchor the team for the full three year period and whilst Roddy White looses out on targets due to Julio Jones he is still easily worth a second rounder based on previous form. I prefer Hakeem Nicks to Victor Cruz who I feel may regress a lot versus last year, so I’m glad to see him go earlier in this draft. As mentioned on the West thread I also feel Hernandez may be the better TE to own out of New England this year so that rates as a solid forth rounder. Jason Witten is a fab backup tight end and may see time at the flex as a result of it. Weakness comes at running back, a natural result of not getting one until round 5. BenJarvus Green Ellis should produce okay, and if in doubt he is handcuffed with Bernard Scott. I like Mikel Leshoure in round 10 as a soon to be starter in Detroit, however Beanie Wells is moving in the opposite direction and Mark Ingram and DeAngelo Williams are stuck in messy timeshares. Got the Packers defence by selecting in round 13 and not 14 and they should generate a good amount of points.

Corn on the Schaub - First Three Picks: R. Rice (RB), M. Jones-Drew (RB), W. Welker (WR).
I’ll be honest, I love a lot of my draft. You can basically chalk in Ray Rice and Maurice Jones-Drew as my keepers for the next two years and that represents a dominant pair. Now Pocket Hercules has some well documented issues this season, but I’ve handcuffed him with Rashard Jennings who will become waiver wire fodder once MJD gets back on track. Wes Welker is a top receiver and whilst Dez Bryant still flatters to deceive I’m always happy to throw a forth rounder at him. Matt Ryan is poised to break out this year having finished fantastically last year in the regular season, though I had to hesitate when choosing him over Phillip Rivers whose interceptions and questionable receivers put me off in a keeper. My other receivers are alright, certainly Reggie Wayne is the only proven target for Andrew Luck and we saw what that did for Steve Smith with Cam Newton. I like Heyward-Bey to breakout from the muddy Raiders receiving corps and Jon Baldwin of the Chiefs could get a fair few targets. Got stung by TEs and couldn’t get one until round 10 and I have some regret over that.

Prestige Worldwide - First Three Picks: – L. McCoy (RB), J. Graham (TE), B. Marshall (WR).
Potentially my favourite one year line up, but I’m not as sold on it long term. LeSean McCoy, Frank Gore and Willis McGahee are a strong running back group for year one, but I’m not sure you would keep anyone outside of the Eagles back. Additionally RDuncan8 has Rashard Mendenhall who appears to be progressing better than expected from his injury – great value at a twelfth round tariff. Jay Cutler and Ben Roethlisberger offer good variety at QB, but in one sense they are relatively evenly matched and may present a weekly dilemma which often leads to fantasy regret! Speaking of Cutler, I love Brandom Marshall this year now that he is back with the Vanderbilt QB and him plus Marques Colston who benefits from the departure of Robert Meachem should be a good starting pair. Jimmy Graham is my top TE for the year and good value at number 20.

Flynn it to win it - First Three Picks: – D. Brees (QB), L. Fitzgerald (WR), F. Jackson (RB).
As per the 606v2 West draft Cherries was inactive, however I think he will be more pleased with the outcome of this draft. Drew Brees solidifies the QB position for the three years and despite the issues in the desert Larry Fitzgerald is a top receiver who always produces points. His other receivers are alright, namely Mike Wallace and Miles Austin though I don’t hold out much hope for Michael Crabtree or Santana Moss. Flacco could produce well this year as the Ravens appear a little more balanced, however he is clearly a one week player with Brees on the roster. Running back is again a little weak – it’s the nature of the position these days although the starters of Fred Jackson and Ahmad Bradshaw are more than serviceable. He’s landed the top defence in the 49ers (despite potential resentment as a Seahawk), though Dan Bailey is overdrafted as a kicker.

Flying High - First Three Picks: – C. Johnson (WR), T. Richardson (RB), S. Jackson (RB).
The questions for flying high once again reside at the running back spot. Trent Richardson will surely be a fabulous keeper as a potential feature back for seasons to come, however he comes with injuries before having even taken a snap. Steven Jackson is at the other end of the career spectrum, likely heading south as the years go on. He does however remain the top option in St Louis and certainly for this season will still produce strongly. Peyton Hillis is the third guy and he will get carries with Jamaal Charles recovering from an ACL, but 3 backs is simply not enough. Megatron is the receiver to have and when paired with Stevie Johnson creates a strong 1-2 punch. QB is strong with Matt Schaub providing decent backup to Phillip Rivers who I love as a QB, but still throws too many interceptions. Tight end Antonio Gates is primed to perform this year without Vincent Jackson in San Diego, but again he is on the downside of his career. Speaking of San Diego, I do rate Malcolm Flloyd and he should get some looks at the flex spot.

