England vs Italy: Match thread

by nathan Sun 10 Mar 2013, 11:04 am

First topic message reminder :

So what are peoples predictions? It's snowing in Leicester, so I presume similar weather at Twickenham?

I have a bad feeling about this game and don't think England will run away with it as many are predicting.

by nathan Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:36 pm

wales606 wrote:
100%beefy wrote:currently wales have to win by 15 points to win the 6 Nations...is that unachievable

15pts is the difference,

Wales have to win by 8

England have to win first.....

by thebluesmancometh Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:36 pm

Tuilagi clearly holding back Parisse and Lawes dives in from the side of a ruck to kill ball!!!

by **LondonTiger** Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:37 pm

What odds the draw?

by **LondonTiger** Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:37 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:Tuilagi clearly holding back Parisse and Lawes dives in from the side of a ruck to kill ball!!!

Obviousley not that clear, and Clancy had yelled ball out.

by Morgannwg Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:37 pm

Definitely the confident Azzuri we seen versus France. Such a pretty sight in the 6 Nations. Game of the weekend so far.
Smile

by Hood83 Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:38 pm

This is woeful. I'm running out of negative comments! If Italy have more threatening backs then your team, you're in trouble.

by Morgannwg Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:38 pm

nathan wrote:
wales606 wrote:
100%beefy wrote:currently wales have to win by 15 points to win the 6 Nations...is that unachievable

15pts is the difference,

Wales have to win by 8

England have to win first.....

I like those odds.

by kingelderfield Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:39 pm

Is it me is is this not quite working?

by wales606 Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:40 pm

Arggg, so close for Italy

If Orquera hadn't sliped it would have been a try

by Breadvan Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:40 pm

Feck me.... Shocked

by Barney McGrew did it Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:40 pm

Tbh Italy deserve this game so far

by thebluesmancometh Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:41 pm

England desperate defence!!! Well done England, killing ball effectively right on the line of illegally or not!!

England should just take this, and this defence will be just what they need!

by Scoped Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:41 pm

How the hell did Clancy not penalise England there?! Absurd. They were off their feet and not releasing all over the place

by wales606 Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:41 pm

If Italy were in the Lions, I would take the Italian back 3 players over any of the English

by LeinsterFan4life Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:41 pm

Italy deserve it by far the better team

by Hood83 Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:41 pm

Italy deserve this. What does that say about us. As ever, complacent, lacklustre and utterly clueless in attack. What odds on a Welsh champ.

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:42 pm

Morgannwg wrote:
nathan wrote:
wales606 wrote:
100%beefy wrote:currently wales have to win by 15 points to win the 6 Nations...is that unachievable

15pts is the difference,

Wales have to win by 8

England have to win first.....

I like those odds.

As it stands englands pd is 17 better plus 7 from this game.
Wales would have to win by 12?

by Morgannwg Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:43 pm

Italy won't get another chance like that. Game over.

by wales606 Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:43 pm

Awful clearance by Flood

Italy have created more, ill disipline in the first half has cost them.

Zanni down, he has had another great game

by wales606 Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:43 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Morgannwg wrote:
nathan wrote:
wales606 wrote:
100%beefy wrote:currently wales have to win by 15 points to win the 6 Nations...is that unachievable

15pts is the difference,

Wales have to win by 8

England have to win first.....

I like those odds.

As it stands englands pd is 17 better plus 7 from this game.
Wales would have to win by 12?

It was 17 before this weekend when Wales won by 10

by Hood83 Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:44 pm

wales606 wrote:If Italy were in the Lions, I would take the Italian back 3 players over any of the English

Yep. In fact, any of their backs probably

by 100%beefy Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:45 pm

1 England 3 3 0 0 73 37 6
2 Wales 4 3 0 1 92 63 6
3 Scotland 4 2 0 2 82 84 4
4 Ireland 4 1 1 2 57 59 3
5 Italy 3 1 0 2 42 78 2
6 France 4 0 1 3 50 75 1

18 - 11 means Eng will be 91 - 48 PD 43
Wales is 29

by wales606 Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:45 pm

Anther dire box kick, Brown saves some blushes

by Geordie Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:46 pm

We have to move Brown to full back...

by wales606 Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:46 pm

Venditti so close

Unlucky for Italy

Roll on next week

by logie28 Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:46 pm

Game ends on typical note, england play ball on the ground and get away with it....bit sickening this....

by Taylorman Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:46 pm

crazy...one minute to go you dont kick the ball to the opposition. How many times does that get ignored. Dumb rugby.

by Barney McGrew did it Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:47 pm

I truly believe I will never see England play so clue-lessly again. Watch out Wales.

