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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 09 Sep 2013, 10:54 am

Watched Collateral Damage the other night and just like in other films like Patriot games there is a Female villain...who though its a crud movie plays her part superbly....as in Patriot games..

Just like in Patriot games I wanted her to die viciously even more than the Central villain..........

Is it because Women are meant to be compassionate home-makers or more empathetic generally ???..........Does it affect us mentally seeing Women acting a s b****ds ?? Or is it a sexist thing ??...Are we just too sensitive as Men and seeing a woman villain makes us feel insecure ??

It was the same with your Myra Hindley..........Was she any worse than Brady ???.........To the media she was the devil incarnate..

Why do we hate women baddies more than Male ones ??

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Post by STC Mon 09 Sep 2013, 10:55 am

Because we're a misogynist?
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Post by Guest Mon 09 Sep 2013, 10:58 am

Yes TRUSSMAN, as STC says, I think "we're" a misogynist of the highest order. Also have to point out you comment re feeling insecure.

You clearly have a lot of issues, son, and I'm not sure this forum is the best place for you to try and sort them out.

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Post by Galted Mon 09 Sep 2013, 11:16 am

I've wondered about why Hindley is hated so much more than Brady, might be something in what say about preconceived ideas of how people should behave.  It's a similar story with Thompson/Venables - the hatred directed to them in the media seems greater than towards adult killers of children such as Ian Huntley or Roy Whiting who would have been more calculated about what they were doing.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 09 Sep 2013, 11:29 am

DAVE667 wrote:Yes TRUSSMAN, as STC says, I think "we're" a misogynist of the highest order. Also have to point out you comment re feeling insecure.

You clearly have a lot of issues, son, and I'm not sure this forum is the best place for you to try and sort them out.
All opinions and advice are welcome..even yours

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 09 Sep 2013, 11:31 am

Galted wrote:I've wondered about why Hindley is hated so much more than Brady, might be something in what say about preconceived ideas of how people should behave.  It's a similar story with Thompson/Venables - the hatred directed to them in the media seems greater than towards adult killers of children such as Ian Huntley or Roy Whiting who would have been more calculated about what they were doing.
Think Women are regarded as compassionate, motherly types by general Society..........Please somebody tell my Wife that..

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Post by STC Mon 09 Sep 2013, 11:32 am

If people do hate Hyndley more than Brady then it's only because she had more coverage in the tabloid media up until her death. Lots of people form their opinions of current affairs and people from what they read and see in tabloid media.

This is why most people are idiots. The fact that they are blissfully unaware of this means that tabloid media flourishes as it does.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 09 Sep 2013, 11:34 am

STC wrote:If people do hate Hyndley more than Brady then it's only because she had more coverage in the tabloid media up until her death. .
You can't quantify that statement..

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Post by STC Mon 09 Sep 2013, 11:43 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
STC wrote:If people do hate Hyndley more than Brady then it's only because she had more coverage in the tabloid media up until her death. .
You can't quantify that statement..
I remember her being on the news a lot, helping the police searching for burial sites up on Saddleworth Moor. I remember her being in the tabloids for whatever reasons, lesbian affairs in prison, repeatedly appealing for her release, having supporters in high places, etc. She was on and in the news a lot. I hardly even remember Brady being mentioned. He kept himself to himself.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 09 Sep 2013, 11:47 am

You were making a statement of fact...You can't possibly back up........

She was vilified I imagine because it's abhorrent in most eyes that a woman could behave like she did..

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Post by STC Mon 09 Sep 2013, 11:57 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You were making a statement of fact...You can't possibly back up........

She was vilified I imagine because it's abhorrent in most eyes that a woman could behave like she did..
It's an opinion. Not a statement of fact.

I think your opinion is also correct.

The fact remains, though, that as complicit as she was in the crimes, it was Brady who tortured and murdered the children. Therefore he should be considered more 'evil' than her, and 'hated' more than her. But he isn't.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 09 Sep 2013, 12:05 pm

[quote="STC"][quote="TRUSSMAN66"]
STC wrote:If people do hate Hyndley more than Brady then it's only because she had more coverage in the tabloid media up until her death. .
That's a statement....But I'll forgive you.

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Post by STC Mon 09 Sep 2013, 1:37 pm

Thanks.
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Post by jimmyinthewell68 Wed 11 Sep 2013, 8:32 am

all women are baddies . fact Very Happy 

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Post by compelling and rich Wed 11 Sep 2013, 8:15 pm

are we still talking about films here? i dont think we hate female baddies any more than male, most of my favourite baddies in films are male:

kevin bacons character in sleepers
Hannibal lecter
keyser soze

the first obviously garners a lot more hate than the other two who are simply great characters. but the only female baddie i can think of that i really hated was kathy bates character in misery

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 11 Sep 2013, 8:51 pm

Yes but you didn't hate Hannibal Lecter did you.........He was your favorite because he was charismatic and evil..

Not the same thing.....

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Post by compelling and rich Wed 11 Sep 2013, 8:58 pm

that's why i put bacons character out of sleepers on there, not particularly a favorite baddie of mine but certainly up there on the hate scale, as were the other male characters who worked in the boys detention centre

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 11 Sep 2013, 8:59 pm

Fair enough Mate..

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Post by jimmyinthewell68 Thu 12 Sep 2013, 10:16 am

i didnt like Kathy bates in that film with the ankle break scene plus the nurse from one flew over the cuckoo nest

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Post by jimmyinthewell68 Thu 12 Sep 2013, 10:19 am

just remembered misery . hatred her in that furious furious 

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Post by Stella Thu 12 Sep 2013, 11:43 am

I felt a bit sorry for her.
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Post by jimmyinthewell68 Fri 13 Sep 2013, 5:09 pm

Stella wrote:I felt a bit sorry for her.
             even the bit when  she sledge hammers James caan ankles . .   Shocked Erm vomit

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Post by compelling and rich Fri 13 Sep 2013, 5:21 pm

cant say i ever felt sorry for the crazy wench!! the hobbling scene has to be one of the memorable/disgusting scene in film history!

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