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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 06 Oct 2013, 8:01 pm

First topic message reminder :

Lamela is the biggest waste of money ever

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun 20 Oct 2013, 6:29 pm

CFCNick wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:No lamps is more my type of player. But Gerrard has done more in bigger games.

As I said though I hate this debate in truth.. it's been going on for over 10 years and they shouldnt even be playing for England any more
Probably because he's only played in about 3 big games. Olympiacos, Istanbul and 06 FA Cup final.

He will dine out on those three games for the rest of his life.
WHAT!!!

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Post by kingraf Sun 20 Oct 2013, 6:31 pm

Let's be frank (pun completely intended) Gerrard may have done better in 2006 & 2010, but he hardly put together inspired performances in either. England just suck in general during big tournaments. At least Lamps had a goal disallowed vs Germany, what exactly did Stevie G do in that destruction? More of a Lamps man as well, but I fully appreciate what Stevie brings to the table.

Cant see why either shouldn't be in an England shirt at this very moment - Gerrard was the 2012 England player of the year and Lampard scored 15 goals in 28 appearances last season.
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Post by westisbest Sun 20 Oct 2013, 6:46 pm

CFCNick wrote:
westisbest wrote:I don't think i'll watch Villa again on tv.

Get to passionate/emotional, (not to the point where i start crying:) ).
Not good for the old ticker.

Next live games that i can think of are.

WBA a
Fulham a
Man Utd h ( god its about time we win this fixture).
One of my best mates growing up is a big United fan. He's only been to OT once. Villa won 1-0.
Great result.

Was on the champers at the final whistle.

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Post by mystiroakey Sun 20 Oct 2013, 6:52 pm

Can some one pm me when everyone has had enough of the lamps v Gerrard deabate.

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Post by MIG Sun 20 Oct 2013, 7:57 pm

I think Lampard is better than Gerrard certainly at club level. I also don't particularly like Gerrard being an Everton fan. But even I know Gerrard has been miles better than Lampard in an England shirt.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 20 Oct 2013, 9:22 pm

Gerrard has always been the better player, stats can be very misleading especially when Lampard has scored so many penalties. The performance against Milan in 2005 is one of the great individual performances i've ever seen alongside Keane against Juve in 99, it's something Lampard has never been capable of replicating. In my opinion it's only really Chelsea fans who rate Lampard higher and that's down to club bias. He shouldn't have been in the england team to start with, shifting Scholes out wide to accommodate him was one of the single worst decisions i've seen from an england manager.

On current form Gerrard is still capable of dragging his team over the line and using the small pond argument doesn't wash, if anything it highlights his ability.

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Post by Mat Sun 20 Oct 2013, 9:35 pm

I think Gerrard has most definitely out-performed Lampard at International level. At club level, Lampard perhaps just edges it, but I'd say in Benitez's reign at Liverpool, Gerrard was nothing short of inspirational. And Gerrard certainly had to compete for his position at Liverpool, he might have played with Biscan and Henderson, but he also had to fight it out with Mascheranho and Xabi Alonso.

Also fair to say Chelsea had their share of poor central midfielders who offered no competition to Lampard, Tiago, Alexei Smertin, Maniche all spring to mind.

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Post by Guest Sun 20 Oct 2013, 10:42 pm

If you take out the penalties, open goal tap-ins, and fluky deflected goals, Lampard has scored about 40 goals for Chelsea. He always looks knackered too, be it in the 4th minute of 94th minute. Gerrard might not have won titles, but he is clearly the supreme player of the two.

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Post by GSC Sun 20 Oct 2013, 10:47 pm

Lampards played in much better teams than Gerrard for most his career to boot
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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 20 Oct 2013, 10:58 pm

GSC wrote:Lampards played in much better teams than Gerrard for most his career to boot
This.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 20 Oct 2013, 11:59 pm

And the majority view of the jury:

Steven Gerrard is better than Frank Lampard, particularly for England.

Case closed m'lud.

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Post by CFCNick Mon 21 Oct 2013, 12:35 am

Only slightly for England.

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Post by Guest Mon 21 Oct 2013, 10:04 am

No, considerably. I struggle to recall Lampard ever being made MOTM for England, or a game where we haven't bitched about him afterwards. He's been a huge disappointment for England.

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Post by Guest Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:10 am

I've just read comments from the 'Summer transfer window section' & I enjoyed it thoroughly. Comments like, 'Fellaini is technically superb, will make United's central midfield very strong' & 'Fellaini will be quality signing, much better than Cleverley. I think he will surprise many people with his qualities'.

haha, improved my monday morning slightly, many delusional people out there. Terrible signing. As for the Gerrard & Lampard discussion, it's been discussed before, change the record. Gerrard over Lampard every day of the week for England. Move on.

