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Post by Guest on Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:49 pm

Let the talk, arguments, disagreements and bickering continue...

I really fancy a Spurs win today.

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Post by JamesLincs on Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:55 pm

obviously im going to be pessimistic, sandro for me is a huge loss as hes hes been player of the season so far. but if bale and lennon can perform it could be a great day

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Post by The Special Juan on Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:57 pm

I want a Utd win, think it will be a draw and fear it will be a loss.
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Post by GSC on Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:59 pm

Gut says Spurs can nick something
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Post by GSC on Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:09 pm

Chelsea manager Rafael Benitez: "Today Torres was a key player for us. Every run he was always there and ready and pushing the defenders.

50m decoy
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Post by mystiroakey on Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:15 pm

this game is pretty poor so far..

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Post by JamesLincs on Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:24 pm

wasted ball after wasted ball by naughton, as always

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Post by Ent on Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:27 pm

Great goal from united.

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Post by JamesLincs on Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:32 pm

i think lloris should have done better

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Post by Ent on Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:34 pm

He would have needed to grow a foot and a half to do better.

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Post by Duty281 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:55 pm

Thinking Spurs might just nick a point or three here despite being 1 down at HT. United look overly cautious, not there normal selves at all.

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Post by JamesLincs on Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:57 pm

beaten at his near post

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Post by Ent on Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:11 pm

Lots of diving from spurs.

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Post by Lumbering_Jack on Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:17 pm

Rumours Pardew has been sacked. Anyone hear anything?

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Post by Hulking_up on Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:18 pm

Scott Parker has had 2 but you won't hear about it.

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Post by Ent on Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:22 pm

How has the ref missed that penalty?

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Post by The Special Juan on Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:29 pm

Carrick > Xavi + Iniesta + Busquets combined
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Post by Ent on Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:52 pm

Only ourselves to blame, very comfortable defending but kept messing up the final pass when we broke.

Can we have a media storm over this stone wall penalty not given? Or we will just ignore it...

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Post by JamesLincs on Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:52 pm

Very Happy

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Post by GSC on Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm

Rooney wouldve missed it anyway
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Post by Duty281 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm

Tottenham deserved at least a point, by far the better team in that game. United far too cautious in this one. Lennon was terrific, get that man in the England squad. Well played Tottenham. clap

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Post by JamesLincs on Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:56 pm

love it! fantastic performance, ive never understood the term 'the draw felt like a win' until today. im delighted with the performance, we absolutely deserve the draw. neither team deserved to lose. and it wont do you any damage i dont think. youre far too good not to win it!

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Post by JamesLincs on Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:57 pm

words cant describe how much i love lennon

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Post by Ent on Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:02 pm

Just irritating as tactically we were spot on, strong at the back, counter attacked, bullied dembele and generally kept spurs at arms length.

A bit more care with our passes and we could have been through on several occasions.

Irritating.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:03 pm

Ent wrote:How has the ref missed that penalty?

Funnily enough it still won't put the theory to bed that United have the refs in their pocket

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Post by Ent on Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:06 pm

gazzyD wrote:
Ent wrote:How has the ref missed that penalty?

Funnily enough it still won't put the theory to bed that United have the refs in their pocket

With or without the penalty we've only ourselves to blame, perfect performance apart from the end- a little more care with our passing and we could have had 2 or 3 goals.

Just annoying but ah well.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:07 pm

IMO Chris Foy had a poor game.....however credit to spurs for sticking to the task, and nicking a point right at the end of the game.

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Post by Ent on Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:09 pm

CF wrote:IMO Chris Foy had a poor game.....however credit to spurs for sticking to the task, and nicking a point right at the end of the game.

At the end of the day we'd have probably won had he had a good game but to win championships you need to win in spite of refereeing performances and we would have done so had we taken more care on the break.

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Post by Guest on Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:17 pm

i thought it was an entertaining game though, and good that common sense prevailed and that the game went ahead.

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Post by Ent on Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:25 pm

Thought it was a bit of an anticlimax in terms of excitement

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Post by The Special Juan on Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:28 pm

I'm disappointed but not disappointed in a very odd way. Obviously I'm hacked off about the last minute goal but then again I said I'd take a draw so I'm feeling neutral. For all Spurs possession they didn't do much with it and Utd's defense was as good as I've seen it in a long time.

