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Post by king_carlos Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:47 pm

So with first test a struggle for an inexperienced Argentina side and a mixed bag for England let's hope for a more complete game tonight.

From an England perspective I'd simply like to see an 80 minute performance near the level of last weeks first half. From Argentina I expect they'll have been given a real work over at set piece by their coaches during the week so at the line-out especially I'm expecting a much stronger showing which should challenge England more.

Once again it is being shown on BBC 2 from 8pm for those who want to watch it.

Argentina: M Bustos Moyano (Montpellier); B Agulla (Unattached), G Tiesi (Unattached), G Ascarate (Carcassonne), M Montero (Club Pucara); F Contepomi (Stade Francais), N Vergallo (Southern Kings); G Roan (Cavalieri Prato), M Garcia Veiga (Buenos Aires Cricket and Rugby Club), M Bustos (Montpellier), J Farias Cabello (Unattached), M Galarza (University of La Plata), R Baez (Pampas), B Macome (Tucuman), T Leonardi (Southern Kings).
Replacements: M Guidone (La Plata RC), P Henn (Brive), F Gomez Kodela (Biarritz), E Lozada (Agen), T De la Vega (CUBA), T Cubelli (Belgrano Athletic Club), B Madero (San Isidro), M Orlando (Huirapuca).

England: M Brown (Harlequins); J Joseph (London Irish), K Eastmond (Bath), M Yarde (London Irish); F Burns (Gloucester), L Dickson (Northampton); J Marler (Harlequins), J May (Gloucester), R Webber (Bath), D Wilson (Bath), J Launchbury (Wasps), D Attwood (Bath), T Wood (Northampton, capt), M Kvesic (Worcester), B Morgan (Gloucester).
Replacements: D Paice (London Irish), H Thomas (Sale Sharks), P Doran-Jones (Northampton), C Lawes (Northampton), B Vunipola (Wasps), R Wigglesworth (Saracens), S Myler (Northampton), B Foden (Northampton).

There are the sides as shown on the BBC website but with Christian Wade called up to the Lions I'm really hoping that Jonny May will get a chance in his place. It's a shame for us not to be seeing Wade in action no doubt but May really deserves a start so I hope he takes his chance with both hands.

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Post by jelly Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:50 pm

May is starting in place of Wade - was on the RFU twitter page a couple of hours ago.

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Post by king_carlos Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:56 pm

Cheers jelly - great news for Jonny, he definitively deserves a chance to show what he's got in a test.

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Post by jelly Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:59 pm

Glad Lancaster didn't move Foden to wing and put May on the bench. Would've liked to have seen Foden at full back instead of Brown but glad he is playing people in their proper positions.

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Post by Alex_Germany Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:16 pm

It seems Lancaster has learnt something from the Wales match.

If May plays well that will be a lot of competition for wing. In the 6N we had one out of form winger.

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Post by Duty281 Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:31 pm

Hope the Argies put up more resistance this time around and actually give us a game. They've made 5 changes, so they should expect better this time around.

As for England, disappointed that we've lost Wade, but there's still a great chance here to win 2-0 and for certain players to force their way into the selectors minds ahead of the autumn.

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Post by Alex_Germany Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:32 pm

Strange (encouraging) to think Launchbury is the only player starting in the same position compared to the Wales - England match, with Brown and Wood also in the starting line up. (Can't recall if Marler also started).

And it's probably at least as good a squad as that one - and would be better with Care, Wade and 36 still in.

If England win they'll be about 3.5 ponts ahead of Wales in the IRB world rankings.

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Post by Duty281 Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:37 pm

Alex_Germany wrote:Strange (encouraging) to think Launchbury is the only player starting in the same position compared to the Wales - England match, with Brown and Wood also in the starting line up. (Can't recall if Marler also started).

And it's probably at least as good a squad as that one - and would be better with Care, Wade and 36 still in.

If England win they'll be about 3.5 ponts ahead of Wales in the IRB world rankings.

A victory for consistency, a win tonight would make it 7 wins out of the last 8 matches for England.

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:08 pm

Contempomi's last test
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Post by bedfordwelsh Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:11 pm

As a neutral looking forward to see Morgan and Burns continue their good form
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Post by nobbled Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:12 pm

Good start by Argentina
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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:23 pm

Argentina look a lot better this week
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Post by nobbled Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:26 pm

Wow - what a scrum from England! Totally overpowered the Argies who supposedly beefed up their pack
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Post by nobbled Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:33 pm

9-3 Argentina, England must get the next score
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Post by Hood83 Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:37 pm

Awful discipline from England

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:37 pm

Completely different game from last week

The 100% kicking helps

12 - 6
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Post by nobbled Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:43 pm

England scrum hit and miss, but when it hits - ouch! Penalty try.
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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:44 pm

Scrum is costing Argentina dear
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Post by tigertattie Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:46 pm

Not often you see an arg scrum going backwards like that.
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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:52 pm

Freddie Burns scores
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Post by nobbled Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:52 pm

Great try by Freddie - no idea how he got through that traffic !
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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:53 pm

nobbled wrote:Great try by Freddie - no idea how he got through that traffic !

The Argentina centre was down injured so there was confusion in the defensive pattern in midfield - made the defence hesitate
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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:54 pm

England opening up now
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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:54 pm

Yellow card for the Argentina no15
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Post by nobbled Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:57 pm

Halftime England 25 Argentina 12
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Post by nobbled Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:02 pm

wales606 wrote:
nobbled wrote:Great try by Freddie - no idea how he got through that traffic !

The Argentina centre was down injured so there was confusion in the defensive pattern in midfield - made the defence hesitate

Yes - but still went through 3 Argentinians
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Post by nobbled Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:19 pm

Good try Argentina. Patient then powered through.
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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:19 pm

Really well worked try
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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:19 pm

That Argie who just scored is a cross between Colin Charvis and George North!

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:22 pm

Forgot Argentina has a YC too
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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:24 pm

Big try

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:25 pm

Burns having a poor day with the boot
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Post by BamBam Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:30 pm

fantastic by Yarde

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:31 pm

Excellent finish by Yarde

Inevitable in the end
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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:37 pm

Awesome try, beautiful steps
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Post by BamBam Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:38 pm

Great try by Jason Rob .. I mean Kyle Eastmond

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:38 pm

19 - 44
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Post by nobbled Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:38 pm

Eastmond beats 5 men for a try!
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Post by Dubbelyew L Overate Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:38 pm

feic me, Eastmond

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Post by Hood83 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:38 pm

Wow

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Post by Hood83 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:40 pm

Looked a nasty injury, hope the Argentina player's alright.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:41 pm

This tour shows how badly Argentina need professional teams. They have a very good first team but they have no dept in the squad whatsoever.

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Post by nobbled Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:41 pm

England haven't had a decent 12 since Greenwood - 10 years we wait then get Eastmond and Twelvetrees!
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Post by BamBam Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:42 pm

Only just realised Billy V was on, come on Billy!!!

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Post by Hood83 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:47 pm

Our defending of pick and goes around the ruck is still not good enough. Good patience from Argentina though.

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:50 pm

Eastmond looks a good find
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Post by BamBam Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:50 pm

Eastmond could be absolute class, we have to keep him involved going forward

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Post by Hood83 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:52 pm

Too much. I know this is a poor Argie side, but that was clinical. The number of suppor runners and the clearing out there was very, very good. We even, shock horror, hit the line at pace!

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:56 pm

Good win
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Post by nobbled Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:57 pm

Well played England. A better Argentina side but England so much better.
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