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Post by KP_fan Wed 10 Jul 2013, 9:54 am

First topic message reminder :

It's weird...no thread on T1 yet
Ashton Agar will play is the breaking news.
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Post by hodge Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:14 pm

1st ball in test cricket goes for 4 king 

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Post by kingraf Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:24 pm

Isnt Pattinson actually English... Nice to note England also 'release' players

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Post by JDizzle Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:35 pm

50 partnership. clap 

The Aussies need to sort their lines out to Trott sharpish!

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Post by KP_fan Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:36 pm

Warner sent back from the tour to "practise" in SA with the A team Shocked 
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Post by JDizzle Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:39 pm

Joeeeeeeeeeee. Bloody Siddle.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:41 pm

feick. Joey - slly boy!

30 for him. ok only . But not a disaster.

Trotts sr is faster than he has ever managed in odi cricket let alone TEST.

go on lad..

Boundaries seem easy as pie out they and KP Is in. Mouth watering

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Post by KP_fan Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:41 pm

Root is too fidgety to be facing new ball.
He might get by in the subcontinent.....but not in England, SA or NZ

That ball from siddle was full...swung a little away but was made to look much better than it was...always is the case when a RHB is clean bowled of an away swinger


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Post by kingraf Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:41 pm

I did say it made no sense to tour with Warner if he isnt to play... Seems the selectors agree
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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:43 pm

"Root is too fidgety to be facing new ball."


rubbish

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Post by KP_fan Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:44 pm

mystiroakey wrote:"Root is too fidgety to be facing new ball."


rubbish

he is not rubbish......a fairly decent middle order bat Wink
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Post by Guest Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:45 pm

England not getting off to a great start here. If ever there was a 'KP moment', it's now. Come on lad!!!

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Post by KP_fan Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:47 pm

KP dropped on 1 Wink
would love to see him bash the aussie pace bowling now
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Post by alfie Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:47 pm

KP_fan wrote:Root is too fidgety to be facing new ball.
He might get by in the subcontinent.....but not in England, SA or NZ

That ball from siddle was full...swung a little away but was made to look much better than it was...always is the case when a RHB is clean bowled of an away swinger

Dunno about that , KP_f ...was a darn good ball. Full and quick , and a little movement.

He had played quite soundly until then , made thirty...way too early to be writing him off as an opener. Call me after the next two or three Tests...

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Post by JDizzle Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:49 pm

KP dropped on 1?! Bit harsh KPF! Very hard chance for Haddin.

At least KP knows where his off stump is. Shocked

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:51 pm

KP_fan wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:"Root is too fidgety to be facing new ball."


rubbish

he is not rubbish......a fairly decent middle order bat Wink

 Wink

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Post by KP_fan Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:51 pm

Starc looking dangerous...LBW on cards
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:51 pm

So the Aussies are going down the complete desperation route with the selection Agar over Lyon.
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Post by alfie Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:53 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:England not getting off to a great start here. If ever there was a 'KP moment', it's now. Come on lad!!!

I was pretty happy with the start until Root went , Azzy.

Given the conditions , the prelunch session was always going to be challenging...one down at lunch would have been excellent.

That said , it is indeed important for KP to get settled now. If he can , there might be a few runs on offer later in the day : this Aussie attack looks quite dangerous at times , but also a bit inclined to spray the ball around...

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Post by KP_fan Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:55 pm

alfie wrote:
KP_fan wrote:Root is too fidgety to be facing new ball.
He might get by in the subcontinent.....but not in England, SA or NZ

That ball from siddle was full...swung a little away but was made to look much better than it was...always is the case when a RHB is clean bowled of an away swinger

Dunno about that , KP_f ...was a darn good ball.  Full and quick , and a little movement.

He had played quite soundly until then , made thirty...way too early to be writing him off as an opener.  Call me after the next two or three Tests...

I said before...I say again......when a RHB is clean bowled of an away swinging delivery...is a spectacular view...often made to look better than it was.

Root wasn't steady on the crease....shuffled away.......and then tried to move back in the line onf the ball....feet got a bit stuck trying to change the direction...ended up playing insdie the line of the ball.
Fidgety Technical imperfection made for a great looking dismissal
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Post by Scrumpy Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:55 pm

Did I hear that right?

Boycott found it hard playing with 4" let alone 1 1/4 "
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Post by kingraf Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:56 pm

South Africa looking composed thus far

Sorry

Couldnt resist. Last time though.
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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:57 pm

Get over that KP. Root is not just OK as an opener- but will be one of the greats in years to come

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:57 pm

kingraf wrote:South Africa looking composed thus far  

Sorry

Couldnt resist. Last time though.