Second Hand Secondary - First Three Picks: – C. Johnson (RB), R. Gronkowski (TE), M. Turner (RB).
I believe Chris Johnson will be back to form this year after last year’s hold out induced CJ2K slump – in fact if McCoy hadn’t dropped to 6 in the West league I may have taken him over a QB. Michael Turner gets a lot of stick in fantasy circles but will still produce decent points this year despite the Falcons morphing into a prolific passing offence. Michael Bush could be a neat pick up for a flex spot, but don’t expect too much. In a shock turn of events I actually support the drafting of Rob Gronkowski as he “slipped” to number 17 and it’s a 12 team league, plus Kyle Rudolph is a longer term sleeper. Eli Manning is the main man at QB and in terms of receivers the team fields are series of diva receivers whose performance may fluctuate but as a group will provide solid weekly points. I still like Vincent Jackson, but not as much as last year and that is reflected in his 5th round status. In fact the sleeper pick here is Danny Amendola who I liked a lot in last year’s drafts before the injury bug hit.

Memphis Hound Dogs - First Three Picks: – C. Newton (QB), AJ Green (WR), D. Martin (RB).
Cam Newton is a solid sleeper pick, but you have to expect some drop off from last year, particularly in the all important rushing touchdowns which earn QBs extra points. I love Doug Martin as a keeper but I’ve never been a fan of Reggie Bush and I still wouldn’t have taken him 4th round - that is of course personal opinion as his performance last year merited it. Isaac Redman should be good for the first part of the season and maybe beyond whilst he gets increased snaps in light of Rashard Mendenhalls injury. His remaining backs consist of two of the guys in the 49er rotation, so there may well be some praying for a Frank Gore injury. Greg Olsen as the only tight end option is weak but I love the receiving corps. AJ Green is a star and a great keeper option, beyond that there are plenty of big sleepers but generally they are the sleepers I feel may pay off. I rank Eric Decker as the top WR in Denver, plus Torrey Smith is poised to benefit from a slightly more open Ravens passing game. He also got two solid rookie receivers in Justin Blackmon and Alshon Jeffrey who will get plenty of action right away. LeSean Jean is a super deep sleeper in Houston, but someone has to catch the passes in the slot.

Sri Lanka Rams - First Three Picks: – M. Stafford (QB), J. Jones (WR), S. Smith (WR).
There are some great aspects to the Sri Lanka Rams, but I wonder what the need to grab 3 QBs is, especially when your top guy is Matthew Stafford. I know he is an injury risk and the other guys, namely RGIII and Russell Wilson have great potential and should be fabulous trade bait if they pan out but I still wouldn’t be balancing my roster that way. As such I think the running backs are relatively weak, though you can’t blame that on the excess QB drafting because it was a lack of early RB selections that are to blame. I like Darren Sproles, but Cedric Benson is the number two and I see him more as a matchup based flex player as we know Green Bay will throw it more often than not. Ben Tate is similar, though in my view has more value than Benson as a weekly Flex back due to the tendency for Houston to run the ball with their great blocking. I’m not even going to comment on Alfred Morris as I have gone all Adam Rank and declared war on Shanahanagains… I’m not drafting one period. The wideouts however are what sets this team apart. Julio Jones is going to be amazing this year, Steve Smith is still basically the only guy in Carolina and Antonio Brown is poised for a big year now that we know the Steelers have placed their faith in him and not Mike Wallace.

