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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:24 am

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KP_fan wrote:Aus has made something out of nothing.
Moment of Truth for Eng
Rubber meets the road

if they fail to get close....i.e within 30 runs of winning..then they are as many believe simply lucky and going down the hill.

If they even for once think they will get bowled out in 40 odd overs......then it's already a moral defeat.
What a load of old rubbish.

If they fail to get close in a test match because Aussie don't give them anything and have good fields it means nothing of the sort

1/10. Troll harder.

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Post by alfie Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:25 pm

Mrs Watson looks rather dishy ...

Too good for him Very Happy 

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Post by Duty281 Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:26 pm

Trott's actually playing well and with good intent!

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Post by mystiroakey Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:29 pm

Cook is slowing down a tad!

Come on Cap!!

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Post by alfie Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:32 pm

Clarke having a rare bowl.

Might see a bit of bowling into the rough now.

England have played quite well so far , but they haven't raced away with the scoring rate. I can see the target gradually slipping away from them over the next ten or twelve overs.
Then it will be a case of how many wickets down and whether the rate is quite out of reach.

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Post by KP_fan Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:33 pm

does Eng think they can still lose from here ? lose 9 wickets in 29 overs
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Post by mystiroakey Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:33 pm

this isnt an odi game- so i dont understand why we are using our odi plan..

stay steady and then bash the last 20!!

no if we don't lose our wickets we draw!! This is still a test match. Get the rate up now. if we lose a couple of wickets just bat the draw..

They are doing it back to front- If we have a go late with bad batters- aus could skittle us!- we need a consistent rate to win

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Post by mystiroakey Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:34 pm

come on pick that rate up!!

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Post by Duty281 Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:36 pm

England are going about this the right way. Set the platform, then attack. If you attack too early, it won't work - remember Headingley 2012?

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Post by Duty281 Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:40 pm

Running good by England thus far. Nice cut by Cook there as well.

10 off that over. Who's starting to believe now?

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Post by mystiroakey Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:42 pm

great to see trott playing well.

England are upping the rate.

We cant just leave it till the last 20 or 15.. need to keep it manageable.

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Post by Duty281 Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:45 pm

Best innings all series by Trott!

Cook and Trott doing a fantastic job to keep the RRR below run-a-ball, which is just where it needs to be.

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Post by dyrewolfe Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:47 pm

Runs starting to come thick and fast for England.

81-1 off 18 overs.

146 needed off 26 overs. Very do-able. Just need to keep up this T20 approach.
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Post by KP_fan Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:47 pm

betteing sites are putting eng win at 2.37 and aus win at 126 at this point Shocked 
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Post by alfie Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:50 pm

I remember Manchester , 1961.

Similar target ...few more overs though. The fashion for scoring was a bit slower then Smile 

Dexter played a blinder , and at one point England were 137/1 and looked like winners. But Benaud came on , took six wickets , and Aussies won match and series...

No Benaud here. But you don't want to assume you are bullet proof too early. I am all for going like this for a while yet , and if it still looks reasonable , go nuts when you really cannot lose.
The other thing is , if you launch the real assault late , the fielding side will find it hard to shut you down by going ultra defensive.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:51 pm

KP_fan wrote:betteing sites are putting eng win at 2.37 and aus win at 126  at this point Shocked 

contrast that with 300 for england a day and a half ago

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Post by mystiroakey Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:52 pm

ok good time for KP to come on tbh

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Post by KP_fan Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:53 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
KP_fan wrote:betteing sites are putting eng win at 2.37 and aus win at 126  at this point Shocked 
contrast that with 300 for england a day and a half ago
things can change very quickly in a chase....2 dollars stuck on aus now may not be a bad gamble
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Post by Duty281 Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:53 pm

86/2, time to calm down.

Time for super Kev!

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Post by alfie Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:54 pm

Cook gone.

Bother. KP in earlier than I wanted. He either accelerates the team to a remarkable win , or he goes cheaply and they put the shutters up.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:55 pm

well you are to late after that wocket

would have gone down to 45 now mate.

point being though if a few wickets go england will just bat out the draw- realistically unless england go kamikaze(which they wont) england cant lose.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:55 pm

If ever there was a situation for Kevin Pietersen, this is it...
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Post by alfie Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:55 pm

KP_fan wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:
KP_fan wrote:betteing sites are putting eng win at 2.37 and aus win at 126  at this point Shocked 
contrast that with 300 for england a day and a half ago
things can change very quickly in a chase....2 dollars stuck on aus now may not be a bad gamble
Thought you had lost enough money on Australia this summer , KP _fan. Very Happy 

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Post by Duty281 Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:56 pm

No way Australia will win this. As Alfie said, if Kev goes early, the shutters go up.

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Post by Duty281 Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:58 pm

It's reached a potentially tricky run-a-ball stage.

