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Post by rainbow-warrior Thu May 02, 2013 12:42 pm

According to the WRU:

The fixture schedule also confirms that Wales will play two pool matches at the stadium in Cardiff during the tournament.
The announcement has given Welsh rugby fans even more to celebrate after a series of massive rugby achievements in recent months.

Supporters are already celebrating:

* The inclusion of fifteen players in the British and Irish Lions squad
* A Welsh head coach and captain for the touring Lions party
* Seven coaching and backroom staff in the party as well
* Another RBS 6 Nations championship victory

The Millennium Stadium is the only venue outside England for the Rugby World Cup 2015 tournament. The complete schedule for the Millennium Stadium is:

19 Sep 2015 Ireland v America 1
20 Sep 2015 Wales v Play-off Winner
23 Sep 2015 Australia v Oceania 1
01 Oct 2015 Wales v Oceania 1
02 Oct 2015 NZ v Euorpe 1
11 Oct 2015 France v Ireland
17 Oct 2015 Quarter-final
18 Oct 2015 Quarter-final
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Post by Effervescing Elephant Thu May 02, 2013 1:15 pm

I think it's brilliant that we get to have the amazing atmosphere of the MS at the world cup. A full MS is the best advert for rugby. thumbsup
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Post by RubyGuby Thu May 02, 2013 1:17 pm

Who are we likely to play in the final thumbsup

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Post by Biltong Thu May 02, 2013 1:20 pm

Hopefully you play SA, we win there a LOT. Whistle
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Post by Guest Thu May 02, 2013 1:25 pm

Great to see the Mods joining in with the WUMming!

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?!

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Post by Biltong Thu May 02, 2013 1:27 pm

No Wum, it is the truth.

How you must see that post though is to look at a Jeff Dunham video, he has that purple little puppet, don't know his name, but when he says A LOT, it is hilarious.
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Post by Guest Thu May 02, 2013 1:46 pm

WUMs can be the truth too Biltong, you know that! In fact, most WUMs have an element of truth, and that's what does the winding up bit of 'WUM'.

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Post by Biltong Thu May 02, 2013 1:47 pm

Mate, you need to get a sense of humour, you also need to assess from whence it comes.
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu May 02, 2013 1:50 pm

rainbow-warrior wrote:According to the WRU:

The fixture schedule also confirms that Wales will play two pool matches at the stadium in Cardiff during the tournament.
The announcement has given Welsh rugby fans even more to celebrate after a series of massive rugby achievements in recent months.

20 Sep 2015 Wales v Play-off Winner
01 Oct 2015 Wales v Oceania 1

I'm Welsh and a rugby fan, and the rugby fan in me isn't celebrating this one little bit.

Only the hosts should have home advantage. How is this fair on our opponents in those two games?

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Post by rainbow-warrior Fri May 03, 2013 6:28 am

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:
rainbow-warrior wrote:According to the WRU:

The fixture schedule also confirms that Wales will play two pool matches at the stadium in Cardiff during the tournament.
The announcement has given Welsh rugby fans even more to celebrate after a series of massive rugby achievements in recent months.

20 Sep 2015 Wales v Play-off Winner
01 Oct 2015 Wales v Oceania 1

I'm Welsh and a rugby fan, and the rugby fan in me isn't celebrating this one little bit.

Only the hosts should have home advantage. How is this fair on our opponents in those two games?
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Fri May 03, 2013 7:57 am

Didn't fancy answering the question?

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Post by rainbow-warrior Fri May 03, 2013 8:06 am

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:Didn't fancy answering the question?

Why? As I see it you are in a very very VERY small minority. I do not ever see any other COUNTRY complaining. Anyway it was not the intention of the thread.
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Fri May 03, 2013 8:10 am

What was the intention of the thread?

Let's say we get drawn in a pool with New Zealand and France for the World Cup in Japan, but have to play New Zealand in Auckland. Would you be happy with that?

It would never happen, of course; only the 'lesser' sides get treated like that.

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Post by rainbow-warrior Fri May 03, 2013 8:18 am

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:What was the intention of the thread?

Let's say we get drawn in a pool with New Zealand and France for the World Cup in Japan, but have to play New Zealand in Auckland. Would you be happy with that?

It would never happen, of course; only the 'lesser' sides get treated like that.

OK you got me the intention of the thread was to wind you up and nothing what so ever to do with the fixtures in Wales which was at the time of posting breaking news.

Anyway we are a poor old Third Tier nation remember.
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Post by Biltong Fri May 03, 2013 8:20 am

Come on guys, it is early Friday morning, let's just all play nice today please.
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Fri May 03, 2013 8:27 am

I don't have a problem with the Millennium Stadium hosting matches; I have a problem with us, non-hosts, getting home advantage. It's not fair on our opponents. That's it.

