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Post by LondonTiger Sat 08 Jun 2013, 3:41 pm

So after the first real test for the Lions, the shebang moves on to Newcastle for what should be another opposed training session. Who can we expect to see playing? Well after featuring prominently in all 3 matches we should see MakoV getting a well earned rest and Corbs and Grant getting 40 minutes each. In the back row Tipuric will be hoping to get some game time having barely featured since the HK fixture. Maitland is an almost certainty on one wing but we may see a surprise on the other with Manu possibly being given a run-out in a 3rd position (assuming he recovers from his stinger) as I expect North to be selected for next weekends match. Sexton should be starting, and we can expect to see the coaches taking a look at how he goes with Mike Phillips.

Predicted Line-up:

Corbs
Hibbard
Jones
POC
AWJ
SOB
Tipuric
Heaslip
Phillips
Sexton
Maitland
Roberts
BOD
Manu
1/2p

Grant, Cole, Best, Evans, Croft, Murray, Farrell, Hogg


Actual Lineup (more left field than I had expected):

15. Maitland
14. Cuthbert
13.BOD
12. Roberts
11. North
10. Hogg
9. Murray

1. Corbisiero
2. Hibbard
3. Cole
4. Gray
5. Evans
6. O'Brien
7. Tipuric
8. Heaslip

Bench

Best, Grant, Stevens, AW Jones, Faletau, Phillips, Davies, Halfpenny


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Post by 123456789 Sat 08 Jun 2013, 4:40 pm

I think Phillips may be injured so it might be Murray aside from that it's probably quite close. Your back-row choice looks very good.

Personally I'd go for:

1. Grant
2. Best
3. Jones
4. POC
5. AWJ
6. SOB
7. Tipuric
8. Heaslip
9. Murray
10. Sexton
11. Maitland
12. Roberts
13. BOD
14. Halfpenny
15. Kearney (if he's fit)

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Post by ultra Sat 08 Jun 2013, 4:47 pm

From what I've seen so far and considering the 'test' is coming soon:
Corbs, Hibbard, Jones
POC, Parling
Tipuric Heaslip Lydiate
Youngs
Sexton
Roberts Davies
North
Cuthbert
Halfepnny

Time to start the real team, just giving Vunipola a rest

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Post by LondonTiger Sat 08 Jun 2013, 4:49 pm

Would it not be better to line up next Saturday with a strong team - even if it means some players lining up Weds and Sat. This match surely is an easy one?

Has Kearney trained in the last week?

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Post by wales606 Sat 08 Jun 2013, 5:03 pm

I think a close to first team will play next Saturday

Some players may play Tuesday aswell, but I expect them to have bench replacements that will come on at 40/50 minutes

1. Corbseiro
2. Hibbard (replaced at 50)
3. Cole
4. AW Jones
5. POC (replaced at 50)
6. Warburton (c) (replaced at 60)
7. Tipuric (plays both games)
8. Faletau
9. Phillips (replaced at 50)
10. Sexton (replaced at 50)
11. Maitland
12. Roberts (plays both games)
13. O'Driscoll (replaced at 50)
14. Cuthbert
15. Halfpenny (plays both games)

16. Best
17. Grant
18. A.Jones
19. Evans
20. SOB
21. Murray
22. Farrell
23. Tuilagi/JD2


Then Saturday

1. Vunipola
2. Hibbard
3. Adam
4. Grey
5. O'Connell
6. Warburton (c)
7. Tipuric (replaced at 60, Warbs to 7)
8. Heaslip
9. Phillips
10. Sexton
11. North
12. Roberts (replaced at 60)
13. BOD
14. Cuthbert/Maitland
15. Halfpenny

16. Youngs
17. Corbs/Grant
18. Cole
19. AW Jones
20. SOB/Croft
21. Youngs
22. Farrell
23. Tuilagi/JD2


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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 08 Jun 2013, 5:05 pm

I think Warburton will either start or be on bench as he looked as though he still needs game time to me.

