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Are the New ODI regulations Against Spinners?

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Post by msp83 Thu 17 Jan 2013, 1:38 pm

Mahela Jayawardene, one of the top international captains and a valued voice in the game thinks that the new odi regulations, particularly the added field restrictions are against spinners.
I think Mahela has a point. While the 2 new balls and the 2 bouncers could in some ways negate the advantage for the batsman, I have a feeling they are detrimental to the possibilities of reverse swing and put added pressure on the spinner, particularly with iron like bats and short boundaries.
What do you all think?

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Post by Fists of Fury Thu 17 Jan 2013, 2:00 pm

Worse for medium pacers, I'd say. If you aren't quick enough to put someone on the back foot, or keep in their mind that a fast short one could be coming, then you are in for a serious battering.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu 17 Jan 2013, 2:03 pm

I think if they are then Englands seamers should be even more embarrassed about being outperformed by Joe Root.

Its worth noting that one of the problems the new regulations came in to "fix" was that part time pie chuckers were becoming increasingly effective in the middle overs at the expense of proper bowlers. The current system is pushing teams to select 5 proper bowlers.

Lets see how this pans out. When T20 came in spinners were written off as almost redundant, right up until it was discovered that they are actually very effective.
Players and strategy adapt very quickly to these rule changes.

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Post by dummy_half Thu 17 Jan 2013, 2:26 pm

If you look at the figures from the two England v India ODIs played under these rules, it has been the pace bowlers who have taken a bit of a pasting - Sharma went for over 80 in his 10 overs in the first game and then Dernbach and Finn got pummelled at the end of the Indian innings in the 2nd match. By comparison, the spinners were usually going for around 5 an over.

It will be interesting to see how things evolve in the next few months, especially when these regulations are used in English conditions as well. At the moment though it looks like the main effect has been to revert the tactics of the 50 over game to wicket preservation in the first stages of an innings and a final 10 overs (+/- a few depending on conditions and the state of the game) offensive by the batting side.

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Post by msp83 Thu 17 Jan 2013, 2:38 pm

While the 2 new balls have reduced events of regular ball changes, I think taking out reverse swing, a hard to master skill from the game is good for the game itself. On flat roads, the newish ball would keep going all the more faster to the boundary.

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Post by dummy_half Thu 17 Jan 2013, 2:45 pm

Don't like the 2 new balls thing at all - one of the skills of the game should be to adjust to the condition of the ball as it evolves with use. 25 overs per ball is simply too short for the conditions to change markedly after the first few overs of using a hard and laquered ball.

Reverse swing is a fantastic skill, and watching a prime exponent (such as Wasim Akram) bowling the death overs with a reversing ball against batsmen who are trying to get him away to the boundary used to be one of the most exciting parts of the game. Even 50 over cricket should be a competition between the bat and ball, only T20 should really be all about the big hitting and deep fielding.

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Post by msp83 Thu 17 Jan 2013, 3:35 pm

Even T-20 becomes a meaningful contest when there is a bit of space for the bowler.

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