The Diddley Poos - First Three Picks: – M. Forte (RB), J. Charles (RB), J. Nelson (WR).
I’m not a massive fan of Mike Vick, particularly in a keeper league as it’s a possibility he is let loose after this year due to his contract parameters, however a 62nd pick isn’t bad value at all given his ability. The key is for him to stay healthy as you don’t want to rely on Matt Cassel as anything more than a bye week replacement and a possible matchup based starter against Oakland’s corners for example. The main reason I like this team is the skill at running back. Jamaal Charles was a top selection in last years drafts and whilst he has been injured and it’s an ACL you can’t argue that he has the talent to be the focal point of the offence again this year. Charles is paired up with Matt Forte and also Ryan Williams who I’m pretty much certain will overhaul Beanie Wells sooner rather than later. He even has Taiwan Jones with smashing 14th round value to cover the seasonal Darren McFadden injury. The WRs are also strong with Percy Harvin and Jordy Nelson both good candidates for keeper status and Dwayne Bowe still dominating in Missouri. There are also a couple of sleeper wideouts, with Kendall Wright particularly intriguing from my perspective. Finally the tight ends, whilst unestablished, offer great potential with Coby Fleener likely seeing plenty of targets early in Indy due to his Stanford connection.

BamBam’s Warriors - First Three Picks: – D. McFadden (RB), D. Murray (RB), M. Lynch (RB).
BamBam was worried about his team being labelled as accident and emergency and I can see his point!. Darren McFadden should be a fantastic keeper as his talent is undoubted, however he never remains healthy and BamBam wasn’t able to snag Taiwan Jones as a handcuff. DeMarco Murray has worries too, but I like the guy and rate him quite highly. Getting Marshawn Lynch at number 36 in a draft containing Cherries shows two things – firstly great value, but also that he overdrafted the same player in the West league. Jacquizz Rodgers is a super sleeper and a dark horse for a keeper if things go south with Michael Turner. Peyton Manning is obviously a solid QB and decent value at sixth round value, however I think Andrew Luck was slightly over drafted for this season simply due to the keeper format where he could soon build up to become a star. Victor Cruz at the beginning of the fourth round is fabulous value and highlights more overdrafting in the West draft. I like Jeremy Maclin above other Eagles wideouts and Titus Young seems set for a decent year if he doesn’t throw it away off the field. Randall Cobb and Jared Cook are young up and comers, though only the latter will see the field regularly in fantasy. If it wasn’t for plenty of injury concerns I’d label in this roster in the top couple.


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Post by Barney92 Sun 16 Dec 2012, 5:03 pm

Projected scores in my game: 107.46 v 107.06. Come on the Rams.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 16 Dec 2012, 5:14 pm

Good luck Bambam.

Taken some risks today, Rudolph over Davis at TE and Moreno in the flex. Hope they come off
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 16 Dec 2012, 5:15 pm

Bugger wrong league Laugh
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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun 16 Dec 2012, 9:05 pm

Bad week for me... Rice doesn't deliver, Wayne gets less than a point whilst James Jones is sat on the bench (tbf DHB was my Dez Bryant backup plan, not him so I can't say I was close to making the switch).

Prestige Worldwide has scored solidly throughout.

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Post by Barney92 Sun 16 Dec 2012, 10:46 pm

Peterson, Morris, Jones and Rodgers all over 20 points. Nice timing lads.

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Post by crazy_dave23 Mon 17 Dec 2012, 10:49 pm

Well the Sri Lanka Rams put up the highest score in this league all season. In fact nobody in the West has ever scored 147+ over two seasons and the only team to have ever scored more in a 606v2 league appears to have been Rexy's Redskins (aka the Current RG3's Super Socks run by Number-25).
What a time to do it!

And in the other semi final, I have been stung by Prestige Worldwide. There is still hope but as my only hope I have Shonn Greene...

J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS

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Post by Forward Pass Tue 18 Dec 2012, 9:24 am

Well done Barney92 & RDuncan8 for reaching the final thumbsup

Unlucky crazy_dave at least your semi was close
My side didnt show up , but even then I would have been no match for for the mighty SriLankaRams
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Post by Barney92 Tue 18 Dec 2012, 10:38 am

Cheers forward. Hopefully my running backs can keep it up for one more week. Would've liked to avenge my defeat against RG3 but sadly I won't get the chance this year. Ah well. Best of luck RDuncan!!

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Post by RDuncan8 Tue 18 Dec 2012, 10:45 am

Looking at your lineup, it's going to be very tough for me to win. You never know in the playoffs though!