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Post by Guest Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:20 am

I think with Fellaini, he needs time to settle in to United's side. He's playing with unfamiliar players, no Baines marauding down the left, and he doesn't need to get forward as much as he did at Everton due to Rooney and RVP being up top. Now that he's stuck in a proper CM role, he needs to adapt. I think he'll turn out just fine, although the way he's playing, even Tom Cleverley would look good by comparison. Who'd have thought Laugh

Wonderful goal by Cabaye at the weekend John, you must be chuffed you didn't lose him to L'Arse!

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:24 am

Has gerrard won. Is it over. Thats good Smile

I was raving about fellaini myself. However the quality of everton clearly elevated him Smile, now that he is at a lesser club he needs to dig deep!!

Wink


The funniest comments preseason are the arsenal ones though Smile

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Post by Guest Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:29 am

Azzy Mahmood wrote:Wonderful goal by Cabaye at the weekend John, you must be chuffed you didn't lose him to L'Arse!
Yeah, thankgod. I always enjoy watching him score those 'hit & hope' shots. Thoroughly enjoyable.

I have to agree, I made some stupid comments about Wenger, prior to signing Ozil. I'm still not convinced until November 10th @ 6pm. Then we will know where Arsenal stand & what they can achieve. As for Fellaini, I just can't see it. Too slow, predictable, get's pressured in the deeper role & loses it. Just a passenger for most games so far.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:32 am

What a couple of nights we have as football fans.

Tuesday ARSENAL V DORTMUND

TONIGHT> PALACE V FULHAM

Very Happy

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Post by Stella Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:34 am

Eastenders it is Very Happy 
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Post by mystiroakey Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:37 am

Bahhhh

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Post by Guest Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:39 am

So I lose out on Arsenal vs Dortmund because of the GBBO final? Ho hum.

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Post by Stella Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:42 am

Azzy Mahmood wrote:So I lose out on Arsenal vs Dortmund because of the GBBO final? Ho hum.
I'll definitely be watching The Bake Off.
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Post by mystiroakey Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:44 am

err that is what SKY PLUS is for mate!!


No spoilers... 

Kimberley to win

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Post by Stella Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:46 am

mystiroakey wrote:err that is what SKY PLUS is for mate!!


No spoilers... 

Kimberley to win
Nah, Facebook will tell me who wins otherwise. Need to see it live. yes, Kimberley thumbsup 
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Post by mystiroakey Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:49 am

Maybe i will have both on at the same time.

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Post by Guest Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:49 am

Kimberley is frakking disgusting. She's so arrogant, hates criticism, and bitches so much about the other contestants. I'd rather Ruby wins tbh.

But for me, it's Frances FTW. She's more creative than all the other bakers put together!

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Post by Stella Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:50 am

Azzy Mahmood wrote:Kimberley is frakking disgusting. She's so arrogant, hates criticism, and bitches so much about the other contestants. I'd rather Ruby wins tbh.

But for me, it's Frances FTW. She's more creative than all the other bakers put together!
Huh?
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Post by Guest Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:53 am

You heard.

"Kimberley, this week we're making some cake even Paul and Mary have never heard of."

"Oh yeah, I've made that like a million times. I'm so awesome."

"Kimberley, you have a soggy bottom."

[Kimberley stares so hard at Paul that his head explodes]

"I'm looking around the kitchen, Frances is making iced zoo animals, Ruby is crying into an empty bowl, I'm the only one doing any cooking, aren't I great? Yeah? High five!"

She grates on me so much.

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Post by westisbest Mon 21 Oct 2013, 11:55 am

I'll be watching the start of Arrow season 2.

Hope Palace win, if not they're down, (according to Merse).

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 21 Oct 2013, 2:51 pm

Is someone having a pop at the cake queen to be Kimberley!!

She hasn't put in one bad performance this season. I am not bothered about her attitude(which i actually think is nice), just her class, The arsenal of the year!




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Post by mystiroakey Mon 21 Oct 2013, 2:51 pm

Win lose or draw we(CPFC) are down. However I think we could snatch something out of this!

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Post by Guest Mon 21 Oct 2013, 3:09 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Is someone having a pop at the cake queen to be Kimberley!!

She hasn't put in one bad performance this season. I am not bothered about her attitude(which i actually think is nice), just her class, The arsenal of the year!

I am having a pop. Ruby has been Star Baker three times to Kimbo's 2. And she nearly went in week 5, when she finished 7th in the technical. In fact looking at Kimbo's technicals:

10/13
1/12 (Bread, easily done)
6/11
4/9
7/8
3/7
4/6
2/5
1/4 (last week's one)

So apart from bread week, where being a good breadmaker is hardly difficult, she's only had one decent technical. Last week's. She's finished in the bottom half of the technical four times! It's easy to practice a recipe 1,000 times, but doing something under time pressure that requires skill? Not her forte.

Looking at Frances and Ruby's technicals:

7th + 12th / 13
2nd + 3rd /12 in bread week (so just behind Kimbo)
8th + 3rd /11
1st + 6th /9
3rd + 6th / 8
2nd + 1st / 7 (Kimbo just behind)
5th + 2nd / 6
3rd + 1st / 5
2nd + 4th / 4

Frances has performed far more consistently, and Ruby had five top 3 finishes.