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Post by BamBam Sat 08 Jun 2013, 5:09 pm

Surely Croft will get another go at some point in the next 2 games?

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Post by wales606 Sat 08 Jun 2013, 5:10 pm

BamBam wrote:Surely Croft will get another go at some point in the next 2 games?

I was going to say, I must have done something wrong - but I think Warburton needs 2 games, Tipuric needs at least 1 and I want to see SOB alongside them.
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Post by Feckless Rogue Sat 08 Jun 2013, 5:48 pm

I'd like to see O'Brien/Heaslip/Warburton play together.
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Post by GavinDragon Sat 08 Jun 2013, 5:55 pm

i think that may be the tes back row

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Post by George Carlin Sat 08 Jun 2013, 7:06 pm

LondonTiger - you're right, unfortunately there's going to be a real drop off in standards for the purposes of this game - only 10 of the combined NSW / Queensland Country Squad are Super 15 players.

The rest come from Australian clubs. Whilst that standard will be reasonable, can you imagine the likes of players from Cornish Pirates, Carmarthen Quins or Gala facing off against the Springboks? Exactly. Our opposition looks like this:

Rikki Abraham (Qld Country) Prop
Dale Ah-Wong (Qld Country) Wing
Phoenix Battye (Force) Lock
Jarrad Butler (Reds) Backrow
Lewie Catt (NSW Country) Centre
Tom Cox (Brumbies) Wing
Tim Davidson (Rebels) Backrow
Trent Dyer (Rebels) Backrow
Blake Enever (Reds) Lock
Dylan Evans (NSW Country) Prop
Alex Gibbon (Southern Districts) Centre/Wing
Ben Greentree (NSW Country) Centre
Haydn Hirsimaki (Qld Country) Prop
Tom Kearney (Qld Country) Hooker
Josh Mann-Rae (Brumbies) Hooker
Adam McCormack (NSW Country) Halfback
Tim Metcher (Southern Districts) Prop
Angus Roberts (Rebels) Fly half/Full back
Beau Robinson (Reds) Backrow
Tereta-Junior Siakisini (Qld Country) Centre
Michael Snowden (Force) Halfback
Richard Stanford (Eastern Suburbs) Lock
Nathan Trist (Sydney Uni) Full back/Wing

It's an excellent chance for Corbs to get some game time. Even with his lack of match practice, one arm tied behind his back and blindfold on he's still going to fold up his opposition tighthead like a sandwich.

Then it's the Tahs next weekend. The problem with having such a huge variance in quality of opposition is that it makes the Lions test selection a real headache. Some of the comments on these boards aimed at Lions players today (with utterly random, notional 'ratings' thrown in) were ridiculous - how can you compare playing against a Force side full of kids who had never played Super rugby before to a Reds side with 9 cap internationals in their starting 15 and another three on the bench?

I don't know. Perhaps I'm just getting old.
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Post by wales606 Sat 08 Jun 2013, 8:05 pm

Perhaps we will see a full dirt tracker team then, with the first saves for the Tahs

If this game is going to be a walkover then training runs together will probably be the same value
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Post by yappysnap Sat 08 Jun 2013, 8:32 pm

The best player on that Oz team list is probably out injured as well (B Robinson).

I like LT's team. It makes sense for Tuilangi to be on one wing if possible as I expect Sat's wingers to be North and Cuthbert with 1/2P at 15. Centre pairing looks good and the backrow is the best available.

