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Post by Duty281 Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:37 pm

First topic message reminder :

England successfully made a great escape in Dunedin, after being 293 behind in the first innings, leaving the series 0-0 with 2 to play. England will take heart from that, New Zealand probably will as well after bowling England out for 167. Wellington is expected to have more swing than Dunedin, and be more suited to the fast bowlers. The weather looks fine for the first 3 days, it's day 4 and 5 that will likely be interrupted by the weather. Both teams are expected to be unchanged. Starts at 21:30 GMT tonight.

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Post by mystiroakey Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:06 pm

in a 3 day match this is a waste of time. KP do what you do best mate

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Post by trebellbobaggins Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:10 pm

Oh dear, poor start on a flat track Trotty. Application needed.

Roakey.. If the rain doesn't come and then we lose because they threw it away I wouldn't be happy. Sensible play needed.

The weather men haven't always got it right.

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Post by Carrotdude Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:15 pm

The weather means this will almost certainly be a draw, unless the pitch looks a lot harder to bat on against our bowlers. Bell and KP need to pick up the pace.

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Post by mystiroakey Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:17 pm

Trebbs we have a solid base dude...

time to whack it

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Post by trebellbobaggins Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:21 pm

Get past 400 and then whack it I reckon.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:31 pm

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Post by mystiroakey Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:34 pm

It is a shame about swanny not in this game. But then maybe NZ are setting up the tracks based on no swan!!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:35 pm

mystiroakey wrote:It is a shame about swanny not in this game. But then maybe NZ are setting up the tracks based on no swan!!

Monty's gonna prove them all wrong Cool
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:38 pm

Awww the poor duck Sad
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Post by mystiroakey Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:42 pm

silly bell. He needs dropping

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:42 pm

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:43 pm

Pieterson survives a chance but Bell out couple of balls later. A real struggle for England this session...

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Post by Hoggy_Bear Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:44 pm

Will we reach 450-500?

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Post by mystiroakey Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:45 pm

550 hoggy

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Post by mystiroakey Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:45 pm

cant keep kp and root down.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:46 pm

It's all starting a bit wrong,

I was uncomfortable will all the assumptions that eng would just make 550 without much effort.. Seemed silly with engs recent batting travails. This shows the jitters are still there.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:56 pm

There's some movement for the spinners and seamers out there today. Jimmy should have a good day
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Post by trebellbobaggins Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:04 pm

This was a good toss to lose.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:06 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:This was a good toss to lose.

They discussed it on commentary yesterday about whether McCullum was hesitant to bat first after the 47 all out debacle in South Africa. It must have played a part in the decision. Because it was a perfect batting day
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Post by trebellbobaggins Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:07 pm

Really was. It's woken up today.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:08 pm

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Post by Hoggy_Bear Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:09 pm

Root still the answer? Very Happy

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:10 pm

Root uprooted. England faltering - third scratchy partnership in a row. Still, at least the match is moving on. England in danger of falling some way short of 400....

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Post by mystiroakey Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:11 pm

root you muggins...


but all I can say is that - when bell gets to 10 he takes 100 balls to do it!


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Post by trebellbobaggins Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:11 pm

Ouch, forget the 550 fantasy tms had yesterday, be lucky to get 400.

Root is a bit of a worry at the mo. needs to get it right,

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:12 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:Ouch, forget the 550 fantasy tms had yesterday, be lucky to get 400.

Root is a bit of a worry at the mo. needs to get it right,

He's a young lad, gonna make mistakes. He's got his head on right, he'll be better for them
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Post by trebellbobaggins Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:13 pm

Our current line up is a much weaker batting one that at the last ashes.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:20 pm

Very scrappy stuff from England atm.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:22 pm

Makes you glad for yesterday. Just hope NZ aren't up for another 470 performance. We're handing them the initiative at the mo but hopefully the pitch will assist us this time,

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Post by mystiroakey Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:25 pm

Not to happy about this to be honest.

The pitch looks flat- But to score you need to whack it, which brings up problems. Bell couldnt get out of first gear and then went due to the pressure of not scoring. Englands pace is quicker therefore they wont need to work as hard..

Swann would have done the biz mind..


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Post by mystiroakey Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:26 pm

Bresnan would have also loved a piece of this.. Southee looks very good on this track

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:28 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Not to happy about this to be honest.

