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Post by Biltong Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:27 pm

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:51 pm

Only 418 runs to get and we know how good the Aussie tail is.

 Yeah, perhaps not.

I just hope they can wrap it up so I don't miss it tomorrow at work.

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Post by alfie Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:57 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:Only 418 runs to get and we know how good the Aussie tail is.

 Yeah, perhaps not.

I just hope they can wrap it up so I don't miss it tomorrow at work.

Agreed , trebs...and fairly smartly , too ...I would like to get some sleep Wink 

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Post by GSC Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:01 pm

Maxwell thinks Michael Clarke might retire in the next 18 months

This Aussie side will be Bangladesh standard
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:02 pm

GSC wrote:Maxwell thinks Michael Clarke might retire in the next 18 months

This Aussie side will be Bangladesh standard

It's verging on it with him in it anyways
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Post by kingraf Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:03 pm

How high would you rate Clarke as a Batsman then? Currently I think he is top ten all time for Aussies.. probably 4-8
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Post by GSC Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:03 pm

They might give Scotland a game
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Post by kingraf Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:06 pm

About six me think... Bradman, Ponting, Waugh, Greg Chappel and Hayden above him?
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Post by kingraf Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:07 pm

Hows the weather looking tomorrow? Any one skilled in Rain chants?
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Post by GSC Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:08 pm

Scorcher again apparently
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Post by kingraf Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:12 pm

As an aside, why on earth is Yorkshire so good at everything?
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Post by GSC Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:13 pm

Review coming.
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Post by dyrewolfe Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:13 pm

kingraf wrote:How high would you rate Clarke as a Batsman then?  Currently I think he is top ten all time for Aussies.. probably 4-8

Definitely one of the best I've seen since I started watching cricket in the early 90s. I think he at least makes the top 10 of the last 20 years.
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Post by GSC Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:13 pm

Umpires call so not out
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Post by Hoggy_Bear Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:14 pm

kingraf wrote:How high would you rate Clarke as a Batsman then?  Currently I think he is top ten all time for Aussies.. probably 4-8

Nah.
Might make an Aussie all-time third XI.

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Post by kingraf Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:18 pm

Hoggy - statistically you will be hard pressed to find 18 or so better batsmen than Clarke in Aus history... in fact you wont find ten.
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Post by Hoggy_Bear Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:21 pm

kingraf wrote:Hoggy - statistically you will be hard pressed to find 18 or so better batsmen than Clarke in Aus history... in fact you wont find ten.

Stats aren't everything though.

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Post by kingraf Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:23 pm

True, but even his match play and BMT are hard to find... none of his double centuries came with the team any higher than 55/3.
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Post by alfie Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:23 pm

Statistics aren't everything. Clarke has had a wonderful couple of years , but thre are a lot of great players who have worn the Baggy Green over the last 136 years.

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Post by kingraf Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:32 pm

The guys scored a ton in every series he has been captain with the exception of the WI tour. Thats impressive. Add to that his All time great 2012, maybe the greatest batting year ever, definitely close. and I dont think a top ten rating is unjustified. I dont think he scored one century coming in a 200/3, or even 130/3... Last 25 tests its been Clarke or bust.
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Post by alfie Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:35 pm

Super player , true.

Will maybe assess him when he retires...not going to put a number on him tonight.

In fact I think it is bedtime for me...clean up these last two for me , eh , chaps ?

See you all at Old Trafford thumbsup 

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:37 pm

looks like this'll end tomorrow with fresh bowlers and maybe some cloud in the morning.

Annoyingly I will miss it.  The drops were a shame but there ya go.

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Post by kingraf Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:38 pm

Whatever happened to Phil Jacques? Thought he was pretty decent, would.certainly walk into this team. I hear he retired, but he is only 34..
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:39 pm

ah phew.  was getting a bit bored lol.

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Post by dyrewolfe Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:39 pm

Jimmy strikes to remove Siddle for a gritty 18. Australia 192-9.

England's lead now under 400. Cook will be getting as tad anxious! Wink
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Post by GSC Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:43 pm

We get an extra half hour also
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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:45 pm

What' more defunct - the Aussie team or Cricinfo atm?  Doh

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Post by Hoggy_Bear Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:48 pm

Corporalhumblebucket wrote:What' more defunct - the Aussie team or Cricinfo atm?  Doh

Glad it's not just my computer

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Post by mystiroakey Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:49 pm

would anyone play tomorrow if they hung about- what would the ruleing be on that!

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Post by GSC Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:51 pm

Assuming you meant pay.

If theres less than 5 or 10 overs played you get a full refund, 20 or less half refund iirc.
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Post by dyrewolfe Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:52 pm

mystiroakey wrote:would anyone play tomorrow if they hung about- what would the ruleing be on that!

I'm guessing if no more wickets fall today, Cook and Clarke would shake hands at stumps and agree on the win for England.

Would be crazy to come back tomorrow.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:52 pm

Weirdly there is no pressure on Aussie here now. Game is gone so they can just annoy eng and hang around. Eng wil be itching to end it.

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Post by dyrewolfe Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:54 pm

200 up for Australia, with Pattinson making a very gutsy 21 - 3rd highest score of the innings so far.
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Post by kingraf Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:56 pm

Aus still havent matched Eng's first innings total.
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Post by LondonTiger Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:56 pm

Pattinson continues his audition for the soon to be vacant openers spot by facing the second new ball.

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Post by GSC Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:02 pm

Pretty sloppy from England today
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Post by kingraf Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:04 pm

Pattinson a genuine all-rounder. I can see him getting to #8, probably actually #6 with this side though
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Post by mystiroakey Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:04 pm

another last wicket partnership- What the feick is going on!

England get some killer instinct will ya

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Post by mystiroakey Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:09 pm

ok we can request 30 mins!

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Post by LondonTiger Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:35 pm

I want to put money on them surviving till tonight - then being out first ball tomorrow

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Post by Duty281 Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:46 pm

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Crushing victory for the Ashes champions. Is anyone doubting a 5 nil now?

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:47 pm

kingraf wrote:Agar does look a batter though, might come back in a year or two as a specialist. His had starts, but isnt really converting, because he doesnt know how to build a mega innings.


Kind of like a new KP?
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:47 pm

Left it late but they got there.

Well done england.

One more win or draw and they retain the Ashes.

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Post by kingraf Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:47 pm

If Australia had a half-decent batting line-up, this would have been a pretty boring draw.
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:48 pm

mystiroakey wrote:another last wicket partnership- What the feick is going on!

England get some killer instinct will ya
It was flat and they had done a lot of bowling so I wasn't too concerned.

They would have nailed them tomorrow morning no doubt.

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Post by kingraf Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:49 pm

CJ - Maybe... By all accounts he is a far better batsman than KP was at 19. He needs to bat up higher in Shield, maybe come down to South Africa, moan, go to Hampshire... And come back in five years as a supernova talent
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Post by Duty281 Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:49 pm

Please Sky Sports, get rid of Michael Holding. Pathetic commentator, seems to have held a grudge against England since Broad didn't walk.

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Post by Hoggy_Bear Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:08 pm

Just a word of caution. Last time a British player won Wimbledon, in the Ashes that followed Australia came back from two down to win 3-2.
Of course, that Aussie team included the likes of Bradman, McCabe and O'Reilly, but still.

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Post by Diggers Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:08 pm

Holding is a brilliant commentator. I was listening to him today talk about this being the best English side he has seen since 1971 so he is hardly biased against them.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:11 pm

I think he just gets a bit grumpy is all.

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