I didn't see any "stonewall" penalty incident so I can't comment.
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Post by Ent on Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:43 pm

I'm just annoyed for the reasons I liated above.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:47 pm

The way Spurs have been playing before the game I thought a draw would have been a good result for Utd.

Obviously conceding in the last minute is a kick in the teeth
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Post by Liam on Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:50 pm

Disappointed we couldn't hold out in the end. Rooney has a stone wall penalty disallowed which if scored, would have probably won us the game. All credit to Spurs though, they were the better team second half and deserved a point. I thought Lennon in particular was superb all game, looked threatening every time he got the ball. Wished we didn't sit back as deep as we did second half, just invited Spurs to put pressure on us.

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Post by mystiroakey on Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:11 pm

it was a half pace prem performance- must have been the conditions, players may have been ultra cautious...

lennon exploited that second half for sure.

Boring game for me though. But i really enjoyed the second half from arsernal

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Post by Duty281 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:56 pm

Wow, Tottenham had a whopping 25 shots in the game...United had just five.

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Post by The Special Juan on Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:10 pm

Duty281 wrote:Wow, Tottenham had a whopping 25 shots in the game...United had just five.

How many on target? 5 I bet and even that's pushing it.
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Post by Duty281 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:45 pm

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Duty281 wrote:Wow, Tottenham had a whopping 25 shots in the game...United had just five.

How many on target? 5 I bet and even that's pushing it.

Depends whose stats you use. The BBC say Tottenham had 23 shots and 18 on target, the Guardian say Tottenham had 25 shots and 8 on target.

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Post by The Special Juan on Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:05 am

Duty281 wrote:
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Duty281 wrote:Wow, Tottenham had a whopping 25 shots in the game...United had just five.

How many on target? 5 I bet and even that's pushing it.

Depends whose stats you use. The BBC say Tottenham had 23 shots and 18 on target, the Guardian say Tottenham had 25 shots and 8 on target.

Laugh What do they use as the definition for a "shot on target"? I watched the game and I'd be inclined to go with the Guardian. Off the top of my head I can only remember 3 clear cut shots on target: Bale's deflected one, the one where (Dempsey?) found himself 1 v 1 with De Gea after snaking his way through the defence and the goal.
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Post by Ent on Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:37 am

Bbc must count anything blocked but they fired a few tame ones straight at de gea.

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Post by azania on Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:18 am

Where has my arsenal gone Sad

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Post by mystiroakey on Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:31 am

your arsernal is again a one man team az- Walcott!

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Post by mystiroakey on Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:18 pm

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:35 pm

Ent wrote:Only ourselves to blame, very comfortable defending but kept messing up the final pass when we broke.

Can we have a media storm over this stone wall penalty not given? Or we will just ignore it...

No media storm, of course (other than attacking Fergie maybe), because it really ruins everyone's fun when you point out that decisions often go against United and other teams benefit a lot more from refereeing or score more last minute goals etc (this final point being true of both Arsenal and Chelsea [more goals and greater proportion of goals, both] but you never here people banging on about 'Wenger-time' or Chelsea always squeaking last minute winners).

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:40 pm

Duty281 wrote:Tottenham deserved at least a point, by far the better team in that game.

Have never understood this phrase, or the point of it at least. United handed out one of the most one-sided beatings I've ever seen in the Prem for the whole second half at OT but Spurs came away with the win. And? If Spurs 'deserved' yesterday's point then United at least 'deserved' 1 if not all 3 earlier in the season.

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Post by liverbnz on Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:11 pm

So United fans are moaning about a decision going against them by 'not moaning'.

Clever!

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Post by TopHat24/7 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:20 pm

No, United fans are moaning, we are just not surprised that everyone else is totally ignoring it (as usual).

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Post by liverbnz on Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:23 pm

It's a bit like a billionaire complaining of being charged PPI. He's in the right, but no cares as he has loads of money in the bank anyway.

That's generally what happens when people feel the right result (on the balance of play) was achieved. There was plenty made of United's appeals for pens at Old Trafford vs Spurs as people felt United deserved more. Although, I've heard plenty of people going on about the decision yesterday and today. Easily as much as the West Ham decisions on Wednesday.

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Post by Lumbering_Jack on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:44 pm

I've always held a special dislike for Villa. Watching Bradford beat them tonight brought a big smile to my face.

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Post by JamesLincs on Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:47 pm

comon west ham Smile

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