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Post by GSC Wed 19 Jun 2013, 1:36 pm

Jimmy ends up with 2 wickets for his troubles and Broad leads England with 3.

Its a funny game.
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Post by alfie Wed 19 Jun 2013, 1:39 pm

So even though Miller and Kleinveldt doubled the score , England need just 176.

Would have taken that at 10.30 this morning.

Anderson and Tredwell were excellent.  Broad had his moments ...Finn didn't really prove that his selection over Bresnan was as axiomatic as many people seem to think...

Wouldn't like to lose the likes of Cook and Trott too early , with a longish tail today , and a middle short of recent runs ; but England really should get these.

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Post by Duty281 Wed 19 Jun 2013, 1:40 pm

Hope England bat positively. Only thing that can stop us now is plodding along at no real pace, simply because we don't need to. That would invite pressure and wickets. One word England: Attack.

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Post by GSC Wed 19 Jun 2013, 1:42 pm

Should allow the likes of Morgan a bit more freedom, no constraints of scoring rate or time.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Wed 19 Jun 2013, 1:45 pm

Good effort that. They let SA off a bit but equally the 9th wicket partnership were positive and conditions looked good.

England still need to get it right though.


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Post by Duty281 Wed 19 Jun 2013, 1:46 pm

Oh great. I thought we had the Champions Trophy, a break, then the Ashes. We've actually got some meaningless T20s to squeeze some money out of first against the Kiwis.

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Post by meden_820 Wed 19 Jun 2013, 1:49 pm

Anderson bowls beautifully, gets two wickets, Broad has a bit of a stinker and gets three! :DTredwell again absolutely superb, he is now England's premier one-day spinner, sorry Swanny!

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Post by Mike Selig Wed 19 Jun 2013, 1:50 pm

Not sure how England "took their foot off the gas" - they kept their main bowlers on pretty much throughout, and Miller and Kleinvelt batted well. The pitch was flat and the ball once it stopped swinging didn't do much.

175 really shouldn't be enough.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 19 Jun 2013, 1:52 pm

Tredders is a bowling machine
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Post by alfie Wed 19 Jun 2013, 1:54 pm

Just need to bat sensibly , ie as it suits each batsman.

So Cook , Trott etc can bat at their normal pace ...no need to try and chase the game ...as long as they don't have a clatter of wickets England must get these comfortably.

In the same way , if Morgan gets to bat , he can play his game.

I rather hope it doesn't come down to Butler Very Happy

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Post by Duty281 Wed 19 Jun 2013, 1:56 pm

meden_820 wrote:Anderson bowls beautifully, gets two wickets, Broad has a bit of a stinker and gets three! :DTredwell again absolutely superb, he is now England's premier one-day spinner, sorry Swanny!

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Post by KP_fan Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:12 pm

SA 50 runs short.......but 50 runs too many give that eng had them 80-8
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Post by GSC Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:16 pm

I'd say they're comfortably more than 50 short
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Post by GSC Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:16 pm

Wide to start from Morris
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Post by Duty281 Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:17 pm

They're at least 100 short I would say.

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Post by GSC Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:18 pm

100 might be pushing it, but 250 should've been minimum.
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Post by GSC Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:27 pm

SA already turned to spin
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Post by GSC Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:29 pm

JP Duminy and Alvaro Peterson the match winners for SA?
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:31 pm

Robin Peterson

And I wouldn't have thought so

Only way SA will win, is if England man sausage it up
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Post by GSC Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:34 pm

Thats the one.

Not sure what AB is up to here. give Duminy and Peterson an over than take them off
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:35 pm

That was a good over from Morris
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Post by alfie Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:35 pm

Interesting start...Peterson straight away.   Defending small scores brings out the gambler in some captains.

Not unreasonable...probably won't be a lot on for the pace men , and openers often don't like spinners at the start...unfamiliar.
Morris bowling OK.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:38 pm

Went into town for a haircut (looks fresh) and a bite to eat and come back to see SA get away with murder and they get a defendable score up! Not happy mad

Cook and Bell have made a good start though!

