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Post by Guest Sun 02 Jun 2013, 9:38 am

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Post by GSC Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:38 pm

Cook gone
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Post by Guest Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:38 pm

cook's gone Sad

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Post by msp83 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:39 pm

Oh, Cook's gone. Mills strikes.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:39 pm

Cook looked like he was going along alright but that one kept low. Can Trott and Bell consolidate England's decent start? Please Trott, be positive!

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:40 pm

And dyre curses them. I couldnt feel comfortable enough to put the mockers on a batting lineup that fails time after time after time.

Nobody good enough to carry their bat.. Poor batting to go with the pathetic bowling and nobody able to support them.

Easy win for NZ having exploited a poor attack to create massive scoreboard pressure.


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Post by Guest Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:42 pm

i would have liked to have seen Buttler maybe up the order a bit, we have seen in county cricket he's not just a slogger, if given time to quickly get himself in which he would have today coming up the order a bit would have been good..

OR MORGAN!!

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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:43 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:And dyre curses them.

Nobody good enough to carry their bat.. Poor batting to go with the pathetic bowling and nobody able to support them.

Easy win for NZ having exploited a poor attack to create massive scoreboard pressure.


Sorry...but I have got a tenner on NZ to win this. Wink

In all seriousness though, even if Cook had carried his bat I can't see the others sticking around long enough to save us.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:44 pm

Nah true, it's a poor side. The trophy is going to be short for them.


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Post by Duty281 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:44 pm

Good run rate this by England, lovely running there on that last ball. My optimism is growing and growing, it's a perfect batting wicket.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:45 pm

For a good batting side duty yeah. Like the kiwis.

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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:47 pm

Duty281 wrote:Good run rate this by England, lovely running there on that last ball. My optimism is growing and growing, it's a perfect batting wicket.

Since when has that ever stopped England making a mess of things? Wink
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Post by msp83 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:48 pm

England could have done something out of the box and promoted someone like Buttler or even Woakes for that matter to find some quick runs. But the problem is that Jonathan Trott can't bat anywhere lower than 3. So England just have to go with it, no real options.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:48 pm

Haha. Don't worry, Bell is in the mood here, Root and Morgan to come.

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Post by msp83 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:50 pm

Bell goes yet again, after getting a start. Can't wait for KP to comeback!.

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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:50 pm

See what I mean?

Bell goes for 25, offering an easy catch from a poor shot. England 64-2. Rolling Eyes


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Post by Duty281 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:51 pm

Oh Ian. Too much too soon.

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Post by msp83 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:51 pm

Joe Root's in at 4. I would be happy to just follow his innings, no matter the match situation. Have a good one Joe.

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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:52 pm

As I said earlier, we won't get anywhere near 360. England just don't have the mentality to bat under pressure, especially chasing big targets in limited overs.

We rely on our bowlers to stop the opposition scoring too much...but that completely failed.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:53 pm

confidence in this team astounds me. They're terrible.

They could be in the perfect pitch against a team of octogenarians and they would still fluff it up.

This series is painful.. Showed just how far behind they are. Not even near 8th n the world. Ouch.

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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:57 pm

11 dot balls in a row...our run chase has stalled already. Sad
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:58 pm

Looked so easy when some batsmen were on it. Out lot get on and it looks like a road that's been ploughed up by a giant tractor towing a T. rex.

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Post by msp83 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 3:58 pm

Just a single of the last 12 balls. England need to keep the singles roling.

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Post by GSC Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:00 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:Looked so easy when some batsmen were on it. Out lot get on and it looks like a road that's been ploughed up by a giant tractor towing a T. rex.

thats the difference between a quality professional side like NZ and an amateur team like England trebs
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Post by Duty281 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:00 pm

Don't worry, England are just consolidating for now. They had a good start run-wise, they can afford one or two quiet overs before picking it back up.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:01 pm

Shocking really given the resources behind them gsc.

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Post by GSC Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:07 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:Shocking really given the resources behind them gsc.