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Post by Number-25 Tue 18 Dec 2012, 11:26 am

crazy_dave23 wrote:Well the Sri Lanka Rams put up the highest score in this league all season. In fact nobody in the West has ever scored 147+ over two seasons and the only team to have ever scored more in a 606v2 league appears to have been Rexy's Redskins (aka the Current RG3's Super Socks run by Number-25).
What a time to do it!

And in the other semi final, I have been stung by Prestige Worldwide. There is still hope but as my only hope I have Shonn Greene...

J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS

Haha! Thanks very much for bringing this up Dave - I do recall my Rex Grossman led team from last year topped that 147 mark...... too bad it never came close to it again though!! It's a shame though, cos I can't actually remember who else was in that team! Was clearly a very good week for it though! Only thing I remember about that team is that I had a disappointing set of RBs and Vernon Davis was a massive disappointment at TE. Come to think of it, with Grossman at QB, a bad group of RBs and an underachieving TE, I've no idea how I got to 147 points that week! My Kicker must have had an awesome day Laugh

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Post by RDuncan8 Tue 18 Dec 2012, 11:42 am

http://606v2e.league.fantasy.nfl.com/league/384548/history/2011/teamgamecenter?teamId=12&week=10

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Post by Barney92 Sun 23 Dec 2012, 12:41 pm

A good start by Jones, wasn't expecting much from Scheffler. 16 points from 2 players. Not excellent but it's an early lead.

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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun 23 Dec 2012, 2:50 pm

Barney92 wrote:A good start by Jones, wasn't expecting much from Scheffler. 16 points from 2 players. Not excellent but it's an early lead.

Anything could happen, but i'd be happy enough with 16 from J.Jones and Scheffler... your real strength comes from the QB and RB... though realistically it comes from every position barring TE!

I was disappointed to see Matt Ryan's big day was reflected in a high high score for Roddy White in the battle for the final mention on the historical section of the league!

I also stumbled across this piece related to last weeks games...

A team of
QB: Eli Manning;
RB: Ray Rice, Doug Martin;
WR: Demaryius Thomas; Victor Cruz;
Flex: Jamaal Charles;
TE: Jimmy Graham;
K: Lawrence Tynes;
DST: 49ers;

would have been defeated by a team containing just Dennis Pitta... you could have started Brett Favre at QB, Barry Sanders and LT at running back etc... you only needed Dennis Pitta.
Its just a reminder that anything can happen!

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Post by Barney92 Sun 23 Dec 2012, 3:32 pm

Yeah I'm happy enough. TE has been a hopeful position all year for me, I suppose that's the sacrifice I made when I went after the other positions. I'll take any amount of points from them to be honest. When I saw 4 tds for Ryan I was hoping for a nice Jones hat-trick to get off to a flyer but 13 or so points is enough for me. Can't ask for much more than that. How many points did Pitta get? Must have been a fair few.

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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun 23 Dec 2012, 3:41 pm

last week it was a whopping 21 for Dennis Pitta (this is ESPN standard though - I presume anyway as that is where the article that mentioned the "team that couldn't beat Dennis Pitta" was found)

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Post by crazy_dave23 Mon 24 Dec 2012, 10:38 am

Well Done to Barney92 for the win...

Deserved it after almost nailing the unbeaten season... I did however post the highest weekly score of the year both here and the West when out of the running Sad

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Post by Barney92 Mon 24 Dec 2012, 11:33 am

Cheers Dave. I just saw your score there. Thankfully I wasn't playing you this week. It was an enjoyable season, only slightly marred by week 12's disappointment. Congrats on the highest score. I'm sure you'll have a good shot at that again next year with some of the players you could keep.

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Post by Forward Pass Mon 24 Dec 2012, 11:56 am

Well done Barney92 thumbsup
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Post by crazy_dave23 Mon 24 Dec 2012, 1:12 pm

Barney92 wrote:Cheers Dave. I just saw your score there. Thankfully I wasn't playing you this week. It was an enjoyable season, only slightly marred by week 12's disappointment. Congrats on the highest score. I'm sure you'll have a good shot at that again next year with some of the players you could keep.

Yeah, I know who two of my keepers will be... just debating the third!