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Post by rainbow-warrior Fri May 03, 2013 8:35 am

Biltong wrote:Come on guys, it is early Friday morning, let's just all play nice today please.

It's 7-30 PM Friday night for me, as it happens I have better things to do and I also find it it a totally pointless point that has been picked up on Smile
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Post by Guest Fri May 03, 2013 8:41 am

Biltong wrote:Mate, you need to get a sense of humour, you also need to assess from whence it comes.


Biltong, I think you're missing the sense of humour in my posts! Hence my use of "!" !!! It was me who was joking. Lighten up!

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Fri May 03, 2013 8:45 am

Perhaps you only think it's pointless because we're expected to beat the two sides we'll be playing. But doesn't that make it worse? The odds are stacked against these sides as it is.

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Post by Biltong Fri May 03, 2013 8:45 am

Good on Griff. thumbsup
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Post by Scrumpy Fri May 03, 2013 8:58 am

I haven't heard any Aussies moaning yet. playing against two home teams they have a right to moan.
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Fri May 03, 2013 8:59 am

We're not playing the Aussies in Cardiff.

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Post by Scrumpy Fri May 03, 2013 9:00 am

But you still get the advantage of two home games. Very Happy
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Post by Guest Fri May 03, 2013 9:00 am

VictorU3 wrote:I haven't heard any Aussies moaning yet. playing against two home teams they have a right to moan.


Only playing the bottom 2 seeds in the group.

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Post by Guest Fri May 03, 2013 9:04 am

I agree with Luckless though. Use the stadium by all means. After all it's closer to London than Manchester, Liverpool, the rest of the North, Birmingham (possibly?), etc. But I don't see the tournament/competition rationale in giving a non-host side home advantage too, even if it is against so called 'minnows'. That's not what a world cup is about.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Fri May 03, 2013 9:14 am

Griff, it's worse that it's against 'minnows'. They're up against it as it is.

You can bet that their status was taken into account when they allocated the fixtures.

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Post by Scrumpy Fri May 03, 2013 9:15 am

Western Samoa were minnows in 91!
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Post by Scrumpy Fri May 03, 2013 10:11 am

wow, that killed it. Wink
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Fri May 03, 2013 10:17 am

They'd have won more comfortably in '91 if we'd been playing them at a neutral venue!

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Post by Effervescing Elephant Fri May 03, 2013 10:18 am

Do you think the 'minnows' would rather play Wales in a half empty Brighton community stadium or would they rather experience a packed MS with all the atmosphere that goes with it? Not to be rude but these teams are here for the experience, they've already won their world cups by just qualifying. Give them the best experience possible.
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Post by nathan Fri May 03, 2013 10:20 am

Effervescing Elephant wrote:Do you think the 'minnows' would rather play Wales in a half empty Brighton community stadium or would they rather experience a packed MS with all the atmosphere that goes with it? Not to be rude but these teams are here for the experience, they've already won their world cups by just qualifying. Give them the best experience possible.

yeah because upsets never happen....

I think the "minnows" priority is to win.

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Post by Effervescing Elephant Fri May 03, 2013 10:26 am

Fiji are capable of beating Wales (or England for that matter) anywhere in a one off game, why not give them the stage to show what they've got? The other qualifier doesn't stand a chance no matter where they play. A busting full MS is a better advert for rugby than a half empty stadium elsewhere. We just need to make sure the MS is full, otherwise...
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Fri May 03, 2013 10:32 am

Effervescing Elephant wrote:Fiji are capable of beating Wales (or England for that matter) anywhere in a one off game, why not give them the stage to show what they've got?

Because giving them a stage which happens to be Wales's home ground makes their task harder!

Effervescing Elephant wrote:The other qualifier doesn't stand a chance no matter where they play. A busting full MS is a better advert for rugby than a half empty stadium elsewhere.

And putting underdogs at an even greater disadvantage by giving extra help to one of the big boys, is that a good advert for rugby?

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Post by Effervescing Elephant Fri May 03, 2013 10:36 am

This competition is not about making it fair for lower tiered teams and anyone who thinks that is naive. This competition is about wringing as much money out of the group games as possible before having a star studded set of finals. The best way to get more cash out of the group games is to rely on the fact that Welsh fans will come in droves to watch their team on the big stage (the MS). Ticket sales would suffer massively as the pink hat brigade isn't interested in coming to Sandy Park or Elland road. Rugby needs the money, the minnows need the money generated by the Welsh fan base simple as that.
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Fri May 03, 2013 10:40 am

And to hell with principles.