The pitch looks flat- But to score you need to whack it, which brings up problems. Bell couldnt get out of first gear and then went due to the pressure of not scoring. Englands pace is quicker therefore they wont need to work as hard..

Swann would have done the biz mind..


Don't worry Mysti, Prior ain't gonna hang about
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Post by mystiroakey Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:32 pm

Priors not suited to this sort of stuff.He is not a good odi bat.

NZ are set up to there strengths. They are very good at restricting runs, and can score quick of quicks from the better sides..

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:34 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Priors not suited to this sort of stuff.He is not a good odi bat.

We're not playing ODI's mysti! He's a very good attacking batsman in Tests.
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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:36 pm

Three boundaries in last couple of overs before lunch will put England in somewhat better spirits. But certainly NZ's session.

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Post by mystiroakey Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:37 pm

That was a pretty lame session tbh!

I hope i can stay awake to watch more though.

Yep Prior is a good test bat. But NZ have that medium pace style that is good at restricting scoring. I thought it might pose a problem. Probally totally wrong though.

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Post by guildfordbat Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:58 pm

Just back from a Thursday night pub session with a few of the boys and watching highlights on SKY. Bit confused as Gus Fraser appears to have picked up a shedload of wickets! Ale Shocked

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:01 am

guildfordbat wrote:Just back from a Thursday night pub session with a few of the boys and watching highlights on SKY. Bit confused as Gus Fraser appears to have picked up a shedload of wickets! Ale Shocked

Few too many of these Guildford Ale

You're imagining things Wink
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Post by guildfordbat Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:10 am

Olly - Sarah Taylor is being interviewed now by Nick Knight - definitely too many Ale s. Don't tell me she's playing!

Sobering up a bit, I would guess a poor morning performance from England. I always thought talk of 550 seemed very optimistic.

Also, and I hope you're reading Mysti, by all means listen to the forecast but we should have set out to play the opposition and not what the weather might be in two days' time.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:32 am

Oh Kevin!!! With that I'm off to bed!

I hope to awake to a Jimmy haul of wickets with some from Mr Finn and Mr Broad! Smile
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Post by guildfordbat Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:40 am

374-7, Pietersen and Broad now back in the hutch.

400 looks some way off with three number 11s in the line up ....

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:44 am

I'm up!

Tuned back in for a bit, Prior playing beautifully, picking up some very useful runs
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Post by alfie Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:00 am

guildfordbat wrote:374-7, Pietersen and Broad now back in the hutch.

400 looks some way off with three number 11s in the line up ....

Finn must have heard that Smile

After 20 plus , 50 plus and now 24no he is not looking much like a number 11 in NZ...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:03 am

Well you talked that up Alfie! Wink Finn goes for 24!!!
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:04 am

Jimmy obviously wants that nightwatchman job back! First ball, beautiful cover drive for 4!
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Post by alfie Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:04 am

Oh bother...now I've jinxed him ! Out for 24 ...

But no matter , partnership was 83 at a good rate , Prior still there , 457/8

...best the game moves on quickly anyway. Can only win if the bowlers do their stuff well , so this score should be OK.
Be nice to get it up close to 500 but I don't want to be greedy...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:11 am

Southee bowls 32 overs, 78-0, very well bowled

Williamson comes on and bowls a couple of tiddlers and gets 2 wickets!

Funny old game
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Post by alfie Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:12 am

Olly wrote:Well you talked that up Alfie! Wink Finn goes for 24!!!

Yeah , sorry , Olly ...but I didn't want to tire him out for bowling Smile

All gone now so 465 it is ...really don't mind that ...if we can't bowl them out well south of that we are unlikely to get a win anyway.

Would have liked Prior to get 100 but well played him anyway clap

Maybe Monty fancies a bowl , he didn't waste much time with the bat...

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Post by FerN Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:37 am

Hmm, those two Broad just picked up really puts England in the driving seat.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:28 am

That worked out very well tbh.

I was wondering if the pitch was actually pretty tough to bat on or england were just messing up. There is clearly something there for the bolwers.. and if this game is over in 3- getting 3 wickets of them has given us a shot., But the follow on is a neccesity

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