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Post by Duty281 Thu 09 May 2013, 3:19 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22462525

BT Sport 1 and 2 will be free to BT Broadband customers. That is quite a lot of sport, including 38 live Premier Games. Quite incredible move, and might break the near-monopoly of Sky Sports. Hats off to BT for that.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 09 May 2013, 4:41 pm

So if you have BT Broadband, you get the BT Sport channels free?

Quality!
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Post by Duty281 Thu 09 May 2013, 4:42 pm

http://www.bt.com/sport/3-ways-to-watch-bt-sport.html

I believe that is correct Olly, might force Sky Sports into a rethink.


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Post by GSC Thu 09 May 2013, 4:46 pm

The Sky monopoly will never be broken.
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Post by DJ Legless Fri 10 May 2013, 12:00 am

This smells of another itv digital to me. Hopefully I'm wrong but as I've been aware there has been an awful lot of money spent just to acquire British ESPN.

Least its being given free to broadband customers so no worries from me at the moment.

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Post by Guest Fri 10 May 2013, 4:04 pm

i cant see it affecting sky in the long run to be honest..

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Post by NickisBHAFC Thu 30 May 2013, 11:26 pm

Why can't everyone just get Sky.

Its cheap and class. Couldn't live without it.

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Post by Guest Thu 30 May 2013, 11:57 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:Why can't everyone just get Sky.

Its cheap and class. Couldn't live without it.
£100 a month for all the channels isn't cheap, it's extortionate! BT Vision is only £12 a month and I get all the channels I want bar Sky Sports News, which has gone massively downhill the last 2-3 years anyway.

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Post by Ent Fri 31 May 2013, 1:21 am

What package are you looking at? Costs half that for sports and Internet...

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Post by Guest Fri 31 May 2013, 9:16 am

It's what my parents pay, they have everything I have with BT but pay about £60 more per month. All they get is movie channels (I have DVDs) and the sports channels (MOTD covers that).

BT is a massive company, has a rich history of doing things the right way, and has proven time and time again that they succeed when putting their efforts into something. I think this will be the downfall of Sky's monopoly.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Fri 31 May 2013, 12:36 pm

For everything we get for Sky at £50 a month i find bluddy cheap IMO.

£50 a month is hardly a huge huge amount of money. Also i get everything accept from Sky Movies. But if i wanted to watch a Movie i would just rent one or go to the cinema.

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Post by Ent Fri 31 May 2013, 12:44 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:It's what my parents pay, they have everything I have with BT but pay about £60 more per month. All they get is movie channels (I have DVDs) and the sports channels (MOTD covers that).

BT is a massive company, has a rich history of doing things the right way, and has proven time and time again that they succeed when putting their efforts into something. I think this will be the downfall of Sky's monopoly.

Motd isn't really the same as 4 dedicated hd sports channels is it...

Sky are a massive company and have a better track record than bt who have made this move as they are haemorraghing phone and broadband customers to sky, virgin etc

Sky broadband is actually cheaper than bt, which is why I changed to them.

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Post by Guest Fri 31 May 2013, 12:54 pm

We have BT Broadband but took them up on their offer of getting Sky Sports 1 and 2 for £12 a month (wife and I were spending more than that in the pub everytime there was a Super Sunday). Unsurprisingly, the £12 has since gone up to £20 a month (but it's still cheaper than an afternoon's drinking at the local).

We're wondering whether or not to keep the Sky aspect as we can still afford it but hope that they'd be showing different matches to BT Sport.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Fri 31 May 2013, 1:20 pm

Also BT Sport will suck.

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Post by Ent Fri 31 May 2013, 7:01 pm

DAVE667 wrote:We have BT Broadband but took them up on their offer of getting Sky Sports 1 and 2 for £12 a month (wife and I were spending more than that in the pub everytime there was a Super Sunday). Unsurprisingly, the £12 has since gone up to £20 a month (but it's still cheaper than an afternoon's drinking at the local).

We're wondering whether or not to keep the Sky aspect as we can still afford it but hope that they'd be showing different matches to BT Sport.

I believe BT have taken ESPN's old coverage, SKY hold 5/6 packages - BT might have a game every other week.

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Post by Hulking_up Sat 01 Jun 2013, 12:42 am

I can't find the tv advert on youtube but the ad i saw a couple of hours ago (not the Jake one) said it's only free for the first year.
Have to keep an eye and ear out for it when it comes on again.

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Post by Ent Sat 01 Jun 2013, 12:47 am

Hulking_up wrote:I can't find the tv advert on youtube but the ad i saw a couple of hours ago (not the Jake one) said it's only free for the first year.
Have to keep an eye and ear out for it when it comes on again.

That's bt going out of business then, good effort.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 01 Jun 2013, 1:36 pm

This whole thing is going to end in a Disaster. Sky should just have all Prem games, since there the best and no other Sports coverage can compare to them.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 01 Jun 2013, 1:39 pm

Ent wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:We have BT Broadband but took them up on their offer of getting Sky Sports 1 and 2 for £12 a month (wife and I were spending more than that in the pub everytime there was a Super Sunday). Unsurprisingly, the £12 has since gone up to £20 a month (but it's still cheaper than an afternoon's drinking at the local).

We're wondering whether or not to keep the Sky aspect as we can still afford it but hope that they'd be showing different matches to BT Sport.

I believe BT have taken ESPN's old coverage, SKY hold 5/6 packages - BT might have a game every other week.

BT have 38 games, so one every week!
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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 01 Jun 2013, 1:46 pm

Probably the ESPN Saturday 5:30 kick off game ill imagine.


