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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:18 am

Before the dust ssettles on the Champion's trophy, we have yet another Tri Nations tournament involving India. West Indies hosts the tournament with Sri Lanka being the 3rd side involved.
For West Indies, this is an opportunity to jell well under the leadership of new skipper Dwayne Bravo. Ramnaresh Sarwan is dropped due to poor form, and there is no place for young seamer Jason Holder either. West Indies have retained the rest of the squad that played the CT.
As for Sri Lanka, this tournament gives further opportunities to the likes of Dinesh Chandimal, Lahiru Thirimanne and skipper Angelo Mathews to make the step up that reduce the side's real dependence on senior players like Kumar Sangakkara and Mahela Jayawardene. Although both were in fime form during the CT, the younger players have to make the qualitative step sooner rather than later, as Kumar and Mahela won't be around for ever. Opener and senior player Tillakaratne Dilshan is out with an injury, otherwise Lanka have also retained the rest of their CT squad.
As for India this is an opportunity to consolidate the gains from the CT. The young squad should benefit from more game time with each other. The likes of Rohit Sharma and Dinesh Karthik have the opportunity to firm up their place in the side. The slowish and lowish nature of the tracks in the West Indies should suit Ravichandran Ashwin and Ravindra Jadeja, and it presents a challenge to the quick bowlers to adapt quickly from the more friendly conditions in England, though there was no serious swing available in most of the games there. All-rounder Irfan Pathan is out with an injury, but the rest of the winning squad that played in the CT are there for this tournament.
Like most of the Tri-Nations tournament, this one is also a money spinner mostly due to India's presence, and it has come at the cost of a 2 test series between West Indies and Sri Lanka. There is no larger context to this tournament as such, but all the 3 teams have something to add to, consolidate, and improve up on.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:19 am

In the first game of the tournament, Sri Lanka take on the hosts later today.

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Post by KP_fan Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:32 am

These bilateral and odd triangular ODIs have become these days like the new testing, traning practise grounds for the fringe players......and the established one returning from injury to find form.
 
given the world of IPL and T20......50 over appears like a long duration...enough to test the inning building potential of batters....and long enouhg to allow captains to have close-in fielders / catchers...allowing bowlers to go all out on attack.
 
From an Indian point of view:
 
1) Sami and Vinay Kumar should get some games to ease the load on espeically Yadav.
I have noticed Yadav wasn't going flat out........like he does in tests bolwing at 150kph.
In CT he was around 140kph....whihc is brisk but I hope in trying to conserve himself he doesn't lose his speed for good.
 
In every game one of the main 3 seamers should be rested IMO.
 
2) Dhoni needs a bit of  rest / break.....letting karthik don the gloves.....will allow playing Vijay also.
India is one batsman short........and further weakened by Irfan injury......means India cannot play an allrounder any more.
 
3) Hope Mishra gets a game or two and Ashwin some breaks
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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:08 am

KP_fan wrote:These bilateral and odd triangular ODIs have become these days like the new testing, traning practise grounds for the fringe players......and the established one returning from injury to find form.
 
given the world of IPL and T20......50 over appears like a long duration...enough to test the inning building potential of batters....and long enouhg to allow captains to have close-in fielders / catchers...allowing bowlers to go all out on attack.
 
From an Indian point of view:
 
1) Sami and Vinay Kumar should get some games to ease the load on espeically Yadav.
I have noticed Yadav wasn't going flat out........like he does in tests bolwing at 150kph.
In CT he was around 140kph....whihc is brisk but I hope in trying to conserve himself he doesn't lose his speed for good.
 
In every game one of the main 3 seamers should be rested IMO.
 
2) Dhoni needs a bit of  rest / break.....letting karthik don the gloves.....will allow playing Vijay also.
India is one batsman short........and further weakened by Irfan injury......means India cannot play an allrounder any more.
 
