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Post by Pal Joey Fri 12 Jul 2013, 1:02 pm

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England:
Alastair Cook*, Joe Root, Jonathan Trott, Kevin Pietersen, Ian Bell, Jonny Bairstow,
Matt Prior†, Stuart Broad, Graeme Swann, Steven Finn, James Anderson

Australia:
Shane Watson, Chris Rogers, Ed Cowan, Michael Clarke*, Steve Smith, Phil Hughes,
Brad Haddin†, Peter Siddle, Mitchell Starc, James Pattinson, Ashton Agar
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Post by alfie Fri 12 Jul 2013, 4:45 pm

Certainly plenty of time left in the game...maidens can build pressure , but England haven't seemed bothered by the slow scoring.
Suppose they reason the longer they keep Australia in the field the better...tire their bowlers , let the pitch continue to wear...

Lead over 200 now ...was a time I doubted we would see that Smile 

Still a very tight game

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Post by JDizzle Fri 12 Jul 2013, 4:46 pm

Broad struggling to penetrate the infield. There are no fielders in the air Stuart...

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Post by Duty281 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 4:46 pm

KP_fan wrote:the pitch is easy...cloud cover ain't there....ealry start of serie snerves have eased.
Aus got to 280 INSPITE of the failutre of the top order.......and that they will püretty much because a few of the 11 batters will score.
so Eng need to cross 300 to feel they have a grip on game

If we got bowled out now we would be fine and still win. 2 reasons for that:

1) James Anderson
2) Graeme Swann

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Post by kingraf Fri 12 Jul 2013, 4:47 pm

The reason Kallis moved from three to four for South Africa is to give him greater rest time after bowling... Surely Watson shouldnt logically open?
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Post by JDizzle Fri 12 Jul 2013, 4:49 pm

kingraf wrote:The reason Kallis moved from three to four for South Africa is to give him greater rest time after bowling... Surely Watson shouldnt logically open?

Difference is Watson wants to open and is awful anywhere else!

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 12 Jul 2013, 4:53 pm

Broad calming down.. Problem is he did that yesterday at exactly the same time then played a stupid shot!!


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Post by alfie Fri 12 Jul 2013, 4:53 pm

I agree with KP that 300 plus would be needed for England to feel they had a grip on the game...but the way this match has gone the only way they will feel that is when they take the last Aussie wicket...

Over 200 means a chance , even now. Another 100 (highly unlikely!) would mean a much better chance...but I wouldn't bet on this match with stolen money...

Fifty partnership clap 

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Post by Duty281 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 4:53 pm

Broad is patient, now he times a sweet drive for 4. Very impressed with his perseverance today.

50 partnership. clap 

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Post by kingraf Fri 12 Jul 2013, 4:55 pm

The pitch doesnt look a 215 AO, or 117/9 pitch, it will go five days. Just watch.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 4:56 pm

kingraf wrote:The pitch doesnt look a 215 AO, or 117/9 pitch, it will go five days. Just watch.  

aussie to win it on the last morning?

thing is, cloud comes in and it totally changes this.

Agar was playing in perfect conditions. when the moisture arrives it'll be very interesting to test him.

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Post by JDizzle Fri 12 Jul 2013, 4:58 pm

Pressure will play a huge part last innings too. No-one dealt with it well first innings, bar Agar, so it will be interesting to see how the Aussie batsmen go with the game on the line! I can't see Clarke failing again though, unless he gets another rip snorter from Anderson!

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 4:59 pm

and agar coming in with expectation, pressure and an attack looking to go after him and rough him up. could be interesting,
if he does it again then he's going to be the new aussie legend.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:00 pm

"Another 100 (highly unlikely!)"

At the moment i would say highly likely!

and we really dont want to give aus these conditions to bat in either, we will be very stubborn at the crease till the end of the day. this batting performance is worlds apart from day 1. Our batters gave wickets away, we are not doing that today

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Post by kingraf Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:01 pm

It would be amusing if Liverpudlians start singing ''Theres only one Agger'' when Agar comes out to bat
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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:03 pm

England always needed the first test to start playing Roakey.

they've done it again but could have handed aussie the game.

their fans are very confident on the bbc because of Agar.

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Post by alfie Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:03 pm

mystiroakey wrote:"Another 100 (highly unlikely!)"

At the moment i would say highly likely!

and we really dont want to give aus these conditions to bat in either, we will be very stubborn at the crease till the end of the day. this batting performance is worlds apart from day 1. Our batters gave wickets away, we are not doing that today

Shssh , roakey Smile 

Get as many as we can ...Broad getting a bit too cute against the spinner...play normally , Stuart...

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Post by Duty281 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:05 pm

Broad is into the thirties, Bell is into the seventies, and England's lead is into the two-hundred and twenties. This is comfort time now for England, 300 lead looks possible now. Agar's only bowled one good ball all day, and hasn't looked at all threatening for most of the day. England can milk him for runs all day.