I think that stopped being funny from the moment it was originally said!
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Post by KP_fan Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:58 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Get over that KP. Root is not just OK as an opener- but will be one of the greats in years to come

if he averages 42+ in this series I will grant him OK status
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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 12:59 pm

if he averages 35 plus i will grant him ok status

42 plus good status

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Post by kingraf Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:01 pm

Struck a nerve there, Olly?
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Post by KP_fan Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:01 pm

mystiroakey wrote:if he averages 35 plus i will grant him ok status

42 plus good status

LOL..there is no remedy for the disease called "low expectations"
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Post by kingraf Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:03 pm

Must wonder if Clarke looked at the Haddin drop and thought to himself, 'I bet Wade would have caught that'
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Post by alfie Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:03 pm

So 98/2 at lunch.

Fairly even. Marginal edge to England , IMHO.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:04 pm

I expect him to ave over 50 in this series KP.

however if he ave 42 or above that is good for a first test series as an opener. that isnt even low expectations.. that is pretty high in fairness

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:05 pm

Decent first session for us I think. Going at a good run rate, and seen off the new ball. Hopefully one of Trott/KP get going
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Post by KP_fan Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:05 pm

2 wickets makes it in favour of Aus
RR of nearly 4 makes it tilt in Eng's favour
overall even....I would say at thi point.

from Aus POV they need to choke runs down a bit.
from england's POV.......one of these two out there should go on to hit a 150+
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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:06 pm

98/2- is good enough going for england. good set up. no disasters- trott and kp in great form atm.

Good batters to come.. From here on 400 seems an ok target

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Post by KP_fan Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:06 pm

mystiroakey wrote:I expect him to ave over 50 in this series KP.

however if he ave 42 or above that is good for a first test series as an opener. that isnt even low expectations.. that is pretty high in fairness

Compton averages 45 against Australia...root's gotta match that atleast
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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:08 pm

compo is 30 and limited.

root is in this side and staying in this side. he will not have to average more than 35 to stay in. He will get the chance for at least a year ..

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Post by Mike Selig Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:08 pm

England will be the happier of the two teams given that the ball was doing a little.

KP and Trott look in good touch. Root looked (at the risk of agreeing with KPF) a little edgy and nervous which is understandable.

Australia bowled OK but a few too many loose deliveries. Pattinson looks their main threat, although Starc was unlucky not to pick up a wicket also. Agar looks a spinner in the Bruce Martin vein - he'll do a job but can't see him causing too many headaches. Still, it's a bold move from Aus. Glad to see Smith in the side.

First hour after lunch crucial as always. If Trott and KP get going then England can look to build a big score; if either gets out early (and the ball is still doing a bit) then England's recently fragile middle-order will have work to do.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:09 pm

by the way comp has never even played against aus and aveages 31 overall.. so get your facts right first pal

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:11 pm

Mike still banging that tune that root can't open!!

jeas he could score a double hundred and you would still be that stubborn!

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Post by Duty281 Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:12 pm

Good toss to win for England. Yes there was quite a bit of early swing about in overcast conditions, but the pitch already has a few cracks, and I'm sure Swann will be rubbing his hands in glee in prospect at bowling last on this pitch. 350 should be the minimum aim for England here.

Decent morning for England. Cook will be annoyed with himself, he got through the testing first half-hour, only to play a loose drive at a wide one. Root was going along fine until he got a beauty of a yorker from Siddle. Trott's looking very comfortable, he's playing his shots, and already has put the Aussies on the back foot. Him and KP are probably a perfect partnership for the afternoon.

Australia have looked a bit edgy in the field and with the ball. I'm quite surprised they went for Agar, in truth. Did anyone expect that?

Keep it up England!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:14 pm

Mysti he did look a little nervous and uncomfortable out there today mate, nothing to worry about, bound to be. It's his first test opening!
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Post by kingraf Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:20 pm

Trott's average in the Ashes is bested only by his 'grandfather'

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:28 pm

Are you talking about Compos grandad- that played for arsernal footy and england cricket or albertrott that played for aus and england cricket!(who was supposedly a distant relative of trotty and commited suicide at a young age (RIP) )

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Post by kingraf Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:36 pm

I was talking about Albert Trott. Trott's dad is convinced they are related, I'll take his word. Didnt know he committed suicide. All I knew is that he once hit a huge six at Lords, and that he has an Ashes average of 102
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Post by trebellbobaggins Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:40 pm

Been listening this morning. Seems Aussies dangerous bowling has done the damage.

Did sound like an odd morning to put yourself in. Under cloud at Trent Bridge. Right or wrong decision?

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:43 pm

Kinggraf- where did you get them figures from. I dont think Albertrotto averaged that much and J. Trott is certainly not second

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Post by JDizzle Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:46 pm

Oh dear.

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Post by Scrumpy Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:46 pm

Compton would have done better.
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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:47 pm

KP~!!  silly boy,.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:47 pm

400 looks a long way off at the moment,

i will settle for 300

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Post by Duty281 Wed 10 Jul 2013, 1:48 pm

Silly shot from Pietersen. A very loose drive, similar to Cook's dismissal. Not what England needed.

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