3) Hope Mishra gets a game or two and Ashwin some breaks
Pretty much agree on Yadav, Dhoni and Ashwin needing a bit of rest. Also agree Shami Ahmed should get more game time, he does look a good potential, good enough for all formats unlike Vinay. KPF, I think Ishant Sharma has to do a lot more to become the first choice 3rd seamer. He had a decent CT, 2nd highest wickettaker for India, a game changing over in the final and all, but even there he didn't look consistent. Like Rohit Sharma, he has also been picked based on potential for the last 4 years, though unlike the former, he did perform in his first year and a half in international cricket. Like Rohit again, he has earned for himself a series or 2 on the back of some good performances at last. But no way can we consider him a straightforward third choice can we? That's why I am really interested in young Shami. If he gets some game time, and if he performs, that should keep Ishant focused and give India greater options. Unlike the clown who headed the previous selection panel, Sandeep Patil is not afraid to take strong decisions, and so I am sure the Sharmas can no longer survive only on potential.

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Post by KP_fan Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:18 pm

Yes in the mind of neutral fan followers neither of Sharmas is an automatic choice....and those positions should be more evenly contested with other potentials.

However captain has a great liking for them....so they are in the side as first choice unless they fail for a prolonged period......and then they get back in again when their replacements fail for a shorter period.

Many would like Raina also to be under the review albeit with a longer rope...but he is deemed untouchable
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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:22 pm

West Indies won the toss and are bowling. Denesh Ramdin's 2 match ban is over, and despite the Johnson Charles with the gloves arrangement providing the team with a greater sense of balance, and also giving some value to Charles' selection in a more valueadded role than aslogger up front, Ramdin will be taking the gloves. With Dwayne Bravo in at 5, that lineup lacks a sense of solidity. Yet again, most of the responsibility will be on Chris Gayle and Marlon Samuels.
Upul Taranga is making a return to the Sri Lanka ODI side after some time. and Ajantha Mendis is also playing. No Thisara Perera, its Jeewan Mendis in the all-rounder role. Interestingly, Sri Lanka will have to come up with a new opening combination today. Dilshan is not in the squad with injury, and Kusal Perera is dropped for today. Will it be Mahela opening? or will it be Thirimanne?

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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:33 pm

Its Jayawardene opening with Tharanga.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:34 pm

Kemar Roach starts with a maiden.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:27 pm

Good start from the Sri Lankan openers, 61 without loss in the 13th over.

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Post by shivfan Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:30 pm

Finally, a wicket...Big Bravo strikes.
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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:36 pm

A poor shot from Tharanga that. But the West Indies won't mind. The 2 big guns Sanga and Mahela together.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:38 pm

shivfan wrote:Finally, a wicket...Big Bravo strikes.
Hello there shivfan!.
What do you think of the West Indies team combination today? Should they have brought in a better batsman or all-rounder in place of Ramdin with Charles keeping?

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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:41 pm

Devon Smith is a proven failure at international level. Who else could be that innings building yet adaptable batsman that the West Indies could have thought of? Sarwan's form didn't allow that, who else? Lendl Simmons perhaps?

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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:44 pm

I see Simmons has scored a ton against Sri Lanka A recently. Perhaps he would come back into consideration at some point in the series?

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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:55 pm

That's the 50 for Mahela Jayawardene. Brought it up with a reverse swept boundary of Narine.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:00 pm

And Narine strikes soon after, Mahela goes, caught behind of bat and pad. He was out for 52. Dinesh Chandimal joins Sangakkara.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:46 pm

Sri Lanka 140-3 after 31. Dinesh Chandimal on 21, and skipper Angelo Mathews on 22, having been dropped by Gayle of Roach when on 7.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:47 pm

And now Samuels gets Chandimal to make it 140-4.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:49 pm

Like Tharanga and Sangakkara, another loose shot here from Chandimal. Tharanga went flashing at a wide ball without footwork, Sanga pushed a catch to cover, and Chandimal has now picked out midwicket with precision

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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:10 pm

And yet again, batting powerplay straightaway produces a wicket, Lahiru Thirimanne who has been struggling to get going, has picked out deep midwicket. Sri Lanka 152-5. And its that man again, Kulasekara!!.

