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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sat 27 Apr 2013, 9:04 pm

wilder has called out tyson fury.


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Post by azania Sat 27 Apr 2013, 9:09 pm

Fury is th main man. Wilder is ambitious and wants the best.

Fury to KO him in 3.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 27 Apr 2013, 9:10 pm

Wilder has to wait his turn...........

Apparently at least ten cruiserweights have called Fury out...........

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Post by hampo17 Sat 27 Apr 2013, 9:13 pm

Fury can't avoid the right hand and Wilder has a sledgehammer of a right hand.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sat 27 Apr 2013, 9:13 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Wilder has to wait his turn...........

Apparently at least ten cruiserweights have called Fury out...........

And my Nan

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Post by Cast a Shadow Sat 27 Apr 2013, 9:14 pm

As little as we've found out tonight, I think Wilder would knock Fury through the ropes and into Fat Mick's lap - probably within 2 rounds.

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Post by kingraf Sat 27 Apr 2013, 9:16 pm

Im 5'10-11. 184 lbs. Box three nights a week. When either wants a step-up in competition, direct them my way...
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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Sat 27 Apr 2013, 9:20 pm

Cast a Shadow wrote:As little as we've found out tonight, I think Wilder would knock Fury through the ropes and into Fat Mick's lap - probably within 2 rounds.

Haha that would be nice but am not now sure how good his chin is. He would still be outweighed by fury by a good two stone. It would be interesting to see

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Post by Mr Bounce Sat 27 Apr 2013, 9:22 pm

Double knockdown. Fury will punch himself in the face and the wind of the passing uppercut will blow Wilder over.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sat 27 Apr 2013, 9:24 pm

fury has a weak chin and wilder has a lot of power. but if fury boxes smart he could win. 50/50 in my eyes.

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Post by Mr Bounce Sat 27 Apr 2013, 9:27 pm

Fury won't fight a puncher. He gets floored by Cruisers and no-hopers...

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Post by Cast a Shadow Sat 27 Apr 2013, 9:29 pm

Think if Wilder connected with something like his best shot it would be game over, KO2 for my money...

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sat 27 Apr 2013, 9:31 pm

I think Haye punches harder

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Post by hampo17 Sat 27 Apr 2013, 9:32 pm

victorgarco wrote:I think Haye punches harder

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Post by lfc91 Sat 27 Apr 2013, 9:33 pm

Depends what fury turns up. Reckless fury would, for me get ko'd in the first half. Mainly because fury has been put down twice by the overhand right, a punch that if nothing else, wilder can throw with great power! On the other hand a smart fury could box to a UD.

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Post by rob-glos Sat 27 Apr 2013, 9:38 pm

Still no idea if Wilder can actually box... Although he must have something because he got an Olympic medal!

He can swing like Babe Ruth though... Doubt Fury can keep out of the way of those right hands for 12 rounds.

Be interesting to see whether Wilder can take a punch though.

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Post by azania Sat 27 Apr 2013, 9:52 pm

Wilder is the real deal. Fury is better. KO2 or 3.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sat 27 Apr 2013, 10:00 pm

hampo171 wrote:
victorgarco wrote:I think Haye punches harder

Would you like us to arrange a test day for you on behalf of 606v2?

That would be great, I can sit down and watch them both punch you and based on which fighters punch makes you cry the most we can say has the hardest punch Smile

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Post by azania Sat 27 Apr 2013, 10:00 pm

victorgarco wrote:
hampo171 wrote:
victorgarco wrote:I think Haye punches harder

Would you like us to arrange a test day for you on behalf of 606v2?

That would be great, I can sit down and watch them both punch you and based on which fighters punch makes you cry the most we can say has the hardest punch Smile

Laugh Laugh

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Post by hampo17 Sat 27 Apr 2013, 10:02 pm

Are you willing to wait a few days for the result? Not sure I'd be conscious that's all Laugh

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Post by hogey Sat 27 Apr 2013, 11:23 pm

Wilder by KO inside of 2 rounds, Fury wont go anywhere near him though.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sun 28 Apr 2013, 3:20 am

Fury will gob off about him over the coming weeks and wil then announce a fight with johnny nelson.

It's good though because wilder would simply crush his Irish skull in. (probably do him a favour)

Wilder KO within 1-2 rounds.


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Post by Makaveli Sun 28 Apr 2013, 1:03 pm

Wilder in 3 rounds, once he connects fury wont be able to take those power shots

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Post by Makaveli Sun 28 Apr 2013, 1:28 pm

Furys not interested

http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/sport/story/204658.html

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun 28 Apr 2013, 2:07 pm

Makaveli wrote:Furys not interested

http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/sport/story/204658.html

tyson is scared

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Post by azania Sun 28 Apr 2013, 2:25 pm

All roads lead to Fury. He brings the excitement and the $$$$. No wonder all are calling him out. All want to make a name for themselves by stepping in the ring with him.

