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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:58 pm

...and apparently not happy about it despite having sworn at, insulted and grabbed Marlon Samuels, and then later insulted an umpire.

Part of the incident(s) is shown here, with the swearing cut
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/

This round sparked by a fielder deliberately throwing a ball at Samuels ( for the second time in the game). Its quite apparent that Warne and his team were targeting Samuels to wind him up, which eventually led to him chucking hi bat in the air ( not toward and player). Alongside attempting to intimidate the umpire its really pretty poor stuff, and if thats the direction the BBL is taking for drama and competitiveness then it really sums up why many people hate T20

Unbelievable that Warne is complaining a one match ban is harsh.

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Post by Hibbz Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:25 pm

They just showed it on Sky.

After some earlier handbags Warne threw the ball (tossed it gently) at Samuels who then threw his bat at Warne but clearly decided just in time that were it to connect he'd be in some bother and adjusted his aim.

Warne really is a pantomime dame isn't he?

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Post by gboycottnut Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:35 pm

Hibbz wrote:They just showed it on Sky.

After some earlier handbags Warne threw the ball (tossed it gently) at Samuels who then threw his bat at Warne but clearly decided just in time that were it to connect he'd be in some bother and adjusted his aim.

Warne really is a pantomime dame isn't he?

More in bother with Warne himself than with the match referee!

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Post by seanmichaels Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:36 pm

Samuels just cracked. Couldn't take the banjo. Warne hasn't done anything outrageously untoward until the bat was thrown at him. I'd be aggreived. The BBC footage is awful as it shows the incident in a Pulp Fiction style (the end at the beginning).

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Post by skyeman Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:40 pm

Warne, in the top 5 bowlers, top 3 spinners of all time and a fierce competitor and amusing/knowledgeable commentator but at times over the years he has shown a childish side to him that i think will be present forever more.

But over the top this time especially in a poxy T20. A bit of frustration i think that at the time his team were getting whipped.

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Post by Hibbz Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:07 pm

gboycottnut wrote:
Hibbz wrote:They just showed it on Sky.

After some earlier handbags Warne threw the ball (tossed it gently) at Samuels who then threw his bat at Warne but clearly decided just in time that were it to connect he'd be in some bother and adjusted his aim.

Warne really is a pantomime dame isn't he?

More in bother with Warne himself than with the match referee!

Behave, Samuels could take Warne. Shane may be the colour of teak but he's about as hard as balsa. Besides which he'd be terrified of getting his barnet messed up.

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Post by Diggers Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:13 pm

Hibbz wrote:
gboycottnut wrote:
Hibbz wrote:They just showed it on Sky.

After some earlier handbags Warne threw the ball (tossed it gently) at Samuels who then threw his bat at Warne but clearly decided just in time that were it to connect he'd be in some bother and adjusted his aim.

Warne really is a pantomime dame isn't he?

More in bother with Warne himself than with the match referee!

Besides which he'd be terrified of getting his barnet messed up.

If it is indeed actually his barnet......

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Post by Hibbz Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:17 pm

Well I guess it counts as his seeing as how he paid for it but certainly questionable as to whether he was the one that grew it.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:19 pm

apparently though in the first innings Samuels grabbed David Hussey as he turned for a second run, preventing him from doing so, this despite there being no contact between the two before that. Haven't see footage of that incident anywhere, but it's been given on cricinfo as the reason they had a real go at Samuels when he came into bat.

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Post by gboycottnut Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:36 pm

Hibbz wrote:
gboycottnut wrote:
Hibbz wrote:They just showed it on Sky.

After some earlier handbags Warne threw the ball (tossed it gently) at Samuels who then threw his bat at Warne but clearly decided just in time that were it to connect he'd be in some bother and adjusted his aim.

Warne really is a pantomime dame isn't he?

More in bother with Warne himself than with the match referee!

Behave, Samuels could take Warne. Shane may be the colour of teak but he's about as hard as balsa. Besides which he'd be terrified of getting his barnet messed up.

Probably, but then again if it did come down to a punchup/fist fight, Samuels will know that he has the huge advantage over Warne of having a helmet to protect his face as well as being able to use his pads which will he can take off in order to belt Warne on the head with!

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Post by Biltong Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:58 pm

Hibbz wrote:
gboycottnut wrote:
Hibbz wrote:They just showed it on Sky.

After some earlier handbags Warne threw the ball (tossed it gently) at Samuels who then threw his bat at Warne but clearly decided just in time that were it to connect he'd be in some bother and adjusted his aim.

Warne really is a pantomime dame isn't he?

More in bother with Warne himself than with the match referee!