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Post by George Carlin Mon 10 Jun 2013, 2:46 pm

Posted this on the other thread but I'll also do it on this one - the Combined Country team is up:


Payer
Team
Current Club
Regional Club/Born
1
Haydn HIRSIMAKI
QLD Country
Sunshine Coast Stingrays
Sunshine Coast
2
Josh MANN-RAE
Brumbies - Super Rugby
Gungahlin, ACT
Narromine
3
Tim METCHER
Premier Rugby - Southern Districts
Southern Districts, Sydney
Coffs Harbour
4
Phoenix BATTYE
Force - Super Rugby
Wanneroo, WA
Cooma
5
Blake ENEVER
Reds - Super Rugby
Easts, Brisbane
Sunshine Coast
6
Richard STANFORD
Premier Rugby - Eastern Suburbs
Eastern Suburbs, Sydney
Wellington
7
Jarrad BUTLER
Reds - Super Rugby
Easts, Brisbane
Gold Coast Breakers
8
Tim DAVIDSON (Capt)
Rebels - Super Rugby
Sydney University, Sydney
Young
9
Michael SNOWDEN
Force - Super Rugby
Eastwood, Sydney
Tamworth
10
Angus ROBERTS
Rebels - Super Rugby
Sydney University, Sydney
Gunnedah
11
Tom COX
Brumbies - Super Rugby
Uni-Norths, ACT
Sunshine Coast
12
Tareta-Junior SIAKISINI
QLD Country
Gold Coast Breakers
Gold Coast
13
Lewie CATT
NSW Country
Wanderers, Newcastle
Wanderers, Newcastle
14
Alex GIBBON
Premier Rugby - Southern Districts
Southern Districts, Sydney
Far North Coast NSW
15
Nathan TRIST
Premier Rugby - Sydney University
Sydney University, Sydney
Kiama
16
Tom KEARNEY
QLD Country
Noosa Dolphins
Sunshine Coast
17
Dylan EVANS
NSW Country
Wanderers, Newcastle
Singleton
18
Rikki ABRAHAM
QLD Country
Teachers West, Townsville
Townsville
19
Rory ARNOLD
QLD Country
Gold Coast Breakers
Gold Coast
20
Trent DYER
Rebels - Super Rugby
Sydney University, Sydney
Avoca Beach/Gosford
21
Adam McCORMACK
NSW Country
Hastings Valley, NSW
Hastings Valley, NSW
22
Shaun McCARTHY
QLD Country
Burdekin RUC, QLD
Townsville
23
Dale AHWANG
QLD Country
Barron-Trinity Bulls, Cairns
Far North Queensland

I must confess that the only Super Rugby bloke I've heard of is Jarrad Butler, who's a big meaty chap that gets the back end of a few games for the Reds.

Can Fa and the other Aussies lads help me?
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Post by bluestonevedder Tue 11 Jun 2013, 9:34 am

Does anyone know of any radio stations that will be covering this match?

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Post by RDW Tue 11 Jun 2013, 9:41 am

Right lads usual story - I'm at work not able to watch or listen to anything so some informed discussion and updates would be much appreaciated!

OK the 'informed' part might be a little adventurous on here but we'll see what happens! Very Happy

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Post by bedfordwelsh Tue 11 Jun 2013, 9:45 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Right lads usual story - I'm at work not able to watch or listen to anything so some informed discussion and updates would be much appreaciated!

OK the 'informed' part might be a little adventurous on here but we'll see what happens! Very Happy

RDW,

Like you I am in work but I won't be looking for updates and will be signing off in a bit as hope do avoid the result and watch on sky+ later.
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Post by maestegmafia Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:21 am

bedfordwelsh wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Right lads usual story - I'm at work not able to watch or listen to anything so some informed discussion and updates would be much appreaciated!

OK the 'informed' part might be a little adventurous on here but we'll see what happens! Very Happy

RDW,

Like you I am in work but I won't be looking for updates and will be signing off in a bit as hope do avoid the result and watch on sky+ later.

I have to fix our shed, its collapsing after the rain. Going to try the sky Go app and see how that works...!

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Post by __owen_ Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:28 am

I've been struck down with food poisoning and can't leave the house to watch the game, any chance someone could pm me a link please?