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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:06 pm

yeah indeed... it's not any spinner either, it's the worlds best out there. Agar the magnificent.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:07 pm

Agar the batter - part time spinner, you mean..

The new KP ??

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:08 pm

Duty281 wrote:Broad is into the thirties, Bell is into the seventies, and England's lead is into the two-hundred and twenties. This is comfort time now for England, 300 lead looks possible now. Agar's only bowled one good ball all day, and hasn't look at all threatening for most of the day. England can milk him for runs all day.

I think KP here said anything less than 300 and Eng are struggling. So it's not nearly enough yet. Two days left remember!

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:08 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Agar the batter - part time spinner, you mean..

The new KP ??

The new Bradman, the new Warne, the new worlds best.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:09 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:Agar the batter - part time spinner, you mean..

The new KP ??

The new Bradman, the new Warne, the new worlds best.

So good that he's negotiating peace for the Middle-East in between overs.

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Post by alfie Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:10 pm

Only trouble with that is that it indicates conditions are not too awful for batting...the more we score , the more you feel we need ...if you see what I mean.

But these two have played very soundly. Bell the limpet , and Broad taking on Prior's mantle...

Broad went big then and nearly holed out...keep going lad...

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Post by Duty281 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:11 pm

Broad's gone aerial and only just got away it! Hughes tumbles over the boundary. Lead up to 226. Count the runs! You wouldn't have thought we could get this many when we were minus 58 for 2 yesterday!

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:13 pm

alfie wrote:Only trouble with that is that it indicates conditions are not too awful for batting...the more we score , the more you feel we need ...if you see what I mean.

But these two have played very soundly.  Bell the limpet , and Broad taking on Prior's mantle...

Broad went big then and nearly holed out...keep going lad...

Yep classic isnt it- the less we score the less we feel we need as well.


However it all goes back to historic data i suppose. 284 is the record 4th innings winning score so.. Odds are getting very short on england at the bookies

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Post by JDizzle Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:14 pm

This is how Broad should bat all the time. Play yourself in and then have a go. For some reason he went through a phase of trying to tee off from ball 1. Doesn't work. But he is playing well here.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:15 pm

and that score wasn't at Trent.

at what point do aussie actually feel any pressure?

so in control , this ground is their playground, the bat and ball their toy, like ring masters of their own circus.


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Post by mystiroakey Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:15 pm

what the frieck happened then.

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Post by alfie Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:16 pm

Bookies tend to drive good cars and holiday in the Mediterranean , so I guess that is a good sign ...

Way to go yet...

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:16 pm

he is in. jeas -

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Post by JDizzle Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:17 pm

Haddin standing up to Siddle. Brave.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:17 pm

Glad the 3rd umpire could see that one!

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:24 pm

Fordyce not liking this and trying his best to put the mockers on England.

Agar already did that you plonker Fordyce.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:25 pm

OH broady.

why has he stood there

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Post by hampo17 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:25 pm

Evening out the decisions here because that was blatant.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:26 pm

has he screwed it up MR?
 
for gods sake. idiot.

Fordyc jinxed them. wanting them to fail all day. I hate these journalists, so desperate to write crap about England they cannot stand them to do well.

game over then, aussie win.


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Post by mystiroakey Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:26 pm

Nice.. Oh dear that is so naughty

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:26 pm

one of the worst umpiring games ever!!

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Post by hampo17 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:27 pm

And that edge for four just rubs the salt in Laugh

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:27 pm

I think Broad should have walked.. But well he hasnt... so

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Post by Duty281 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:27 pm

What the bloody hell?

A clear an edge as you could ever hope to see.

Broad not out. Somehow. Shocking umpiring.

Still if Australia had saved their review from earlier on...

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Post by Hibbz Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:27 pm

ha ha ha ha ha ha. You've got to love Broadus.

Suck it up Aussies. Use your reviews wisely in future.

Edge for 4.

Doesn't get much better than this.

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Post by JDizzle Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:28 pm

Oh my, Broad clubbed that.

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Post by alfie Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:28 pm

What happened then ? Broad nicked that via Haddin ,straight to slip ...and got away with it !
Bizarre.
Clarke will be regretting that stupid lbw review earlier on...

Evens up for Erasmus yesterday. devil 

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Post by KP_fan Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:29 pm

Broad should have walked...unbelievable lack of cricketing spirit here
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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:29 pm

They need to calm down and slow down. They do not have a worlds best ever Agar at 11 and they cannot stand a chance without 300. Just take their time and rebuild from here.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:29 pm

The umpire clearly has Trott's dismissal in mind from yesterday...

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Post by trebellbobaggins Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:30 pm

balance. both teams screwed by poor umpires.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:30 pm

well then will this cost the aussies 145 runs (I hope so Very Happy Very Happy )

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Post by Duty281 Fri 12 Jul 2013, 5:30 pm

KP_fan wrote:Broad should have walked...unbelievable lack of cricketing spirit here

I've never believed in walking. Let the umpire do his job. If he makes a howler, use one of your reviews. Don't waste your reviews either.

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