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Post by shivfan Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:18 pm

msp83 wrote:
shivfan wrote:Finally, a wicket...Big Bravo strikes.
Hello there shivfan!.
What do you think of the West Indies team combination today? Should they have brought in a better batsman or all-rounder in place of Ramdin with Charles keeping?
TBH, one-day cricket is the weakest format in the Caribbean right now, and I don't think changing the personnel will significantly change the results....

In the last match, Ramdin was omitted for Devon Smith.  Is he a significant improvement on Ramdin?

Rampaul gets rid of Kulasekara...six down.
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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:52 pm

Rampaul gets another. Sri Lanka in danger of not being able to bat out their overs They are 190-8 and almost 6 overs still remaining. Angelo Mathews playing a lone hand, not out on 48.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:17 pm

Sri Lanka were bowled out for 208, Angelo Mathews remaining not out on 55. Sunil Narine with 4 wickets, and  Ravi Rampaul with 3. West Indies in reply are 41 without loss after 8, Johnson Charles scoring only 3 of those so far.

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Post by shivfan Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:30 pm

Gayle is off to a flyer....
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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:38 pm

West Indies 60 without loss after 13. Johnson Charles has only 7 of those.

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Post by shivfan Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:47 pm

Gayle gets a run-a-ball half-century while Charles is eight from 42 balls....
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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:21 pm

West Indies 121-1 after 22. Charles out for 29. Darren Bravo has joined Gayle.

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Post by KP_fan Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:33 pm

Gayle firing when it doesn't count.
Unlike many otehr chmapion players....Gayle generally is a damp squib on big occasions.
he did little in the CT or in the test matches recently..
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Post by shivfan Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:42 pm

Gayle brings up his ton off just 89 runs, comprising nine boundaries and six sixes....
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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:44 pm

Terrific knock from Sir Christopher!.

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Post by shivfan Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:51 pm

KP_fan wrote:Gayle firing when it doesn't count.
Unlike many otehr chmapion players....Gayle generally is a damp squib on big occasions.
he did little in the CT or in the test matches recently..
It's a home series, so it counts for home fans....

I suppose the Ashes doesn't count, as well as the the ODI series with the Aussies, because England will be playing a weak team....

And Gayle scored a ton in his last Test match.
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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:58 pm

Gayle's gone at last, out for 109, of the last ball of the day from Ajantha Mendis. West Indies 181-2.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:01 pm

shivfan wrote:
KP_fan wrote:Gayle firing when it doesn't count.
Unlike many otehr chmapion players....Gayle generally is a damp squib on big occasions.
he did little in the CT or in the test matches recently..
It's a home series, so it counts for home fans....

I suppose the Ashes doesn't count, as well as the the ODI series with the Aussies, because England will be playing a weak team....

And Gayle scored a ton in his last Test match.
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And before Samuels came to the party in the final, it was Gayle who carried the West Indies batting through their winning run in the Worlt T-20.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:02 pm

And now Bravo has got run out. West Indies 190-3.

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Post by shivfan Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:13 pm

msp83 wrote:
shivfan wrote:
KP_fan wrote:Gayle firing when it doesn't count.
Unlike many otehr chmapion players....Gayle generally is a damp squib on big occasions.
he did little in the CT or in the test matches recently..
It's a home series, so it counts for home fans....

I suppose the Ashes doesn't count, as well as the the ODI series with the Aussies, because England will be playing a weak team....

And Gayle scored a ton in his last Test match.
Rolling Eyes 
And before Samuels came to the party in the final, it was Gayle who carried the West Indies batting through their winning run in the Worlt T-20.
Especially in the semi-final, when Gayle hit a match-winning 75 not out from just 41 balls....