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Post by George Carlin Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:28 am

Can I say from the outset that Jim Rosenthal does not really belong on a High Definition tv screen. Unless he's taking part in a Spot The Open Pores competition. Run
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Post by Guest Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:31 am

George Carlin wrote:Can I say from the outset that Jim Rosenthal does not really belong on a High Definition tv screen. Unless he's taking part in a Spot The Open Pores competition. Run

I forgot you had him presenting aye laughing

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Post by petethepete Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:31 am

Lads, anyone know if this game is on any radio station?

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Post by broadlandboy Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:33 am

Try Talk Sport

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Post by petethepete Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:36 am

Cheers, yep on Talk sport for anyone stuck at work!

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Post by Guest Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:50 am

Stuart Barnes doesn't help the Lions unity: "Made in Wales, finished in Wales". T@sser.

Try by Cuthbert, started with a break from Tipuric and set up by O'Driscoll. Touchline conversion from Hogg!

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:51 am

What a kick from Leigh Hogg!!!! He's playing great at 10.

Tipruic and Cuthbert playing fantastic.

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Post by RDW Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:51 am

Great start from Hogg with the place kicks considering he's only taken 4 professional kicks at goal in his life!

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Post by Guest Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:51 am

Try 2 - Cuthbert sets up Murray about 1 minute after the first try.

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Post by GLove39 Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:52 am

Peach of a kick from Hogg.
And another try for the Lions!

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Post by Hound of Harrow Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:52 am

Excellent from Hogg for the first try, and boom, Murray's in for the 2nd. 0-14 after 10 mins.
Smile

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Post by Guest Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:53 am

Well this will be a cricket score

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Post by nathan Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:53 am

If you guys could keep us updated! thanks

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Post by GLove39 Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:53 am

Yessssss try for Hogg!!!!! Yahoo

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:53 am

Hogg should be experimented at 10 for Scotland.

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Post by Guest Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:53 am

Hogg is Dan Carter! Show and go and in for a try from almost half way! Tipuric providing the link though too.

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Post by nathan Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:53 am

is this going to be a cricket score?

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Post by jelly Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:53 am

Shame for all the players really. Not a lot of chance to shine as there is such a gap in class and only downside if you have a mare. Just hope we steer clear of injuries here.

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Post by Guest Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:54 am

Missed the kick - get him off!

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:55 am

We have the backs to cream the Ozzies if our forwards can dominate.

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Post by GLove39 Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:55 am

Lions to breach the 100 point mark?

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Post by Cyril Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:56 am

jelly wrote:Shame for all the players really. Not a lot of chance to shine as there is such a gap in class and only downside if you have a mare. Just hope we steer clear of injuries here.
My feelings exactly. The type of game where you can only play yourself out of contention rather than the other way around.

The Lions really shouldn't be organising games like this. A full-on training session would be better.

Hopefully no more injuries.

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:56 am

Maitland was asking for that. Talk about slow!

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Post by RDW Tue 11 Jun 2013, 10:59 am

How is Hogg getting on?

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Post by sirBiggles Tue 11 Jun 2013, 11:00 am

Hogg better 10 than Farell Run

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Tue 11 Jun 2013, 11:00 am

LOL at North overtaking Maitland.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 11 Jun 2013, 11:00 am

This is a completely pointless exercise.
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Post by GLove39 Tue 11 Jun 2013, 11:01 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:How is Hogg getting on?

Pretty well. Lovely touch line conversion, Bizzarely missed the easier conversion of his own try, which was a peach. And very nice pass for the first try.

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Post by Guest Tue 11 Jun 2013, 11:01 am

Some nice touches RDW, score a peach of a try, kicked a touchline conversion then missed an easier one and just kicked another.

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Post by sirBiggles Tue 11 Jun 2013, 11:01 am

Maitland break makes up for previous charge down... then passes to North to finish off try, run from own line... Very Happy

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Post by RDW Tue 11 Jun 2013, 11:03 am

I know this is a pointless game against weak opposition but in Hogg’s case you really want him to do the basics well that we would be able to do against any team – kicks for touch, kicks at goal, tackles etc. If he can do that well for the whole 80 he’ll have such a confidence boost.

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