Behave, Samuels could take Warne. Shane may be the colour of teak but he's about as hard as balsa. Besides which he'd be terrified of getting his barnet messed up.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:28 pm

Mad for Chelsea wrote:apparently though in the first innings Samuels grabbed David Hussey as he turned for a second run, preventing him from doing so, this despite there being no contact between the two before that. Haven't see footage of that incident anywhere, but it's been given on cricinfo as the reason they had a real go at Samuels when he came into bat.

Ah that makes sense as to what Shane was going on about now....and why he was grabbing him.

Still no need to F on live TV, throw the ball at him and stomp around like a big kid though. And the incident with the umpire was totally unrelated. From the sounds of it they should both have been hauled up.

Apparently Samuels may miss the rest of the tournament anyway as he managed to edge a delivery into his face and has had to have treatment to a swollen eye.

Apparently that may actually be Warnes last ever game in Aus if his lot dont qualify for the semis, which may explain why hes having such a hissy fit

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Post by gboycottnut Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:32 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Mad for Chelsea wrote:apparently though in the first innings Samuels grabbed David Hussey as he turned for a second run, preventing him from doing so, this despite there being no contact between the two before that. Haven't see footage of that incident anywhere, but it's been given on cricinfo as the reason they had a real go at Samuels when he came into bat.

Ah that makes sense as to what Shane was going on about now....and why he was grabbing him.

Still no need to F on live TV, throw the ball at him and stomp around like a big kid though. And the incident with the umpire was totally unrelated. From the sounds of it they should both have been hauled up.

Apparently Samuels may miss the rest of the tournament anyway as he managed to edge a delivery into his face and has had to have treatment to a swollen eye.

Apparently that may actually be Warnes last ever game in Aus if his lot dont qualify for the semis, which may explain why hes having such a hissy fit

Wonder if Warne had punched Samuels instead of throwing the ball at him with a girly throw whether Samuels would have ended up with a BIGGER swollen eye than what he got from that edged delivery which hit his eye.


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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:34 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Mad for Chelsea wrote:apparently though in the first innings Samuels grabbed David Hussey as he turned for a second run, preventing him from doing so, this despite there being no contact between the two before that. Haven't see footage of that incident anywhere, but it's been given on cricinfo as the reason they had a real go at Samuels when he came into bat.

Ah that makes sense as to what Shane was going on about now....and why he was grabbing him.

Still no need to F on live TV, throw the ball at him and stomp around like a big kid though. And the incident with the umpire was totally unrelated. From the sounds of it they should both have been hauled up.

Apparently Samuels may miss the rest of the tournament anyway as he managed to edge a delivery into his face and has had to have treatment to a swollen eye.

Apparently that may actually be Warnes last ever game in Aus if his lot dont qualify for the semis, which may explain why hes having such a hissy fit

Samuels is facing charges of making inappropriate physical contact with a player and engaging in unbecoming behaviour towards a player - Warne pleaded guilty to the charges of
-using obscene language (Aus$1500 fine)
-showing dissent at an umpire's decision (A$1500 fine)
-inappropriate physical contact with a player (A$3000 fine and a one-game suspension)

so his case was processed more quickly.

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Post by gboycottnut Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:36 pm

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:
Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Mad for Chelsea wrote:apparently though in the first innings Samuels grabbed David Hussey as he turned for a second run, preventing him from doing so, this despite there being no contact between the two before that. Haven't see footage of that incident anywhere, but it's been given on cricinfo as the reason they had a real go at Samuels when he came into bat.

Ah that makes sense as to what Shane was going on about now....and why he was grabbing him.

Still no need to F on live TV, throw the ball at him and stomp around like a big kid though. And the incident with the umpire was totally unrelated. From the sounds of it they should both have been hauled up.

Apparently Samuels may miss the rest of the tournament anyway as he managed to edge a delivery into his face and has had to have treatment to a swollen eye.

Apparently that may actually be Warnes last ever game in Aus if his lot dont qualify for the semis, which may explain why hes having such a hissy fit

Samuels is facing charges of making inappropriate physical contact with a player and engaging in unbecoming behaviour towards a player - Warne pleaded guilty to the charges of
-using obscene language (Aus$1500 fine)
-showing dissent at an umpire's decision (A$1500 fine)
-inappropriate physical contact with a player (A$3000 fine and a one-game suspension)

so his case was processed more quickly.


Well it is a non-contact sport after all.

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Post by Biltong Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:43 pm

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:
Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Mad for Chelsea wrote:apparently though in the first innings Samuels grabbed David Hussey as he turned for a second run, preventing him from doing so, this despite there being no contact between the two before that. Haven't see footage of that incident anywhere, but it's been given on cricinfo as the reason they had a real go at Samuels when he came into bat.