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Post by GSC Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:40 pm

England already behind SA's score, Bell valiantly trying to raise the rate but it looks in vain.
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Post by Duty281 Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:40 pm

22/0. The good ship England, steady as she goes skipper, into calm waters.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:41 pm

And Cook goes

Never looked comfortable against Morris there
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Post by NickisBHAFC Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:41 pm

Cook gone. Time to panic.

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Post by Duty281 Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:42 pm

I appear to have inadvertently jinxed my country. I duly apologise.

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Post by GSC Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:42 pm

If you ever wanted Trott coming in in an ODI, this is the time.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:43 pm

They call him BOOM BOOM TROTTY

Off the mark with a 4
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Post by alfie Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:50 pm

Good bowling from Morris clap

Didn't do much for them in his allrounder role , so he owes his team some wickets.

De Villiers is attacking with close catchers to his spinner - as he must.  If England can get a solid base the game is over.  Couple of early wickets could put cat among pigeons though.

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Post by GSC Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:52 pm

Trotts motoring along
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Post by trebellbobaggins Wed 19 Jun 2013, 3:02 pm

Not a great series for Cookster thus far.

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Post by GSC Wed 19 Jun 2013, 3:02 pm

Ian Bell departs
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Post by alfie Wed 19 Jun 2013, 3:03 pm

Two down now...Bell nicks behind...

SA not going down easy.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 19 Jun 2013, 3:04 pm

Bell really can be the most frustrating player sometimes
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Post by Duty281 Wed 19 Jun 2013, 3:07 pm

Nerves starting to jangle. But there is a very calming feel as you watch Joe Root walk to the crease.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Wed 19 Jun 2013, 3:11 pm

When do we start blaming Trott?

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Post by trebellbobaggins Wed 19 Jun 2013, 3:15 pm

Looking a tight low scoring affair here.

It was clear you could never assume anything. If eng can bowl like that so can sa.

Sa edging it maybe as they have the runs.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Wed 19 Jun 2013, 3:22 pm

Root getting bogged down.

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Post by alfie Wed 19 Jun 2013, 3:25 pm

Joe Root getting a little bit frustrated here...not able to pierce the cover field...stay cool , Joe , plenty of time.

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Post by msp83 Wed 19 Jun 2013, 3:28 pm

If ever there is an ODI match situation made for Jonathan Trott, this has to be it. So long as he's around, England have absolutely nothing whatsoever to worry about.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Wed 19 Jun 2013, 3:34 pm

I think Root is being sensible so far. It would be stupid if he started to swing the bat around. Trott and Root just need to treat this almost like a test match.

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Post by alfie Wed 19 Jun 2013, 3:36 pm

Decent stuff from McLaren.   Determined expression as he walks back...very Steyn-like.  Wouldn't de Villiers like to have the real Steyn to bowl now...

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Post by Duty281 Wed 19 Jun 2013, 3:36 pm

We might not be as good as we were under Flower, but we're still coasting to the final.

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Post by alfie Wed 19 Jun 2013, 3:40 pm

That will make Root feel happier ...short and hammered past point for four.

I am fine with them taking their time , Nick ...I am just reading Root's facial expressions ,and sense he wants to get on with it.  He is a busy player by nature , and doesn't really like being pinned down for long.

Good temperament though : I think he will work his way through this patch.

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Post by alfie Wed 19 Jun 2013, 3:42 pm

Four more...don't bowl short to Root Very Happy

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Post by Duty281 Wed 19 Jun 2013, 3:43 pm

99 runs required from 30 overs, 8 wickets remaining.

Looking at it rationally, this will be a piece of cake.

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Post by Duty281 Wed 19 Jun 2013, 3:52 pm

Trott has reached and exceeded his nailed-on 37, now he is a mere mortal.

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Post by alfie Wed 19 Jun 2013, 3:54 pm

Halfway now...Nasser fretting about the threat of Peterson but England help themselves to nine from his comeback over...

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