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Post by J.Benson II Sun 28 Apr 2013, 2:45 pm

Too early to predict a outcome between Fury and Wilder. Wilder did what he had to do against Audley and I'd imagine Fury would have done the same to Audley.
Wilder has the power to take Fury out but I'd like to see how Wilder reacts when he takes a step up in class. Could easily end up going the same way of Mitchell and Price.

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Post by eddyfightfan Sun 28 Apr 2013, 3:15 pm

i'd fancy fury (we've all seen price looking great but getting stopped at the first real hurdle), at least he has been down, been hurt, gone the distance. he is more experienced than wilder despite having less fights. how will wilder do when someone hits him back? i think there is a reason his best fight is harrison after 20 pro fights- he is (to quote az) CHINNY

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun 28 Apr 2013, 3:23 pm

eddyfightfan wrote:i'd fancy fury (we've all seen price looking great but getting stopped at the first real hurdle), at least he has been down, been hurt, gone the distance. he is more experienced than wilder despite having less fights. how will wilder do when someone hits him back? i think there is a reason his best fight is harrison after 20 pro fights- he is (to quote az) CHINNY

28-0 with 28 kos.

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Post by eddyfightfan Sun 28 Apr 2013, 3:42 pm

why is somebody 27(27)-0 stepping up in quality to audley harrison (who was done in 1 by price) aged 41?

says to me his promoter is worried about fight anyone with a pulse

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Post by davidemore Sun 28 Apr 2013, 3:46 pm

I'd fancy Fury to be too smart for him.

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Post by Adam D Sun 28 Apr 2013, 4:20 pm

eddyfightfan wrote:why is somebody 27(27)-0 stepping up in quality to audley harrison (who was done in 1 by price) aged 41?

says to me his promoter is worried about fight anyone with a pulse

Those 28 fights have been in 4 and a bit years. Its close to 6 fights a year.

Yes they might have been bums mostly but maybe that is his thing - learn in the ring as you go.

To say he is chinny is crazy - no one at this point knows. He has done what he has needed to do so far and good luck to him.

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Sun 28 Apr 2013, 4:22 pm

davidemore wrote:I'd fancy Fury to be too smart for him.

If he hasn't realised that dropping your left hand isn't the way to go then I don't hold out much hope for him being too smart.

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Post by Guest Sun 28 Apr 2013, 6:10 pm

Lumbering_Jack wrote:
davidemore wrote:I'd fancy Fury to be too smart for him.

I don't hold out much hope for him being too smart.

Wilder KO 1

Haha.

It's a fight I'd love to see.

We still don't know a great deal about Wilder but my gut instinct says he'd win. It's alright for Tyson to fight with tactics against Kevin Johnson but Wilder would have far more intent and athleticism to land his shots.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Sun 28 Apr 2013, 7:07 pm

Wilder KO for me. Fury is too vulnerable in defense and Wilder is too big ad aggressive for him to man handle

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Post by Strongback Sun 28 Apr 2013, 7:43 pm

I'm not getting too excited about Wilder yet. He lands one right hand on Audley...........what does that tell us?

I took nothing from that fight.


For all I know Fury could box the ears off him. Let him take on a cute fighter like Thompson, if he can smash up that kind of a fighter I will start to be believe.

Wilder only had something like 30 amateur fights before winning the Olympic bronze. This guy has very little experience and has never had to tough it out. There's a reason he's been fed a convey line of D-Grade fighters. Who needs to fight 27 stiffs before looking to make a small step up that wasn't really a step up.

I'm not reading too much into the wild swinging Wilder did when he hit Audley with the first big shot as he might just have got over excited.

Bottom line the guys got no experience. Has a way to go before he rates alongside Fury's exploits.






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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 28 Apr 2013, 7:47 pm

Strongback, Audley was a step up, a genuine step up. Audley was in Prizefighter beating the guys who beat the guys that Wilder was beating. (If that makes any sense) I would say that the fight was a jump up of around 2 levels or so to what he had previously been beating.

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Post by manos de piedra Sun 28 Apr 2013, 8:46 pm

It might not take much more than Wilders "bombs away" attack to put Fury out for the count. Would like to see him in with someone with a pulse though.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun 28 Apr 2013, 8:49 pm

manos de piedra wrote:It might not take much more than Wilders "bombs away" attack to put Fury out for the count. Would like to see him in with someone with a pulse though.

i agree, looking at how easily Cunningham got to him and decked him. Same with Pajckic, and Chisora, he just doesn't seem to be able to handle somebody pressuring him at all. Someone, quick, incredibly big and powerful with genuine athletic qualities and some way in the way of boxing skill could easily bowl him out of there early. Its not liek Fury has given the impression he is iron chinned.