To WI fans, the World T20 champs matters more than the CT....

It is true that Gayle is inconsistent, but he does hit match-winning knocks more often than most of his team-mates....such as Pollard, who's out for a duck.
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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:29 pm

West Indies win by 6 wickets with plenty of overs remaining. They had a bit of a hiccup near the finish line, losing 3 for 12, from 181-1 to 193-4 before Samuels finished the job in the company of the captain Dwayne Bravo.

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Post by msp83 Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:31 pm

shivfan wrote:
msp83 wrote:
shivfan wrote:
KP_fan wrote:Gayle firing when it doesn't count.
Unlike many otehr chmapion players....Gayle generally is a damp squib on big occasions.
he did little in the CT or in the test matches recently..
It's a home series, so it counts for home fans....

I suppose the Ashes doesn't count, as well as the the ODI series with the Aussies, because England will be playing a weak team....

And Gayle scored a ton in his last Test match.
Rolling Eyes 
And before Samuels came to the party in the final, it was Gayle who carried the West Indies batting through their winning run in the Worlt T-20.
Especially in the semi-final, when Gayle hit a match-winning 75 not out from just 41 balls....

To WI fans, the World T20 champs matters more than the CT....

It is true that Gayle is inconsistent, but he does hit match-winning knocks more often than most of his team-mates....such as Pollard, who's out for a duck.
furious 
Gayle hasn't brought his T-20 consistency to the other 2 formats, but he's their best limited over batsman, and their 2nd best in tests behind the evergreen Chanderpaul.

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Post by msp83 Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:17 pm

In the 2nd game of the tournament, West Indies will take on India today.

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Post by msp83 Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:30 pm

West Indies won the toss and are bowling. They are coming into the match in the backdrop of a few injury problems. Skipper Dwayne Bravo is missing this game with a groin injury, although at this stage the injury is considered minor and it is expected that Bravo should be ready for the next match. Kieron Pollard is leading the side today. Ravi Rampaul has a more serious injury concern with a sprained ankle that could keep him out for at least 3 weeks. Devon Smith comes in for Bravo, and Tino Best replaces Rampaul.
India are unchanged.

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Post by msp83 Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:40 pm

Some early drama. Tino Best bowling a no-ball and Dhawan got a single. Rohit was to take the strike for the free hit, Tino bowled a wide, and then when he actually bowled the free hit ball, It went to Darren Bravo in the deep, he took the catch, forgot it was a free hit, celebrated the catch without throwing the ball back in, and the Indians managed an extra run there!!.

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Post by KP_fan Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:43 pm

pitch has bounce and best getting it to climb more than required
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Post by msp83 Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:50 pm

India 25 without loss after 4.

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Post by msp83 Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:51 pm

Shikhar Dhawan's gone, good return catch from Kemar Roach. India 25-1.

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Post by msp83 Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:52 pm

Virat Kohli joins Sharma.

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Post by msp83 Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:54 pm

KP_fan wrote:pitch has bounce and best getting it to climb more than required
Best being Best. Bowling as fast as he can, and offering a few hit me stuff in between. But his pace, if he gets his direction right, can be a handy wicket taking option.

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Post by msp83 Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:57 pm

Another no-ball from Best, and Kohli hits it for 6. Free hit coming up.
just 1 of that.

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Post by msp83 Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:14 pm

Now Kohli gone, out for 11, brilliantly caught by Gayle of Sammy. India 39-2 in the 10th over. Dinesh Karthik joining Rohit.

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Post by msp83 Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:41 pm

The West Indies bowlers keeping the Indian batsmen under check, 57-2 after 16.

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Post by KP_fan Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:56 pm

The pitch is not easy to score...it is boncy...but the loopy tennis bal type.....so the ball stops and you can't hit on the rise.

250 will be a fendable score

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Post by msp83 Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:07 pm

Karthik really struggling to get going. 17 of 48.

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