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Post by Duty281 Fri 31 Aug 2012, 12:09 pm

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England can snatch back the No.1 ODI Ranking with victory today and level the series but that will be unlikely with all the negative off-the-field drama that is happening. On the other hand, South Africa will be looking to cement their No.1 ODI ranking and go 2-0 up in the series. Should be a cracker of a game then.

England 1 Alastair Cook (capt), 2 Ian Bell, 3 Jonathan Trott, 4 Ravi Bopara, 5 Eoin Morgan, 6 Craig Kieswetter (wk), 7 Samit Patel, 8 James Tredwell, 9 Jade Dernbach, 10 James Anderson, 11 Steve Finn.

South Africa 1 Graeme Smith, 2 Hashim Amla, 3 JP Duminy, 4 Dean Elgar, 5 AB de Villiers (capt, wk), 6 Faf du Plessis, 7 Wayne Parnell, 8 Robin Peterson, 9 Dale Steyn, 10 Morne Morkel, 11 Lonwabo Tsotsobe.


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Post by VTR Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:51 pm

liverbnz wrote:VTR on fire here!

Laugh De Villiers out to Tredwell - get in there!

Still, big Samit is yet to come to the party. Not only is buffet his favourite meal, that adequately describes his bowling. Faf du Plesses, the best French-sounding cricketer ever to play the game will be dining out on these left-arm helpings for sure.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:51 pm

I'd be tempted to get Anderson back into the attack now, just to try and knock over a couple more.

scratch that, Bopara has just bowled Du Plessis, and England are right on top now!

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Post by alfie Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:52 pm

Bopara strikes !

England getting on top here...run rate is fine but we are getting closer to a longish South African tail...

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Post by Duty281 Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:53 pm

I think we can class Bopara as an all-rounder now for ODIs, he's bowled brilliantly today and he's just got a wicket. England on top!

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Post by liverbnz Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:53 pm

I suppose it's always better to have another option. If Bairstow played and SA decided to hit someone out of the attack, where would Cook turn?

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Post by Duty281 Fri 31 Aug 2012, 2:54 pm

liverbnz wrote:I suppose it's always better to have another option. If Bairstow played and SA decided to hit someone out of the attack, where would Cook turn?

Trott perhaps? In an emergency, maybe Ian Bell?

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:00 pm

Tredwell for test captain!


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Post by KP_fan Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:02 pm

a team almost the entire 11 on merit....and they are looking so much more competitive
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Post by alfie Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:05 pm

I'd like to see Bairstow playing too ...but in fairness to Patel he has done some pretty handy hitting late in ODI innings himself this year.
Also some flexibility for Cook - may well see Patel have a bowl later in the innings.

Now where is this next wicket coming from : hmmm...Dernbach ? Nah , never going to get one of these two out. Whistle

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:08 pm

good work alfie!

beautiful slower ball from Dernbach, too good for Elgar! music to England's ears Very Happy

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Post by liverbnz Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:09 pm

Sumptuous ball from Derbach. Love watching batsmen misjudging a slower ball.

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Post by alfie Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:10 pm

Blimey , this is easy...

That was a seriously nice bit of bowling though...well done Dernbach clap

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:13 pm

really was a cracking delivery from Dernbach. He's bowled very nicely today Very Happy

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Post by liverbnz Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:13 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWlKzm9BSNs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Reminded me of this. Never get tired of watching this dismissal.

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Post by liverbnz Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:15 pm

Oh dear Cookie. 5 down and no slip!

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Post by liverbnz Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:16 pm

And there you go!

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:16 pm

that's useless from Cook though, why no slip?

doesn't matter much, as the next is nicked through to Kieswetter and Dernbach has three.

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Post by alfie Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:19 pm

Now Sir Ian has joined in !

No sooner has he declared "the horse has bolted" than another edge gives Dernbach his third and SA are six down...

England maybe should consider going for the throat now ...Finn and Anderson have overs left...

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:23 pm

Finn and Anderson will be bowling in a couple of overs anyway as it'll be PP time. Might as well give Tredwell one more I guess.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:29 pm

and indeed, here's Steven Finn.

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Post by skyeman Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:29 pm

Derbach bowling his best in some time for England, but still not convinced by him. What does Woakes have to do?


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Post by VTR Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:38 pm

7th wicket partnership building here. Worrying for England as Duminy is a great player and South Africans called Peterson (or variants thereof) are usually handy with the bat.

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Post by Liam Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:42 pm

Anyone else think Finn should come around the wicket to left handers. Over the wicket he always seems to push it very wide, whereas as he showed in the test series, when he goes round the wicket he causes all sorts of problems, getting the ball to straighten and nip away from the left hander.

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Post by alfie Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:43 pm

skyeman wrote:Derbach bowling his best in some time for England, but still not convinced by him. What does Woakes have to do?


Certainly can't complain about Dernbach today ! However I also thought today was an opportunity for Woakes to play instead of Bresnan, a better fit as he can of course bat...but that would have meant leaving out Tredwell , and I don't think they fancy going with just Patel for spin on these pitches.
I'm sure Woakes will get a look in soon..

