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Post by Duty281 Fri 31 Aug 2012, 12:09 pm

England can snatch back the No.1 ODI Ranking with victory today and level the series but that will be unlikely with all the negative off-the-field drama that is happening. On the other hand, South Africa will be looking to cement their No.1 ODI ranking and go 2-0 up in the series. Should be a cracker of a game then.

England 1 Alastair Cook (capt), 2 Ian Bell, 3 Jonathan Trott, 4 Ravi Bopara, 5 Eoin Morgan, 6 Craig Kieswetter (wk), 7 Samit Patel, 8 James Tredwell, 9 Jade Dernbach, 10 James Anderson, 11 Steve Finn.

South Africa 1 Graeme Smith, 2 Hashim Amla, 3 JP Duminy, 4 Dean Elgar, 5 AB de Villiers (capt, wk), 6 Faf du Plessis, 7 Wayne Parnell, 8 Robin Peterson, 9 Dale Steyn, 10 Morne Morkel, 11 Lonwabo Tsotsobe.


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Post by Duty281 Fri 31 Aug 2012, 12:36 pm

South Africa have won the toss and will bat.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 31 Aug 2012, 12:41 pm

Team news: Steyn in for McLaren for the Saffers. For England, Tredwell and Dernbach in for Swann and Bresnan.

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Post by Pal Joey Fri 31 Aug 2012, 12:44 pm

Would have liked to have seen Woakes selected. I saw him a few years ago at the SCG and he had a very smooth action. Quite quick too.

Best of luck to both teams. Ale

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 12:44 pm

no Woakes still then? A bit odd that he was preferred for the first ODI, but has now slipped behind Dernbach... Long tail for England today, means the batsmen are going to have to perform. Cook lost his third toss in a row, not a great start Sad

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Post by VTR Fri 31 Aug 2012, 12:48 pm

Need Anderson and Finn to get early wickets. Didn't happen in the Test series, maybe today is the day? Both teams look pretty weak from number 6 down, SA can be put under pressure.

Come on England, 2 new balls, let's get them in some early trouble 50-3 or something like that.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:03 pm

Let's get Amla out early! Come on England!

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:03 pm

all about early wickets for England here, SA have a rather long tail. Anderson with a decent first over, but this looks a cracking pitch.

here's Finny Very Happy

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:08 pm

Rubbish idea to pick Dernbach over Woakes. Woakes is not only a better bowler, but he also adds batting depth, whereas our tail looks rather long right now.

Having said that, the Saffers haven't got much batting after their top 6. Early inroads would give us a great chance, but you just know that these two will reach at least 80-0.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:10 pm

SA's ability to miss the ball rather than nick it is so frustrating Very Happy

Anderson starting to find some swing here.

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Post by VTR Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:11 pm

Fists of Fury wrote: Early inroads would give us a great chance, but you just know that these two will reach at least 80-0.

Sadly, despite my earlier comment this is what I expect to happen. We just can't take early wickets vs. the Saffers - in any form of the game!

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:12 pm

Anderson over-pitches and is driven back down the ground for four. This looks an absolute belter of a pitch I must say, 280 needed at least for SA.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:16 pm

I don't always (and in fact less and less often) agree with Michael Holding, but I think he's right about getting an extra man into the leg side for Smith.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:26 pm

better from Finn, and better field set by Cook with the man at square leg already saving a few runs.

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:36 pm

Usual garbage from England, then. Well, not garbage, but totally unthreatening. All too easy for South Africa. New Zealand's quicks would pose them more problems than this.

Wake me up when it's over.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:38 pm

Amla batting really well. 50 up already, but I think SA need a big score here looking at this pitch.

GONE! Rush of blood for Smith, charges Anderson, looks like an off-cutter and he's bowled!

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Post by Fists of Fury Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:38 pm

YES! Mockers have worked, and they haven't been too successful during this tour.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:39 pm

Elgar in next, wasn't entirely convincing on debut for me, so England need to put some pressure on...

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Post by VTR Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:40 pm

We'll be fine. Whatever Amla scores, I'm sure Bopara will double it!

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Post by Duty281 Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:42 pm

Let's hope 1 wicket will bring 2.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:46 pm

Bopara into the attack, would have expected Patel, interesting.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:47 pm

VTR wrote:We'll be fine. Whatever Amla scores, I'm sure Bopara will double it!

You mean by gifting him cheap boundaries? Whistle

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:49 pm

it's a good start from Bops too as he keeps things quiet before sneaking one past Elgar's outside edge with the last ball of the over. 3 from it

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Post by VTR Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:51 pm

Mad for Chelsea wrote:it's a good start from Bops too as he keeps things quiet before sneaking one past Elgar's outside edge with the last ball of the over. 3 from it

The boy is on fire as predicted. Its a blue moon today isn't it? And they do say "Bopara has a good game once in a blue moon" - its all making sense!