I call it high time for a clear out really. England have peaked under Cook and Flower now, they've had their day.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:08 pm

Lets just give up and let someone else have our place in world cricket now.

Ireland?

Actually we won the minor counties here cornwall last year and have some decent batsmen. We could give it a go.


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Post by GSC Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:09 pm

Scotland seem to be fast risers.
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Post by GSC Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:09 pm

Maybe if we get in quick we can be the Scotland and England cricket team.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:10 pm

Hmm, could help for a year before they leave. Give enough members of scongland some time to learn to bat and bowl from their northern masters before heading out alone again.

Good call.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:13 pm

15 overs gone, England have a decent platform from which to give this target a good go. New Zealand marginally ahead at this stage.

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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:22 pm

Oooh! Trott gets lucky there...nearly stumped.

Of course, it might hurry the innings along a bit. Wink

Required Run Rate still just above 8 an over...not too bad yet.


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:22 pm

Could've done with Ronchi stumping Trott there

Come on Jonathan get on with it
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Post by msp83 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:22 pm

Ronchi missed a stumping of Trott. And he gets a boundary!.

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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:25 pm

Hundred up for England. Current run rate 5.5 per over (100 off 18). Need to accelerate soon before the target becomes unreachable.
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Post by Duty281 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:28 pm

Trott's the glue, Root to play the shots. Come on England, we're still alive.

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Post by msp83 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:28 pm

McCullum should bowl his 5th bowlers while Trott's out there. So he could bowl his better bowlers to the likes of Morgan and Buttler.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:30 pm

Decent 20 overs for England.

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Post by msp83 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:30 pm

Trott can't just put pressure on his partner like this. This has been a very harassed looking innings from young Joe. He has to account for the plodter at the other end as well.
Well well well!!!!. Would you believe it? Jonathan Trott hits a 6!!.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:31 pm

Jesus Trott hit a 6
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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:31 pm

And no sooner do I write that England need to get a move on than Trott whacks a 4 and a 6 off Williamson in one over.
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Post by Duty281 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:31 pm

I've entered a parallel universe - Trott hits a 6! Shocked

It has to be seen to be believed!

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Post by msp83 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:33 pm

Franklin has been more of a containing bowler in ODIs these days, but he hasn't found his touch in this series, and I think Brendon's better off thinking of Williamson or even Elliott for that matter.

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:35 pm

msp83 wrote:Franklin has been more of a containing bowler in ODIs these days, but he hasn't found his touch in this series, and I think Brendon's better off thinking of Williamson or even Elliott for that matter.

+1. On his day Jimmy can cut through a team. But if the ball isn't swinging he's a pie-thrower
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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:35 pm

Aargh!

Just when we were looking to push on Root heaves a big shot to long on and is caught for 28.

England 122-3.


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Post by Duty281 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:36 pm

We don't need to rush it yet. Poor shot. Morgan is possibly the last hope we have, trust him.

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Post by msp83 Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:37 pm

Joe Root has hold out, and I blame Jonathan Trott for that. The plodder, despite the 6 and all, has scored only 29 of 40.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:38 pm

msp83 wrote:Joe Root has hold out, and I blame Jonathan Trott for that. The plodder, despite the 6 and all, has scored only 29 of 40.

I don't think you can blame Trott for poor execution of a shot by Root
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Post by dyrewolfe Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:40 pm

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msp83 wrote:Joe Root has hold out, and I blame Jonathan Trott for that. The plodder, despite the 6 and all, has scored only 29 of 40.

I don't think you can blame Trott for poor execution of a shot by Root


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We don't need to be trying to hit every ball out of the ground just yet...just maintain a decent pace.

NZ only really went to town in the last 10-15 overs.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 02 Jun 2013, 4:40 pm

Losing wickets at key moments and nobody standing up... It's just another limp chase from England. Such a shame. They just don't click in this form at all.

NZ getting revenge for their defeats down under with a stuffing.

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