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Post by Effervescing Elephant Fri May 03, 2013 10:50 am

The principles of the world cup are to expand rugby around the world. This is in line with those principles.
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Fri May 03, 2013 10:57 am

Surely part of that expansion is to make as many nations as competetive as possible?

Remember the last World Cup, where the established nations were given twice as long to recover between group stage matches compared to the 'lesser' countries. How can they close the gap when we put obstacles in their way?

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Post by rainbow-warrior Fri May 03, 2013 11:38 am

Effervescing Elephant wrote:This competition is not about making it fair for lower tiered teams and anyone who thinks that is naive. This competition is about wringing as much money out of the group games as possible before having a star studded set of finals. The best way to get more cash out of the group games is to rely on the fact that Welsh fans will come in droves to watch their team on the big stage (the MS). Ticket sales would suffer massively as the pink hat brigade isn't interested in coming to Sandy Park or Elland road. Rugby needs the money, the minnows need the money generated by the Welsh fan base simple as that.

Sorry pal but all very wrong. Welsh supporters travel more than any other UK or European Nation in Union, if not the world. That was also the case in NZ in 2005 when the Welsh out numbered the rest in support. As for the pathetic "Pink Hat Brigade", give it a rest, did you see the 'Nigel's' dressed in silver foil with swords recently? Answer YES.
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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Fri May 03, 2013 11:44 am

Effervescing Elephant wrote:The principles of the world cup are to expand rugby around the world. This is in line with those principles.

And there was me thinking that the main objective was to make money and reinforce the glass ceiling.

Doh

Silly me!

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Post by Duty281 Fri May 03, 2013 12:50 pm

Where's the guy that wanted England-Wales at the MS? Not happening. Yahoo

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Post by RubyGuby Fri May 03, 2013 12:53 pm

Duty281 wrote:Where's that guy that wanted England-Wales at the MS? Not happening. Yahoo

It was an open invitation with no malice meant - However; following recent events he now understands your reaction and reluctance far better and apologises profusly thumbsup

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Post by Biltong Fri May 03, 2013 12:58 pm

Duty281 wrote:Where's the guy that wanted England-Wales at the MS? Not happening. Yahoo
Easy tiger.
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Post by wanderingdragon Fri May 03, 2013 1:00 pm

Duty281 wrote:Where's the guy that wanted England-Wales at the MS? Not happening. Yahoo

Yawn!

And you wonder why everyone wants the England to lose when you use obscenities at the other home nations for no reason. It will be very funny when you fail to make it out of the group in your own world cup!

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Post by Biltong Fri May 03, 2013 1:01 pm

Gentlemen I had to clean up three posts now, next one goes to the bin for 48 hours.
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Post by Duty281 Fri May 03, 2013 10:25 pm

wanderingdragon wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Where's the guy that wanted England-Wales at the MS? Not happening. Yahoo

Yawn!

And you wonder why everyone wants the England to lose when you use obscenities at the other home nations for no reason. It will be very funny when you fail to make it out of the group in your own world cup!

Jealously I suspect.

Biltong wrote:Gentlemen I had to clean up three posts now, next one goes to the bin for 48 hours.

Sorry.

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Post by wanderingdragon Sat May 04, 2013 6:02 am

Duty281 wrote:
wanderingdragon wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Where's the guy that wanted England-Wales at the MS? Not happening. Yahoo

Yawn!

And you wonder why everyone wants the England to lose when you use obscenities at the other home nations for no reason. It will be very funny when you fail to make it out of the group in your own world cup!

Jealously I suspect.

Biltong wrote:Gentlemen I had to clean up three posts now, next one goes to the bin for 48 hours.

Sorry.

If you think it is jealousy then you should change your user name to Clueless!

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Post by dallym Sat May 04, 2013 6:22 am

Fiji have had experience in humiliating the Welsh at a RWC. With the passion of the MS to inspire them surely they'd fancy their chances of another upset

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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat May 04, 2013 10:10 am

bum bum bum...

And another thread bites the dust aaaaa!!!

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Post by Dontheman Sat May 04, 2013 4:06 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:Perhaps you only think it's pointless because we're expected to beat the two sides we'll be playing. But doesn't that make it worse? The odds are stacked against these sides as it is.
You're not that Welsh-Samoan guy I met at the MS Samoa game are you? Oh

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Post by The Saint Sat May 04, 2013 4:25 pm

dallym wrote:Fiji have had experience in humiliating the Welsh at a RWC. With the passion of the MS to inspire them surely they'd fancy their chances of another upset

Where as in the most recent RWC it was the Welsh that humiliated Fiji 66 points to nil, and a lot of those guys will be there in 2015 tournament. Did that slip your mind?

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