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:53 pm

nice over from Dernbach too, Amla won't have seen much of his slower ball and indeed doesn't know much about that last one. 2 from the over, England regaining a bit of control outside the PP.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:54 pm

Solid couple of overs from Bopara and Dernbach, let's hope we can keep it up.

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Post by VTR Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:56 pm

Mad for Chelsea wrote:Amla won't have seen much of his slower ball and indeed doesn't know much about that last one. .

True, but as it is utilised roughly every other delivery I'm sure he'll soon be picking it and smashing it into the stands like most decent batsmen manage.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 1:56 pm

another good over from Bops, Amla seems to not enjoy the pace off the ball so much, certainly scoring less from Bops and Dernbach's slower ball foxed him a bit too. Here's Tredders Very Happy

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:00 pm

Elgar clearly deciding the sweep shot is going to be his scoring option against Tredwell. Decent start for the off-spinner though...

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:03 pm

England with a decent 5 over spell there, just 15 runs coming. Bowling PP taken, Finn back into the attack.

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Post by liverbnz Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:05 pm

Anyone else feeling indifferent to this ODi series? It's the 3rd of the summer and we really should've ended with the Test series - with 5 Tests.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:08 pm

Much better over there from Finn, a wicket or two now will see England have a real advantage.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:09 pm

just looking at Elgar, I wonder if he has the variety of shot for ODIs. Looks to very much favour the third man-point sort of region, and I feel England will be able to limit his scoring options pretty well.

Dernbach bowls Amla!

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Post by liverbnz Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:10 pm

VTR wrote:
Mad for Chelsea wrote:Amla won't have seen much of his slower ball and indeed doesn't know much about that last one. .

True, but as it is utilised roughly every other delivery I'm sure he'll soon be picking it and smashing it into the stands like most decent batsmen manage.

Well played Smile

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Post by Duty281 Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:10 pm

And Dernbach has got Amla! Luck goes England's way there.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:17 pm

England have been a lot sharper in the field today: Bell pulled off a great stop off Smith earlier and Morgan has made another there off a rasping square drive from Elgar.

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Post by alfie Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:23 pm

Fists of Fury wrote:

Having said that, the Saffers haven't got much batting after their top 6. Early inroads would give us a great chance, but you just know that these two will reach at least 80-0.

Well not too far out , Fists : 80/2. Smile

Brisk enough start though and you fancy they'll make a pretty decent total on this good pitch. Probably a good pitch to chase on too , but England will need a Cook or a Trott to bat long...don't like the look of that tail...

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:28 pm

good PP for England, just 21 runs from it, and the absolutely huge wicket of Amla.

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Post by VTR Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:35 pm

liverbnz wrote:
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Mad for Chelsea wrote:Amla won't have seen much of his slower ball and indeed doesn't know much about that last one. .

True, but as it is utilised roughly every other delivery I'm sure he'll soon be picking it and smashing it into the stands like most decent batsmen manage.

Well played Smile

This is going alright today Very Happy

Okay next one: Tredwell in for Swann - are they serious, he looks about 50! And why replace Swann with a medium pacer because he definitely doesn't turn it. The kind of player De Villiers can hit for 20 runs an over whenever he wants

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Post by alfie Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:36 pm

Had to get Amla out someday I suppose...the other day they looked as if they didn't want to Smile

He really has had a tour to remember , hasn't he ? Played brilliantly , and has had a few handy slices of luck too which has proved an unbeatable combination.

If England could get AB now just maybe could keep them under par here...

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Post by alfie Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:40 pm

VTR are you making a bid to usurp Trebell's position ?

You've started well ...but I'm not sure Tredwell is up to finishing the job for you Smile

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Post by Duty281 Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:41 pm

RR starting to increase, we need another wicket.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:42 pm

SA (and AB in particular) determined not to let Tredwell settle...

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Post by KP_fan Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:44 pm

Good to see Bresnan dumped.

they needed to get Woakes in...in place of Tredwell or Patel.....
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Post by VTR Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:45 pm

alfie wrote:VTR are you making a bid to usurp Trebell's position ?

You've started well ...but I'm not sure Tredwell is up to finishing the job for you Smile

Those are big shoes to fill! It started as actual pessimism (sadly I haven't been under a rock this summer!) but as I've just taken a wicket I thought I'd try for another one. Might have to resort to talking up the opposition now I've slated all our bowlers!

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:45 pm

fielders in the circle at mid-off and mid-on need to be a lot tighter than that to Elgar, he's just looking to tip and run...

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Post by liverbnz Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:46 pm

VTR on fire here!

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:46 pm

and gone! good bowling from Tredwell, tossed up and De Villiers couldn't resist the bait, lofting it to Bell at long-on! well bowled indeed, and SA in a bit of a pickle here.

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Post by alfie Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:47 pm

Well done VTR clap (and Tredwell )

Though I'm taking some of the credit for an assist Smile

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Post by Duty281 Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:48 pm

What's the point of playing Patel if we're not gonna let him bowl? We may as well have given Bairstow a game if Patel isn't going to bowl. And well done Tredders, good wicket. Let's push on.

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