Ah that makes sense as to what Shane was going on about now....and why he was grabbing him.

Still no need to F on live TV, throw the ball at him and stomp around like a big kid though. And the incident with the umpire was totally unrelated. From the sounds of it they should both have been hauled up.

Apparently Samuels may miss the rest of the tournament anyway as he managed to edge a delivery into his face and has had to have treatment to a swollen eye.

Apparently that may actually be Warnes last ever game in Aus if his lot dont qualify for the semis, which may explain why hes having such a hissy fit

Samuels is facing charges of making inappropriate physical contact with a player and engaging in unbecoming behaviour towards a player - Warne pleaded guilty to the charges of
-using obscene language (Aus$1500 fine)
-showing dissent at an umpire's decision (A$1500 fine)
-inappropriate physical contact with a player (A$3000 fine and a one-game suspension)

so his case was processed more quickly.


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Post by Hibbz Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:26 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Mad for Chelsea wrote:apparently though in the first innings Samuels grabbed David Hussey as he turned for a second run, preventing him from doing so, this despite there being no contact between the two before that. Haven't see footage of that incident anywhere, but it's been given on cricinfo as the reason they had a real go at Samuels when he came into bat.

Ah that makes sense as to what Shane was going on about now....and why he was grabbing him.

Still no need to F on live TV, throw the ball at him and stomp around like a big kid though. And the incident with the umpire was totally unrelated. From the sounds of it they should both have been hauled up.

Apparently Samuels may miss the rest of the tournament anyway as he managed to edge a delivery into his face and has had to have treatment to a swollen eye.

Apparently that may actually be Warnes last ever game in Aus if his lot dont qualify for the semis, which may explain why hes having such a hissy fit

They showed footage of Samuels "grabbing" Hussey on Sky. It was a bit strange as the second run didn't appear to be on and Hussey was showing no sign of trying for another until Samuels put his hands on him. It wasn't really a grab more a bit of token restraint but not sure why Samuels would do it.

In my humble Pretty Boy Warne was just looking for an excuse to make a fuss as his side we getting tonked. In fact I think he admitted as much as I think he said something about just trying to get his team going.

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Post by Mike Selig Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:53 pm

I thought it was all a bit childish TBH. Samuels grabbed Hussey (which was stupid, and I have no idea what he was thinking of); Warne was clearly looking to make something happen, so thought he'd try and make Samuels crack, IMO not much to do with the first incident, but maybe that was still in the back of Warnie's mind.

All silly, rather than sinister, and a couple of matches ban (one match lenient IMO) for both should do the trick. Samuels won't make any difference as injured.

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Post by Shelsey93 Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:26 pm

Actual incidents weren't hugely significant for me. Grabbing Hussey was stupid of Samuels; not clear if Warne threw the ball deliberately or not. But the fuss afterwards wasn't good for the game.

Given that Shane basically owns the BBL I'm a bit surprised they banned him! But probably deserved. Really he needs to retire once and for all.

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Post by gboycottnut Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:45 pm

Shelsey93 wrote:Actual incidents weren't hugely significant for me. Grabbing Hussey was stupid of Samuels; not clear if Warne threw the ball deliberately or not. But the fuss afterwards wasn't good for the game.

Given that Shane basically owns the BBL I'm a bit surprised they banned him! But probably deserved. Really he needs to retire once and for all.

Well Shane should ban further matches in the BBL until he gets a full apology from Samuels!

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Post by Hibbz Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:09 pm

Shelsey93 wrote:Actual incidents weren't hugely significant for me. Grabbing Hussey was stupid of Samuels; not clear if Warne threw the ball deliberately or not. But the fuss afterwards wasn't good for the game.

Given that Shane basically owns the BBL I'm a bit surprised they banned him! But probably deserved. Really he needs to retire once and for all.

Oh he "threw" it at Samuels deliberately all right but as I said earlier it was a gentle lob designed to antagonise rather than injure. It worked as well but hopefully it won't become a recognised tactic.

Warne's "naffness" and age seem to run in directly proportionate lines.

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Post by king_carlos Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:39 am

As has been said Warne was/is one of the great bowlers but he this is just another example in a long line of him making himself look an idiot.

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Post by shivfan Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:18 am

Mike Selig wrote:I thought it was all a bit childish TBH. Samuels grabbed Hussey (which was stupid, and I have no idea what he was thinking of); Warne was clearly looking to make something happen, so thought he'd try and make Samuels crack, IMO not much to do with the first incident, but maybe that was still in the back of Warnie's mind.

All silly, rather than sinister, and a couple of matches ban (one match lenient IMO) for both should do the trick. Samuels won't make any difference as injured.
Agreed....