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Post by BamBam Mon 24 Dec 2012, 1:21 pm

Well done Barney

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Post by Barney92 Mon 24 Dec 2012, 2:05 pm

Think I know all three of mine. Will be sad to see the others go but hopefully I'll be able to pick up one or two of them again. Cheers folks. Hope you are all having a nice Christmas.

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Post by crazy_dave23 Mon 24 Dec 2012, 2:10 pm

Barney92 wrote:Think I know all three of mine. Will be sad to see the others go but hopefully I'll be able to pick up one or two of them again. Cheers folks. Hope you are all having a nice Christmas.

Rodgers...
AP...
Julio Jones... maybe...

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Post by crazy_dave23 Mon 24 Dec 2012, 2:13 pm

crazy_dave23 wrote:Also... as per the league rules I think we agreed on, the order for draft picks 1-8 has been decided as follows

1: Flynn it to win it (TM Moot, previously owned by cherriesfan)
2: The Diddley Poos (GB1919)
3: Second Hand Secondary (Take it to the house)
4: Flying High (Dominic Dicoco)
5: Thunder and Lightning (thunder and lightning)
6: Enter RG3 (number-25)
7: BamBam’s Warriors (bambamwillis)
8: Memphis Hound Dogs (mikeygnfl)


The final four picks will depend on the results of the Championship playoffs, but not the consolation playoffs (unless you all want that to be the case!)

To confirm the end picks...
9: They Put a hole in the roof (Forward Pass)
10: Corn on the Schaub (crazy_dave23)
11: Prestige Worldwide (RDuncan8)
12: Sri Lanka Rams (Barney92)

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Post by Barney92 Mon 24 Dec 2012, 4:12 pm

Yeah definitely Rodgers and AP and almost definitely Jones. Also just wondering is it a snake draft? I apologise if this has already been asked.

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Post by Take it to the house Mon 24 Dec 2012, 7:06 pm

Rubbish season overall for me, but have two questions about keepers :
How long do we have to choose keepers? Does it stay active constantly?

Advice on keeping Eli? He's never been that good in fantasy but I'd assume most of the
good fantasy QBs will be kept?

Well done Barney, extremely well deserved victory!!

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Post by crazy_dave23 Tue 25 Dec 2012, 12:40 pm

Barney92 wrote:Yeah definitely Rodgers and AP and almost definitely Jones. Also just wondering is it a snake draft? I apologise if this has already been asked.

As per the draft this year; the picks in round 2 (and other even rounds) will be the reverse of the first round (and other odd rounds). Thus when selecting keepers those who performed "badly" get better value in releasing picks in odd rounds (because they will free slots that will be near the front) and people like yourself get much better value releasing picks in even round because, for example, your second round pick will be pick 13 whereas TM Moots will be number 24!

Take it to the house wrote:Rubbish season overall for me, but have two questions about keepers :
How long do we have to choose keepers? Does it stay active constantly?

Advice on keeping Eli? He's never been that good in fantasy but I'd assume most of the
good fantasy QBs will be kept?

Currently discussing Keeper Stuff with Forward Pass as we are the ones that can alter settings and i'm the one with a spreadsheet designed to calculate what each pick is worth (only for later years when it gets complicated - its very easy this year; their worth where they were drafted no matter who did the drafting and if you keep two player with the same round then one of them simply moves back a round etc. - see top of the thread).
Will not be soon, though you can start specifying them right away if you like. Will likely be after the real NFL draft so that FA has passed and you actually will know where your keeper is playing or if a draft pick has replaced them etc.

In terms of keepers - i'm not sure what people will end up doing. I would imagine with 3 keeper slots that a lot of the QBs will be kept. I think the best way to look at it is too see where a player was drafted this year and then see where they may go next year (e.g. Randall Cobb will be way higher than a 12th rounder next year) and pick out those who are great value BUT also keep your true studs regardless because you raise a very reasonable point - there may be very few good players from certain positions, notably QB, actually making it back to the re draft.

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Post by TM Moot Thu 27 Dec 2012, 12:55 pm

Congrats Barney, a worthy winner.. king

Hopefully I can make Flynn it to win it slighty more competitive next season. I'll study the Keeper rules, and hopefully will nab a few gems at the draft.

Cheers all, and happy new year.. thumbsup

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Post by crazy_dave23 Wed 29 May 2013, 7:12 pm

Just a heads up to say that the league has reset for the upcoming season as of today.

