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Post by GSC Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:53 pm

Larry Allen, Cris Carter, Jonathan Ogden, Bill Parcells, Warren Sapp, Curley Culp & Dave Robinson

About time Carter got in.
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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:39 pm

Generally happy.

The Strahan vs Sapp thing seems to be the main talking point... think the panel couldn't ever think of putting every single 1st time entrant in one first ballot. Its tough to pick one, but I think Strahan may have been the better choice because Sapp is somewhat of an irritation despite his quality!

I watched the announcement live as I stumbled across it on Gamepass. Loved Ogden's interview... the prototypical tackle during my time following the game.

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Post by Pr4wn Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:18 pm

His personality has nothing to do with the hall of fame. Sapp re-defined the defensive tackle position and deserves his place.

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Post by CFCNick Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:53 pm

BILL PARCELLS!!!!!!!

That is all.

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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:00 pm

Pr4wn wrote:His personality has nothing to do with the hall of fame. Sapp re-defined the defensive tackle position and deserves his place.

Deserves it yes, but whether on a first year ballot is the question. In some senses i'm surprised voters didn't take his personality into the equation and take Strahan in year 1.

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Post by GSC Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:01 pm

Yeah I kinda thought they mightve taken into account that Sapp is a massive ***hole since he retired. Interesting to see if T.O gets off as well.
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Post by BamBam Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:48 pm

Brett Favre is a bit of a muppet too, but still no doubt he is going in first ballot

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Post by GSC Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:49 pm

Yeah but Brett Favre is a Ray Lewis/Peyton Manning/Tom Brady like candidate. Sapp not quite on that level which is why people had him and Strahan as bubble guys.

Great to see Carter finally in. Shouldve been in a while ago.
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Post by Pr4wn Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:18 pm

Sapp was completely dominant and that's what matters. Four times and all-pro and in both the all-90s and all-2000s teams.

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Post by GSC Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:20 pm

Nobodies denying that. However people werent sure what extent off the field issues would be taken into account.

We get Sapp was great.
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Post by Pr4wn Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:23 pm

But you don't seem to get that personality has nothing to do with whether you get into the Hall. It's about how dominant you were as a player.

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Post by GSC Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:27 pm

It's voted on journos, like it or not its going to have an impact. Same thing for TO
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Post by Pr4wn Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:45 pm

Well clearly not as he made it in.

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Post by GSC Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:55 pm

Yes, the impact of it was what people wondered about it.

We get it, Sapp was a Bucs player, we'll stop attacking his greatness now Rolling Eyes
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Post by Derbyblue Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:31 pm

No Art Modell, if only Baltimore hadn't won would have been a great weekend for Browns fans.

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Post by Number-25 Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:56 pm

At the risk of reigniting the Sapp v Strahan debate..... I'd have gone with Strahan - NFL sack record, 7 Pro Bowls, 4 times an All-Pro, NFL 2000s All-decade team and of course a Super Bowl.

In terms of their stats and achievements, the two guys are virtually inseparable. You almost have to either vote both in at the same time or neither. If you're going to vote just one in then it's got to be something intangible that seprates them... like one being a **** and the other seemingly being an OK guy. I'd take the one that isn't a ****.

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Post by Pr4wn Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:39 pm

Difference is that Sapp did it all playing inside. Much harder to get those kind of numbers when you're not on the edge.

But I'm biased so...

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Post by Thomond Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:26 pm

Sapp redefined his position and was a physical freak. The guy run a faster 40 time then Anquan Boldin and Jerry Rice! At DT he had 96.5 sacks. As far as I know he is the second in all time sacks for Defensive tackles, Michael Strahan was a super defensive end, but people will look for the next Sapp for years to come, there will be a fair few guys who could probably equal Strahan in terms of impact.


The Bucs defence had a sack for 69 consecutive games. A lot of that was down to Sapp (Simeon Rice to a lesser extent). The Giants apss rush was still productive without Strahan. Does Strahan deserve to go in, absolutely he may wait another year or two though. The only thing stopping Sapp was his own idiocy.

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