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Post by Mr Bounce Mon 29 Apr 2013, 9:15 am

I for one would love to see Wilder fight McCall.

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Post by Guest Mon 29 Apr 2013, 9:26 am

You'd like to see him fight the 45+ (that's his age and the number of anti-psychotic drugs he takes daily) Oliver McCall? Great, perhaps he could fight Holyfield the week after.

Wilder is as crude as they come and anyone with any skill set will counter the life out of him. He's been hit by some real club fighters so I think higher eschelon fighters will take him to the cleaners

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Post by Mr Bounce Mon 29 Apr 2013, 9:49 am

Ha ha actually thought he was a bit younger than that. I meant it purely on the ideal that McCall has plenty of boxing nous & ring generalship plus a chin forged from 240lbs of steel.

Even at 45+ I think McCall would destroy Wilder, much like the way he decked Lewis.

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Post by dragonbreath Mon 29 Apr 2013, 12:45 pm

J.Benson II wrote:Too early to predict a outcome between Fury and Wilder. Wilder did what he had to do against Audley and I'd imagine Fury would have done the same to Audley.
Wilder has the power to take Fury out but I'd like to see how Wilder reacts when he takes a step up in class. Could easily end up going the same way of Mitchell and Price.


Up in class? chin Did you see Fury's last fight? Headscratch

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Post by jack-rabbitpunch Mon 29 Apr 2013, 1:38 pm

having only seen wilder fight once (for about 80 seconds), and having watched nearly all of fury's fights, its pretty obvious that fury has no hope! He can box against someone who doesnt attack, a la johnson, but agaisnt someone who actually wants to fight, like rogan, mcdermott etc, he will start to open up and as we have seen, anyone with a fairly decent right can connect!

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Post by azania Mon 29 Apr 2013, 1:48 pm

The under-estimation of Fury continues. In 3 fights he will win a world strap. Probably lose to Wilder but Wilder has the potential to be the very best. It's not like he will get pancaked by an old, fat, in for the payday has been who was never any good in the first place.

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Post by jack-rabbitpunch Mon 29 Apr 2013, 1:53 pm

No one under-estimates fury, he is simply not that good!

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Post by J.Benson II Mon 29 Apr 2013, 2:18 pm

dragonbreath wrote:
J.Benson II wrote:Too early to predict a outcome between Fury and Wilder. Wilder did what he had to do against Audley and I'd imagine Fury would have done the same to Audley.
Wilder has the power to take Fury out but I'd like to see how Wilder reacts when he takes a step up in class. Could easily end up going the same way of Mitchell and Price.


Up in class? chin Did you see Fury's last fight? Headscratch

Cunningham would be a big step up for Wilder.
People can criticise Fury for having some difficulty with Cunningham but in his previous fight, Cunningham lost a controversial SD against a former HW title challenger in Adamek. At CW, Cunningham stopped Marco Huck (a guy who gave Povetkin all he can handle). At over 6ft and a lean 220lbs, he's not all that small either.

Lets not forget that America's other hope - Seth Mitchell, was destroyed by a lesser ex-CW in Banks.

Audley is a shockingly bad boxer who was never going to offer any resistance against Wilder, and yet he's probably the best opponent Wilder has faced.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Mon 29 Apr 2013, 2:43 pm

Both are chinny (wilder has been down I think a couple times), both are unproven on thw world stage and I don't rate either but I'd watch it as one of them will be getting stopped early

Atm i'll go for Wilder, no reason other than his overhand right is so much more powerful than Cunninghams (who had a poor record at cruiser) who was smacking fury around the ring and Fury doesn't hit nearly as hard

Fury won't take it though, he's happy staying away from big punchers. He has already avoided Price and then rubbished bouts against Haye (who HE called out) and Wlad so thwn why would he fight Wilder

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Post by huw Mon 29 Apr 2013, 2:47 pm

azania wrote:The under-estimation of Fury continues. In 3 fights he will win a world strap. Probably lose to Wilder but Wilder has the potential to be the very best. It's not like he will get pancaked by an old, fat, in for the payday has been who was never any good in the first place.

He did however arguably lose to McDermott first time around.

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Post by azania Mon 29 Apr 2013, 5:10 pm

huw wrote:
azania wrote:The under-estimation of Fury continues. In 3 fights he will win a world strap. Probably lose to Wilder but Wilder has the potential to be the very best. It's not like he will get pancaked by an old, fat, in for the payday has been who was never any good in the first place.

He did however arguably lose to McDermott first time around.

An 8 fight novice. What happened in the rematch when Tyson had a tad more experience? I suppose Fat Mac declined as a fighter then, only to be in peak condition for the Price fight.

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