Please feel free to start setting your keepers for the upcoming season if you want... it should be a good early sign as to who is on the ball in this league and who could need replacing further down the line!

I had a chat with my co-manger Forward Pass quite some time ago, and I think all we decided was that the keeper deadline would have to be a decent few weeks before the draft so people had enough time to reasonably plan and do mocks based on who was taken and who wasn't.
Other than that we have no set deadline as of yet, but if you set them early you should still be able to change them if something comes up.

Please bear in mind the keeper rules listed in the OP. This year there are no limits, but there will be an impact for anyone who may keep players for multiple years.
If anything confuses then just ask and I will explain Smile

Next years 1st round draft list is given in the original post, based on reverse standings.

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Post by thunder and lightning Wed 29 May 2013, 11:35 pm

Anyone know where to find out what draft spot you give up for your keepers? I'd feel pretty silly keeping someone like Andre Johnson for a 2nd.

Edit: found last year's draft in the league history incase anyone else has this issue

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Post by Forward Pass Thu 30 May 2013, 1:47 pm

thunder and lightning wrote:Anyone know where to find out what draft spot you give up for your keepers? I'd feel pretty silly keeping someone like Andre Johnson for a 2nd.

Edit: found last year's draft in the league history incase anyone else has this issue

Yeah I had a look at my draft picks last night , took me a while to find it aswell

Can't make up my mind whether to play safe and go with my top 3 players or go for a bit more value with a later round pick
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Post by Pr4wn Thu 30 May 2013, 3:33 pm

I'd be interested in joining if a space opens up...

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Post by TM Moot Thu 30 May 2013, 3:59 pm

Looking forward to this...even with the bunch of duffers I inherited Very Happy

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Post by thunder and lightning Thu 30 May 2013, 4:04 pm

Forward Pass wrote:
thunder and lightning wrote:Anyone know where to find out what draft spot you give up for your keepers? I'd feel pretty silly keeping someone like Andre Johnson for a 2nd.

Edit: found last year's draft in the league history incase anyone else has this issue

Yeah I had a look at my draft picks last night , took me a while to find it aswell

Can't make up my mind whether to play safe and go with my top 3 players or go for a bit more value with a later round pick

My keeper options are awful, I'm honestly considering keeping only Demarius Thomas, other player are either too high price (first for Brady) or been replaced in the draft/offseason (Mikel Leshoure) oh well, at least my draft position is ok.

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Post by Forward Pass Thu 30 May 2013, 4:12 pm

Pr4wn wrote:I'd be interested in joining if a space opens up...
Hi Pr4wn
If anyone drops out we will let you know
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Post by GB1919 Fri 31 May 2013, 6:23 pm

Just had a first stab at my keepers. At the moment it looks like I'm keeping 2 QBs which is a bit frustrating but I can't resist holding on to Luck for a 7th rounder and Kaepernick for a 10th rounder. There's good trade bait in one of them.

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Post by Forward Pass Fri 31 May 2013, 10:25 pm

GB1919 wrote:Just had a first stab at my keepers. At the moment it looks like I'm keeping 2 QBs which is a bit frustrating but I can't resist holding on to Luck for a 7th rounder and Kaepernick for a 10th rounder. There's good trade bait in one of them.
You would pick 2 qb's in a normal draft
So a 7th & 10th round pick isn't bad at all ,
both are now sure to go in 1st or 2nd round this year in standard drafts
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Post by mikeygnfl Sat 01 Jun 2013, 2:32 am

I have had my three keepers ready since last year but that was without thinking Lamar Miller would get the nod as number one RB the Dolphins. That could make the decision a little more difficult.

I was also hoping that GB1919 would be letting either Luck or Kaepernick go. I'll have to have a look at what other QBs maybe available.
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Post by Take it to the house Sun 02 Jun 2013, 10:27 pm


[/quote]

My keeper options are awful, I'm honestly considering keeping only Demarius Thomas, other player are either too high price (first for Brady) or been replaced in the draft/offseason (Mikel Leshoure) oh well, at least my draft position is ok.[/quote]
Are you seriously considering not keeping Brady, because I assumed that everyone would keep the best Qbs as they're guaranteed points! Also I need to see what Qbs are left to decide whether to keep Eli

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Post by BamBam Sun 02 Jun 2013, 10:33 pm

Can we see who others are keeping prior to the draft?