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Post by skyeman Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:45 pm

SA have to plod along for a while with 6 down until the last 3 or 4 overs to maybe get to 240 -245.

Get Duminy soon and only around 230. But Steyn and Morkel can give it a serious biff.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:49 pm

a very calm powerplay that, SA pair batting very sensibly and knocking the singles around, England still bowling good lines and not giving much away.

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Post by msp83 Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:50 pm

SA need these 2 to carry on for some more overs before trying to open up. 240 should be challenging on this track I feel, particularly as Dale Steyn is back. Anything under that though, England should be able to chase it down without a great deal of discomfort.

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Post by VTR Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:51 pm

Whatever total SA get to they can defend it. Steyn and Morkel with a new ball each - dangerous to say the least!

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Post by skyeman Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:52 pm

Bopara"s bowling has been way better than his batting recently.

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Post by alfie Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:54 pm

PP over and Ravi the wrecker is back on...can he get a break ?

No . Good over except for the last ball ...

SA could still get up to 240 odd here ...England rather need to get back in the wickets ...

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Post by alfie Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:55 pm

...and Tredwell obliges with the help of his mate Bell Smile

Very handy , Duminy gone...

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:55 pm

gone! Duminy tries to force the pace off Tredwell, gets nowhere near the pitch of the ball and skies it straight to Bell at long-off. The shot of a man who thinks SA are well below par at the moment?

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Post by skyeman Fri 31 Aug 2012, 3:56 pm

Duminy gone, great for England, but wrong for his team to go for it too early.

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Post by skyeman Fri 31 Aug 2012, 4:01 pm

Very good, tight ten from Bops.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 4:02 pm

Ravi finishes a really excellent spell with a maiden, somewhat surprisingly England's only of the series to date. 1-31, good work!

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Post by msp83 Fri 31 Aug 2012, 4:03 pm

Not only was that a poor shot from Duminy, it was pretty poor thinking as well. What the hell was he thinking? Or was he thinking at all?

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 4:04 pm

msp, I wonder if Duminy felt they were below par and needed something to get themselves up to 250-260.

good spell from Tredwell too, 2-48 and important wickets they were too Very Happy

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Post by msp83 Fri 31 Aug 2012, 4:07 pm

South Africa should at least try and get up to 230. Petersen smashes Anderson for 4 to get SA pass 200.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 4:07 pm

Anderson demolishes Steyn's stumps, 203-8

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Post by msp83 Fri 31 Aug 2012, 4:07 pm

Steyn's bowled by Anderson with a swinging ball.

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Post by alfie Fri 31 Aug 2012, 4:08 pm

Nice one Jimmy clap

Much too good for Steyn...eight out now ...


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Post by skyeman Fri 31 Aug 2012, 4:09 pm

Steyn gone to a peach from Anderson, beaten for pace.

Duminy going for it to soon, has the effect, sometimes it works, but often not.

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Post by msp83 Fri 31 Aug 2012, 4:12 pm

Mad for Chelsea wrote:msp, I wonder if Duminy felt they were below par and needed something to get themselves up to 250-260.

good spell from Tredwell too, 2-48 and important wickets they were too Very Happy
Even in that case, he could have gone for it perhaps around the 45th over or something. Because if he was taking risk and get out, this was pretty much on the card, as he was the last of the recognized batters. He needn't have panicked of getting stranded as well, as Petersen was giving him good support. Reminds me of his flash outside off in the first over with the 2nd new ball in the last test after he was well set.

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Post by skyeman Fri 31 Aug 2012, 4:16 pm

5 SA's bowled, wkt to wkt getting the rewards.

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Post by skyeman Fri 31 Aug 2012, 4:17 pm

Make that 6.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 4:18 pm

Jimmy knocks over Morkel, that's the 6th bowled of the innings, just too quick through Morkel there. SA 211-9 and in real danger of not batting out their overs here.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 4:19 pm

msp83 wrote:
Mad for Chelsea wrote:msp, I wonder if Duminy felt they were below par and needed something to get themselves up to 250-260.

good spell from Tredwell too, 2-48 and important wickets they were too Very Happy
Even in that case, he could have gone for it perhaps around the 45th over or something. Because if he was taking risk and get out, this was pretty much on the card, as he was the last of the recognized batters. He needn't have panicked of getting stranded as well, as Petersen was giving him good support. Reminds me of his flash outside off in the first over with the 2nd new ball in the last test after he was well set.

oh I agree it was a poor shot, I was just trying to understand what his thought process may have been.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 4:20 pm

out LBW first ball, though he'll review of course.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 31 Aug 2012, 4:21 pm

height the only doubt surely? yep trimming the bails, umpire's call and Anderson ends with four wickets, great performance from England today Very Happy

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Post by skyeman Fri 31 Aug 2012, 4:22 pm

Very good from Eng. All the bowlers played well.

Should be comfortable to go 1-1.

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