But more serious is the injury Samuels suffered, as a result of top-edged a hook off a delivery from Malinga into his eye:

"MARLON Samuels will not return home to Jamaica for a month with his facial injuries worse than first feared. The Melbourne Renegades all-rounder was struck in the face by a Lasith Malinga thunderbolt on Sunday night after he top-edged an attempted hook shot. Captain Aaron Finch said after the match the West Indian star had a suspected fractured eye socket and the Renegades have maintained since that no update is available because swelling across the bridge of his nose is too severe for a more specific assessment. But it is understood Samuels has been ordered by doctors to remain as still as possible to avoid the chance of permanent damage to his vision. He will likely not leave his hotel room for weeks until given the medical all-clear and almost certainly miss the West Indies' tour of Australia next month."

http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/injury-to-ground-melbourne-renegades-star-marlon-samuels/story-fng7sibl-1226549798769
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Post by msp83 Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:30 pm

A bit too stupid from Warney, but again he has done it in the past hasn't he?
But more serious is the injury to Samuels, I hope there is no major damage that would keep him out for long.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:43 pm

Blimey sounds like a very nasty injury.

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Post by king_carlos Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:15 pm

Fractured eye socket does sound nasty.

A big blow for Samuels given how rich a vein of form (and maturity) he's found recently, hopefully it doesn't break his stride for the Windies sake as well as his.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:02 am

He's managed to get himself fined again for pretending he wasn't captain to avoid a ban for a second slow over rate. This time admitted he knew what he was doing and blamed the team management for not telling him he'd get fined, no remorse for breaking the spirit of cricket.
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Post by Pal Joey Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:40 am

Yeah, he was cited for that almost a week ago.

Did they show the footage of Liz Hurely at the airport... running over a reporter's toes with her luggage trolley then leaning into her face to say something or pull a face? Some unflattering pictures of her... I think they have been edited to make her look far from glamorous.

The honeymoon is already over perhaps? Warne has a very fiery temper despite all the buffoonery, clowning around and grandstanding that goes on. Sure, he's a great of the game but I feel he's losing his marble (singular!)
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Post by shivfan Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:34 am

Charge of holding Dussey dismissed, and Samuels only receives a reprimand, because of "extreme provocation" from Warne:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/current/story/601640.html

"Samuels was infuriated that only Malinga among the Stars side checked on his welfare as he left the field bleeding from an eye wound, but he praised the support he had received from the Renegades and vowed that he would only represent them in the BBL. From the ugliest of incidents came a rare sign of player loyalty in the money-buys-all world of Twenty20."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/big-bash-league-2012/content/current/story/601699.html

"Cameron White, the Melbourne Stars batsman, has labelled as "remarkable" the reprimand given to his Melbourne Renegades opponent Marlon Samuels over the altercation that earned Shane Warne a one-match BBL suspension. White has also refused to apologise for not going to the aid of Samuels when he suffered a severe facial injury from a Lasith Malinga bouncer later in the same match."

I'm appalled that aside from Malinga, none of the fielders expressed concern at the potentially career-ending injury Samuels suffered. He was bleeding from the eye socket....

I watched cricket during the days when Lloyd and Richards had a battery of fast bowlers, and I remember seeing the likes of Paul Terry, Andy Lloyd and Jeremy Coney suffering serious injuries, including broken limbs, from short deliveries from our pacers, and my abiding memory is seeing a swarm of WI players around the injured batsman, expressing concern over the injury they had just suffered.

Malinga was the bowler, and he had the class to inquire after Samuels' health. The following players need to take a serious look into how they play the game, and if they've lost all sense of perspective:

Luke Wright
Brad Hodge
Glenn Maxwell
David Hussey
Cameron White
Rob Quiney
James Faulkner
John Hastings
Clint McKay
Shane Warne
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:39 am

The treatment of Samuels had been pretty bad by the sound of it. His comments also highlight a nasty side the competitive intensity of t20 cricket.

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Post by Galted Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:01 pm

Not sure the fielding side would have known the extent of the injury. Didn't seem to be too much concern around Mark Boucher's eye injury when it happened & it turned out to be career-ending.

With regards to the West Indies showing concern to serious injuries, isn't that just hypocrisy? If they were so concerned about a player's welfare why continually bowl short & endanger them in the first place?
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Post by Mike Selig Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:11 pm

Some guys must have been watching a different game. At least 4 Melbourne players went to check on Samuels, and 3 patted him on the back as he walked off.

Suspect Samuels got away without a ban due to sympathy at his injury TBH. His attitude both with the Hussey shirt pull and then throwing his bat away was very poor.

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