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Post by Liam Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:51 pm

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Macedonia vs Scotland (7:30)
Wales vs Serbia (7:45)
Ukraine vs England (7:45)
Austria vs ROI (7:45)

As a welsh man i'm not holding out for too much against Serbia. We're without joniesta and williams so it means there's even more pressure on Ramsey to pull something out the bag again. Hopefully Coleman's team selection and tactics improve and we're more positive against Serbia. If we'd gone for it we would've won in Macedonia. Fingers crossed bale get's 15 mins at least.

Tough games for England and ROI, I expect England to get a point at least or maybe sneak a win.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:09 pm

we are sitting back trying to get them on a break. Its becoming painfull to watch tbh

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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:09 pm

Italy losing to Czech republic too

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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:11 pm

Who would be your call? I know hartson was close last time. No experience but that's worked for you in the past

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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:13 pm

Goal for San Marino!!! 1-1 with Poland.doesn't matter what it finishes they will take a national hoilday

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Post by mystiroakey Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:15 pm

Wilshire is shocking tonight.. Get him off.

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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:17 pm

Bit early for that. He is going down too easy though. Think we just need to keep it tight to half time to frustrate them then push on in the second. Bear in mind they need a win, think the fans will start to get on their back

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Post by Steffan Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:18 pm

spencerclarke wrote:Who would be your call? I know hartson was close last time. No experience but that's worked for you in the past
Nah I want someone with experience. I know it has worked in the past but that should be an exception and not the norm

Fair do the attendance at the Wales game is poor but the brass band that play during our matches are brilliant and have just played a cover of 2 Unlimiteds 'No Limit' Laugh 

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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:20 pm

Haha quality. The band at our games does my head in, they need to learn more songs

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Post by mystiroakey Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:20 pm

Wilshire just isn't there today. He is carrying something i know it. Get someone fit on

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Post by Liam Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:20 pm

Brass band always the highlight these days for Welsh matches haha.

Bring back dutch ray!! or anyone who isn't welsh. we need coaches who understand modern day methods and with a different approach, not just because they're welsh for goodness sake.

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Post by Crimey Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:23 pm

I think Wilshere is too keen to run with the ball for me, he almost always ends up running into traffic and losing it, needs to pass more, short little passes and then burst into the box, no point trying to dribble through a wall of players.

Walcott is England's most dangerous player, giving the ball away far too often, should be able to keep the ball for more than a minute.

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Post by Hero Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:23 pm

'England happy to let Ukraine have the ball'

IE: England can't get the ball off Ukraine.

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Post by Steffan Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:23 pm

Liam wrote:Brass band always the highlight these days for Welsh matches haha.

Bring back dutch ray!! or anyone who isn't welsh. we need coaches who understand modern day methods and with a different approach, not just because they're welsh for goodness sake.
Too right mate. This 'Welshman at all costs' does my head in. They wont bring back Dutch Ray now sadly as it would be egg on FAWs face

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Post by Liam Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:26 pm

Andrew Corft should never be anywhere near this welsh side. Kolarov has just scored a screamer. but tactics are all wrong, team selection is all wrong. Need a fresh start for the next campaign i'm afraid.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:26 pm

That camera is in a rubbish place- something keeps flapping about underneath it!!

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Post by mystiroakey Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:32 pm

I would say England marginally edged that half- Ukraine looked less and less of a threat as the game went on- but they had an early 10 mins where they looked a different team

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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:35 pm

The concern is that other than Cahill we look shakey at the back. I do think we will create more chances as the second half goes on though.

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Post by Liam Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:36 pm

Coleman has shown in these last two games why he should be sacked as Welsh coach. The tactics are non-existent in defense and attack and the team selection and set up is all wrong. He's playing King and Crofts as the holding midfielders, even though neither are technically good enough to play there. He should have gone:

Ramsey Ledley
Collison

Kanu Bellamy

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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:36 pm

France getting beat by Belarus!

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Post by Crimey Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:37 pm

England were really poor though. Kyle Walker looked really vulnerable, although as Ukraine seemed to ease off he did alright, but I'm sure the manager will have noted it and they'll go down that left hand side to attack Walker. Not sure what Milner is there for, given the ball away too much, not offered enough on the counter attack and defensively just seems to have confused Cole with a sheer lack of communication, he also had a great crossing opportunity but decided to just play it back into the middle...

Jack Wilshere has been really disappointing, giving the ball away, not passing enough, not sure what's he offering the team at the moment although he's obviously an improvement on Cleverley.