Italy were brilliant and deserved to sneak it. But they didn't.

by thebluesmancometh Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:47 pm

That last play mustve been sickening from an Italian POV, no Englishman on his feet yet everyones fighting over the ball on the ground...

by wales606 Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:47 pm

100%beefy wrote:1 England 3 3 0 0 73 37 6
2 Wales 4 3 0 1 92 63 6
3 Scotland 4 2 0 2 82 84 4
4 Ireland 4 1 1 2 57 59 3
5 Italy 3 1 0 2 42 78 2
6 France 4 0 1 3 50 75 1

18 - 11 means Eng will be 91 - 48 PD 43
Wales is 29

Yep, so Wales have to win by 8

by glamorganalun Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:48 pm

What an interesting final game coming up Wales need to win by 8, not 48 as expected.

by rainbow-warrior Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:48 pm

Well up for work in NZ and catching the last 30 mins. My my my, so that's the mighty England...terrifying. Italian Bulls v Gummy Bears. Bring on Cadiff, to stop the GS AND win the league....COME ON WALES Yahoo

by Morgannwg Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:48 pm

wales606 wrote:
Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Morgannwg wrote:
nathan wrote:
wales606 wrote:
100%beefy wrote:currently wales have to win by 15 points to win the 6 Nations...is that unachievable

15pts is the difference,

Wales have to win by 8

England have to win first.....

I like those odds.

As it stands englands pd is 17 better plus 7 from this game.
Wales would have to win by 12?

It was 7 points according to the commentary before this game.
It was 17 before this weekend when Wales won by 10

by Breadvan Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:48 pm

Squeaked a win. Well done Italy. Kick up the arris for England.

by Hood83 Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:48 pm

Garbage. I don't know where to start. Well done Italy, you deserved better.

by Casartelli Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:48 pm

As a neutral, I think rugby was the winner today. Italy were fearless and played some of the most positive rugby of the 6N so far. Fantastic underdog performance but England never really looked like losing.

by bsando Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:48 pm

Wow. What a performance Italy! But well done England, wins a win. 8 points, Wales away in cardiff, will be a good game I think. Good luck both teams Very Happy

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:48 pm

wales606 wrote:
Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
Morgannwg wrote:
nathan wrote:
wales606 wrote:
100%beefy wrote:currently wales have to win by 15 points to win the 6 Nations...is that unachievable

15pts is the difference,

Wales have to win by 8

England have to win first.....

I like those odds.

As it stands englands pd is 17 better plus 7 from this game.
Wales would have to win by 12?

It was 17 before this weekend when Wales won by 10

Ah yeah espn havent updated their table.

Game on next week then!

by sickofwendy Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:49 pm

Poor performance but we won,bring on Wales!!!!!!! boxing

by nathan Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:49 pm

Hood83 wrote:
wales606 wrote:If Italy were in the Lions, I would take the Italian back 3 players over any of the English

Yep. In fact, any of their backs probably

Based only on this game then yeah.

by 100%beefy Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:49 pm

Listen to SCW backtrack!!

by nathan Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:50 pm

glamorganalun wrote:What an interesting final game coming up Wales need to win by 8, not 48 as expected.

Expected by who exactly?

by glamorganalun Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:50 pm

I can't understand how England got away with not supporting their body weight over the tackled player thoughout the game but got away with it.

by Geordie Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:50 pm

Well its another win...played badly and won...ill take that.

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:51 pm

SL needs a slap for thinking he can get away with putting B teamers out rather than tinkering with the areas that have been problematic...mostly the back 3 and the requirement for a proper 8

by nathan Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:51 pm

glamorganalun wrote:I can't understand how England got away with not supporting their body weight over the tackled player thoughout the game but got away with it.

Italy were doing the exact same thing.

by thebluesmancometh Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:52 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:SL needs a slap for thinking he can get away with putting B teamers out rather than tinkering with the areas that have been problematic...mostly the back 3 and the requirement for a proper 8

by whocares Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:52 pm

A draw would have been a fair result. Reckon one half for each team and possession was 50/50 in the end. England ultimately should not have let italy back in the game but those players are still relatively inexperienced.

by nobbled Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:53 pm

England were poor - well done Italy. Wales must be rubbing their hands...

by Duty281 Sun 10 Mar 2013, 4:53 pm

Rubbish from England. Decent first half, with no end product, but the second half was as poor as I've seen England in a long time. They looked a tad complacent, possibly with one eye on the game in Cardiff. Take nothing away from Italy though, they played very well. Perhaps though this was the best thing to happen to England, now there'll be a week of very high intensity training, and there will be no overconfidence/complacency in Cardiff on Saturday. I can't wait.

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