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Post by Forward Pass Sun 02 Jun 2013, 11:03 pm

BamBam wrote:Can we see who others are keeping prior to the draft?
Yeah
Keepers will be set for late July or early Aug
Then will be put on this page
Draft probably be last Sunday in Aug
so everyone will know All keepers for 3 weeks or so
So everyone can do mocks if they want

Just sorting out final dates with crazy-dave
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Post by BamBam Sun 02 Jun 2013, 11:43 pm

I forgot I had picked up Chris Ivory in this league, must have had my forward thinking hat on that day!

Undrafted players being 10th rounders this year is still a bit high! Maybe round 14 is a better option :p

I'm picking 3 from Peyton, Lynch, Cobb, Forte and Ivory

Probably not too difficult, considering the value with a couple of those guys!

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Post by TM Moot Mon 03 Jun 2013, 9:40 am

Forward Pass wrote:
Draft probably be last Sunday in Aug
Just sorting out final dates with crazy-dave

FP, the last Sunday (24th) is the Bank Holiday w/e, might be better to do the draft on Sunday the 1st September perhaps?

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Post by BamBam Mon 03 Jun 2013, 9:53 am

Yeah I don't really want to be drafting on my birthday!

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Post by Barney92 Mon 03 Jun 2013, 2:03 pm

It kills me to do it but I might not keep Julio Jones. It's between him, Spiller and Morris for the 3rd slot.

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Post by BamBam Mon 03 Jun 2013, 2:06 pm

That is what is known as an embarrassment of riches.. So no sympathy from me!

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Post by thunder and lightning Mon 03 Jun 2013, 9:05 pm

Barney92 wrote:It kills me to do it but I might not keep Julio Jones. It's between him, Spiller and Morris for the 3rd slot.

That begs the question who are your two other keepers? Spiller and Morris would be extremely high up my list of top keepers due to where the went last year, combined with the probability for a massive RB rush in the early rounds. These players are at the very worst 3rd round picks this year in my opinion.


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Post by thunder and lightning Mon 03 Jun 2013, 9:07 pm

BamBam wrote:I forgot I had picked up Chris Ivory in this league, must have had my forward thinking hat on that day!

Undrafted players being 10th rounders this year is still a bit high! Maybe round 14 is a better option :p

I'm picking 3 from Peyton, Lynch, Cobb, Forte and Ivory

Probably not too difficult, considering the value with a couple of those guys!

Cobb is a must, Peyton too perhaps. Lynch is solid but you won't make value gains by keeping him, Forte - meh, Ivory could be boom or bust. I really wish I had those choices though!

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Post by crazy_dave23 Mon 03 Jun 2013, 9:42 pm

thunder and lightning wrote:
Barney92 wrote:It kills me to do it but I might not keep Julio Jones. It's between him, Spiller and Morris for the 3rd slot.

That begs the question who are your two other keepers? Spiller and Morris would be extremely high up my list of top keepers due to where the went last year, combined with the probability for a massive RB rush in the early rounds. These players are at the very worst 3rd round picks this year in my opinion.


Somebody traded him Rodgers and AP last year... I'd assume it is them!

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Post by crazy_dave23 Mon 03 Jun 2013, 9:43 pm

BamBam wrote:
Undrafted players being 10th rounders this year is still a bit high! Maybe round 14 is a better option :p

The logic is you deserve much more credit for drafting someone yourself and actually using a pick, as opposed to being low on the waiver wire and simply grabbing the hot name who has just had a breakout game or a skill position player who is replacing an injured stud every week until you get lucky.

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Post by crazy_dave23 Mon 03 Jun 2013, 9:46 pm

TM Moot wrote:
Forward Pass wrote:
Draft probably be last Sunday in Aug
Just sorting out final dates with crazy-dave

FP, the last Sunday (24th) is the Bank Holiday w/e, might be better to do the draft on Sunday the 1st September perhaps?

I wasn't keen on 1st Sep because it will be the standard draft day for the other leagues. I hadn't figured that the Sun 24th was the b/h.
Is the 18th too early or is the BH Monday better (won't be part way through someones long weekend)?

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