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Post by Duty281 Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:38 pm

After the hurdle of the opening 10 minutes, England have been largely untroubled. Equally, England have been largely ineffective without a good final ball. Wilshere's not having his best game, while Walcott isn't in the game enough. Still fancy England to win this though.

Some other scores:

Italy 0-1 Czech Republic
Belarus 1-0 France

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Post by The Terror of Tylorstown Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:40 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
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The Terror of Tylorstown wrote:I'm English thank god.
Yet your username is after a Welshman? As an Irishman naturally I'm hoping my fellow countrymen can do the business against Austria. Good luck to Scotland and Wales as well though OK. I still have the jury out on Trapattoni.
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Yes because I was not aware that the username I had personally picked was a nickname of the legendary Jimmy Wilde, so much more than a welshmen he paved the way for all british boxers in america.

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Post by Liam Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:44 pm

Can any west ham fans or anyone for that matter tell me if Jame Collins is injured at the moment?

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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:50 pm

Scotland one up

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Post by Guest Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:53 pm

Embarrassing n painful to watch this is for england. Ukraine are two wingers and that's it, yet we treat them like there Spain. Why are we so defensive? Shocking.

Let me guess, duty claims were playing well n going to win the world cup. Wilshere is so overrated n Lambert being shown up.

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Post by Liam Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:54 pm

John wrote:Embarrassing n painful to watch this is for england. Ukraine are two wingers and that's it, yet we treat them like there Spain. Why are we so defensive? Shocking.

Let me guess, duty claims were playing well n going to win the world cup. Wilshere is so overrated n Lambert being shown up.


Can we swap managers? we'll have Hodgson and you can take Coleman?

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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:54 pm

Oh dear........... Northern Ireland getting beat by Luxembourg.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:55 pm

Wilshire isn't overrated- but he certainly isn't playing well tonight for whatever reason. Probably match fitness though. There is no sharpness to his play


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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:59 pm

Northern Ireland back level!

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Post by Steffan Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:59 pm

3-0 Serbia. Shut the door on your way out Chris

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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:02 pm

Italy have turned it around and are winning 2-1 super Mario with a pen

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Post by Dave. Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:03 pm

Very Happy

It's our way, draw/lose to the minnows, beat the big boys!

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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:04 pm

Late sucker punch for northern Ireland they are now 3-2 down

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Post by Steffan Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:05 pm

Enter the Bale machine

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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:08 pm

How's Ramsey been steffan? He has had a good start to the season thought he might drive things on tonight but guessing its just not happening for him

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Post by Liam Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:09 pm

Ramsey's been outstanding tonight. the only quality we've had apart from Mathews and Ledley.

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Post by Steffan Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:10 pm

Ramsey has been excellent. We look like a new team already now Bale is on

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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:11 pm

One plus for the future then.

Big ask for Ashley young now. On for Wilshire. Been poor most of his time since joining united. Time to step up to the plate

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Post by LastDamnation Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:12 pm

This match sums up lampard's 100 games - no width in the play to fit him into the system

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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:13 pm

Scary moment. Foul by walker right on the edge of the area.

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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:14 pm

Free kick wide. Thought it was set up for the headline 'you're not laughing any more'.

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Post by LastDamnation Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:18 pm

spencerclarke wrote:Free kick wide. Thought it was set up for the headline 'you're not laughing any more'.
They'd say the media distracted him, but he's not good enough anyway. I'd rather have lowton playing RB tbh

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Post by owen10ozzy Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:22 pm

England being put under all kinds of pressure by a pretty ordinary Ukraine team.

Once again the team is set out to look for the draw. Walker is shocking..Milner is literally just a number...No creativity on the pitch...Walcott can't pass or control the ball.

It says something that England have had to wait until the final game of qualifying to confirm their place in major tournament finals in 14 of the last 15 qualifying campaigns!

Too many draws against very average opposition, usually as a result of negativity! This has been the case since the Euro team of 1996!

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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:26 pm

Surely time for Defoe now. Little bit of an injection of pace

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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:27 pm

Good win for Scotland. 2-1

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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:29 pm

Republic one nil down. Guess this is traps last game in charge

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Post by TopHat24/7 Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:38 pm

Pahahaha where's Duty??

Complete and utter dross. Oxford United would've done better than that rubbish.

Be lucky to scrape qualification this rate.

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Post by Hero Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:38 pm

That was 90 minutes of my life Ill never get back.

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Post by GSC Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:38 pm

England were crap

League 1 standard
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Post by spencerclarke Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:40 pm

Bad result. Ukraine have the easier finish so all pressure on us

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