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Post by Duty281 Sat 01 Jun 2013, 2:41 pm

I think BT have the Saturday lunchtime kick-offs whilst Sky have nabbed the Saturday evening games. BT have 18 first pick matches so will get some top quality Premiership games, unlike the dross that ESPN often had.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 01 Jun 2013, 5:51 pm

First Pick?

Please don't tell me there going to get the huge huge games that would be stupid!

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Post by GSC Sat 01 Jun 2013, 5:58 pm

They don't.
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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat 01 Jun 2013, 5:59 pm

Fantastic news

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Post by Duty281 Sat 01 Jun 2013, 6:38 pm

They will get some of the 'huge huge games'. Let's at least give them a chance.

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Post by Guest Sat 01 Jun 2013, 6:56 pm

Do they have the FA Cup also?

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Post by Duty281 Sat 01 Jun 2013, 7:12 pm

They have the same rights to the FA Cup as ESPN currently do, so yes. They also wish to expand on that:

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/broadcasters/bt-sport-to-bid-for-fa-cup-rights/5054801.article

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Post by GSC Sat 01 Jun 2013, 7:16 pm

Sky pay the big money for the big games.
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Post by Duty281 Sat 01 Jun 2013, 7:31 pm

Yep and they've lost 18 big games so hard luck for them.

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Post by Guest Sat 01 Jun 2013, 7:33 pm

So in other words blockbuster matches like Man Utd v Man City and Arsenal v Chelsea are not guaranteed Sky games now?

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Post by Duty281 Sat 01 Jun 2013, 7:38 pm

FreekShow wrote:So in other words blockbuster matches like Man Utd v Man City and Arsenal v Chelsea are not guaranteed Sky games now?

http://www.totalfootballmag.com/features/premier-league-features/bt-enter-the-live-football-arena/

"The packages BT won are mainly for Saturday lunchtime matches, including the first match of each season and midweek offerings.

Included in the deal are 18 first pick games, which means that Sky have also lost the exclusive deal they have had of all the big head-to-head encounters such as Manchester United’s showdowns with Arsenal and Liverpool’s meetings against Chelsea."


No longer guaranteed for Sky it would appear.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 01 Jun 2013, 7:46 pm

From a bit of digging around on the internet, these are the packages for Premier League football in this country:

Spoiler:

BT managed to get A and G, Sky got the rest.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 02 Jun 2013, 12:12 pm

This is just stupid.

I've got Sky, but i am on BT Broadband. Do i get the BT Sports Channels?

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Post by Duty281 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 2:07 pm

Why's it stupid? Good for Sky to have competition I think. And yes I think you would get it for free:

http://www.bt.com/sport/3-ways-to-watch-bt-sport.html

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 02 Jun 2013, 2:44 pm

Because SKY is just class, everyone should have it IMO. It is so much better than any sport coverage. ITV is just dreadful all round. BBC is ok but people like Dan Walker and Ray Stubbs are not.

Can't really complain about anyone on Sky, unless its Niall Quinn.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 2:55 pm

Yes it is class, but not everyone can afford it. Anyway, you don't know (yet) how good or bad BT's coverage will be.

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Post by Guest Sun 02 Jun 2013, 2:59 pm

It'll be the same as every other broadcaster I imagine. They'll be a few cameras overlooking a football pitch where a football match is taking place. OK


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Post by GSC Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:00 pm

Sky will get first priority for those games. Sounds good in theory
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Post by Duty281 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:01 pm

GSC wrote:Sky will get first priority for those games. Sounds good in theory

Apart from the 18 games where they won't.

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Post by GSC Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:53 pm

I'd be very surprised if Man United vs Man City and the like aren't on Sky next season.

The PL knows what side its bread is buttered on.
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Post by Duty281 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:59 pm

Well the PL had it's choice when it was selling the rights, and they sold one of the big packages to BT, who are actually paying more money per game than Sky apparently.

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Post by GSC Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:06 pm

Sky also paid about 3 times as much overall. As I say, it sounds nice in theory, but I'd be surprised if Sky don't see off yet another challenger.
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Post by Ent Sun 02 Jun 2013, 5:31 pm

My problem is that this isn't genuine competition and the casual fan ends up paying more so they can watch all the games.

As a football fan with a sky sub I can now choose to either miss out on games, pay £10-15 a month for bt sport or pay a tenner a month more for their broadband (not as good as sky's) to get the package with bt sport included. Who knows what changes will come in next year.

It sucks as it is not true competition - true competition would be multiple channels having rights to all games and a customer choosing which to subscribe to based on their presentation, pundits, presenters, picture quality etc.

Fair play to bt for giving this a go but essentially it is costing me and other football fans who already pay to watch games.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 02 Jun 2013, 6:00 pm

Have BT Sport announced any pundits?

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Post by Duty281 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 6:03 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:Have BT Sport announced any pundits?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2321871/BT-Sport-Michael-Owen-lead-commentator--prices-pundits-game-season-more.html

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Post by Ent Sun 02 Jun 2013, 6:16 pm

Interesting what they've gone for, seems like they are going to have a current player on every week but no individual that often.

Do we think this is a good or bad thing?

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 02 Jun 2013, 6:28 pm

Bad.

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Post by The Special Juan Sun 02 Jun 2013, 6:38 pm

As long as it's not Adebayor it's fine. I can't understand a word he says.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 02 Jun 2013, 6:38 pm

I think it has the potential to be good
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Post by Ent Sun 02 Jun 2013, 7:15 pm

I worry they'll be a bit too pc given they are potentially going to be playing against the guys they are criticising in the near future.

Might end up being a bit bland.

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