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Post by KP_fan Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:58 pm

the moment Eng drop shutters and if they do...it will be a diffrent ball game....cobras will start spitting every delivery...and anything can happen then....every over

Eng have gotta go  normally as long as possible
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Post by KP_fan Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:00 pm

alfie wrote:
KP_fan wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:
KP_fan wrote:betteing sites are putting eng win at 2.37 and aus win at 126  at this point Shocked 
contrast that with 300 for england a day and a half ago
things can change very quickly in a chase....2 dollars stuck on aus now may not be a bad gamble
Thought you had lost enough money on Australia this summer , KP _fan. Very Happy 
unfortunately gambling becomes addictive.
2 dollar is not a big loss.......250 dollars win will be huge Smile
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Post by Duty281 Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:01 pm

If Australia got 8 wickets in 23 overs, it will be a greater come-from-behind victory than Adelaide 2006. It just won't happen.

Now England on the other hand, can still pull this off, but it remains unlikely.

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Post by KP_fan Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:02 pm

Duty281 wrote:If Australia got 8 wickets in 23 overs, it will be a greater come-from-behind victory than Adelaide 2006. It just won't happen.

Now England on the other hand, can still pull this off, but it remains unlikely.
KP going for glory here....it's fantastic finish for the paying viewers
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Post by dyrewolfe Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:03 pm

Well, Cook goes for 34, leaving England 86-2.

But that just brings KP to the crease. Can he and Trott see England home?
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Post by KP_fan Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:06 pm

wasted review.....aus might rue it in a tight finish
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Post by Duty281 Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:07 pm

Trott is the anchor, KP is the aggressor. It's quite possibly the dream combo.

Bell, Woakes, and Prior in reserve. 127 to get from 21 overs.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:09 pm

KP was born for these situations.

amazing shot. He has power today the ball is flying!

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Post by Duty281 Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:09 pm

This is made for Pietersen. Absolutely made for the outrageous talent he is.

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Post by dyrewolfe Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:10 pm

Hundred up for England and KP signals his intent with a huge hit back over the bowler's head.

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Post by KP_fan Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:11 pm

aus need 2 quick wickets in the next 15 runs
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Post by mystiroakey Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:13 pm

KP_fan wrote:aus need 2 quick wickets in the next 15 runs
and then it fizzles to a draw.

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Post by Duty281 Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:16 pm

The biggest problem for Australia is that they don't look like that they believe they can beat England. And that's a massive problem. They've just been happy to sit back here, and then you ask yourself - why did Clarke declare? Australia don't believe they can win.

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Post by KP_fan Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:19 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
KP_fan wrote:aus need 2 quick wickets in the next 15 runs
and then it fizzles to a draw.
only if eng continues to bat positively.

if they drop shutters...there is a risk of CHOKING
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Post by alfie Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:20 pm

Yes. We are running low on overs for a total batting collapse now. Just 19 ...hard to take a lot of wickets in that time frame once a team is intent on defence.

At the moment of course it is still England looking to get the runs , but that run rate required is creeping up. If KP can't force things - and he is struggling to do do , despite some fine shots - you would think the draw is looming ever closer.

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Post by Duty281 Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:21 pm

Australia tie Pietersen down for a moment, but only for a brief moment as KP slashes one through midwicket for 4.

Oh we're halfway there...

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Post by mystiroakey Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:23 pm

KP_fan wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:
KP_fan wrote:aus need 2 quick wickets in the next 15 runs
and then it fizzles to a draw.
only if eng continues to bat positively.

if they drop shutters...there is a risk of CHOKING
Not a chance.. we just go down to normal test scoring rates- 2-3 an over. aus cant bowl us out cheap when it matters.. I would have more chance winning the lottery mate..

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Post by Duty281 Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:25 pm

Australia are in a personal hell, and Clarke is facing utter humiliation.

"4-0, we're gonna win 4-0," sing the jubilant England fans.

103 from 17 overs.

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Post by GSC Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:25 pm

England are batting positively, an aren't all out in 15 overs. Madness
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Post by dyrewolfe Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:26 pm

England 124-2 and need 103 off 17 overs.

Game still finely poised. A couple of Aussie wickets could still put England in defensive mode...
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Post by Duty281 Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:27 pm

GSC wrote:England are batting positively, an aren't all out in 15 overs. Madness
Completely different situation.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:27 pm

RR slightly dropping- decent!

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Post by alfie Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:28 pm

99 off 17.

If KP bats through , England win. Don't think anyone else could do it though. Unless it was just the last few overs.

Slips have disappeared Smile 

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Post by dyrewolfe Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:29 pm

Woah! KP playing as though he's invincible. Starc suffering badly.
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Post by Duty281 Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:30 pm

England rocking, super Kev rocking. What a talent. 15 off that over.

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Post by alfie Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:31 pm

Duty281 wrote:Australia are in a personal hell, and Clarke is facing utter humiliation.....
Not really though. In fact he will probably get most of the credit , for making a game of it Very Happy 

Still a lot to do , and KP very much the key.

Fun to watch though...

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