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Post by MIG Mon 21 Oct 2013, 3:13 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:Is someone having a pop at the cake queen to be Kimberley!!

She hasn't put in one bad performance this season. I am not bothered about her attitude(which i actually think is nice), just her class, The arsenal of the year!

I am having a pop. Ruby has been Star Baker three times to Kimbo's 2. And she nearly went in week 5, when she finished 7th in the technical. In fact looking at Kimbo's technicals:

10/13
1/12 (Bread, easily done)
6/11
4/9
7/8
3/7
4/6
2/5
1/4 (last week's one)

So apart from bread week, where being a good breadmaker is hardly difficult, she's only had one decent technical. Last week's. She's finished in the bottom half of the technical four times! It's easy to practice a recipe 1,000 times, but doing something under time pressure that requires skill? Not her forte.

Looking at Frances and Ruby's technicals:

7th + 12th / 13
2nd + 3rd  /12 in bread week (so just behind Kimbo)
8th + 3rd /11
1st + 6th /9
3rd + 6th / 8
2nd + 1st / 7 (Kimbo just behind)
5th + 2nd / 6
3rd + 1st / 5
2nd + 4th / 4

Frances has performed far more consistently, and Ruby had five top 3 finishes.
Wow.  You might want to get out more. Laugh

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Post by Stella Mon 21 Oct 2013, 3:16 pm

Ruby is inconsistent, and may feel the pressure. She also sulks.

Kimberley is as cool as ice.

I'm rooting for Kimberley.
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Post by mystiroakey Mon 21 Oct 2013, 3:56 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:Is someone having a pop at the cake queen to be Kimberley!!

She hasn't put in one bad performance this season. I am not bothered about her attitude(which i actually think is nice), just her class, The arsenal of the year!

I am having a pop. Ruby has been Star Baker three times to Kimbo's 2. And she nearly went in week 5, when she finished 7th in the technical. In fact looking at Kimbo's technicals:

10/13
1/12 (Bread, easily done)
6/11
4/9
7/8
3/7
4/6
2/5
1/4 (last week's one)

So apart from bread week, where being a good breadmaker is hardly difficult, she's only had one decent technical. Last week's. She's finished in the bottom half of the technical four times! It's easy to practice a recipe 1,000 times, but doing something under time pressure that requires skill? Not her forte.

Looking at Frances and Ruby's technicals:

7th + 12th / 13
2nd + 3rd  /12 in bread week (so just behind Kimbo)
8th + 3rd /11
1st + 6th /9
3rd + 6th / 8
2nd + 1st / 7 (Kimbo just behind)
5th + 2nd / 6
3rd + 1st / 5
2nd + 4th / 4

Frances has performed far more consistently, and Ruby had five top 3 finishes.
MASTER MIND BAKER .laughing 

nice post azzy, good work

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Post by CFCNick Mon 21 Oct 2013, 3:59 pm

Can we talk about football now? Save reality tv discussions for the women's section.

Not that I have anything to say right now. Whistle 

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 21 Oct 2013, 4:00 pm

anything over another gerrard v lamps debate.

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Post by Stella Mon 21 Oct 2013, 4:10 pm

mystiroakey wrote:anything over another gerrard v lamps debate.
I think Lampard would be better in the kitchen. Likes his food.
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Post by Duty281 Mon 21 Oct 2013, 4:15 pm

Interesting, the discussion moves from Frank Lampard to food.

Is there a connection, I wonder? Laugh

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Post by NickisBHAFC Mon 21 Oct 2013, 7:13 pm

Crystal Palace team v Fulham: Speroni, Ward, Mariappa, Delaney, Moxey, O'Keefe, Jedinak, Campana, Puncheon, Bolasie, Gayle

Forest QPR and Wigan teams have looked scarier this season.

Fulham Team

Fulham team v Crystal Palace: Stekelenburg, Riether, Senderos, Hangeland, Richardson, Ruiz, Parker, Sidwell, Kasami, Berbatov, Bent.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 21 Oct 2013, 7:26 pm

bolaise starts !! YES!!!!

that is the best team we have started all season!

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Post by Guest Mon 21 Oct 2013, 7:34 pm

Hat trick for Gayle tonight, much needed Fantasy Football points as he'll conme of my bench

I WISH

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Post by Guest Mon 21 Oct 2013, 7:58 pm

I think I'd rather watch the Nags Head vs Women's Institute than Fulham vs Palace.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 21 Oct 2013, 8:07 pm

1_0 palace..

Never in doubt:thumbsup: 

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Post by CFCNick Mon 21 Oct 2013, 8:07 pm

Terrible defending from Fulham. Can't let the shortest man on the pitch get a free header.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 21 Oct 2013, 8:15 pm

Ermmm when you jump like an nba player it doesn't matter how short you are. He might as well be 8 foot

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Post by Guest Mon 21 Oct 2013, 8:19 pm

what a goal my son

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 21 Oct 2013, 8:20 pm

Omg.... What a goal.. steam 

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Post by CFCNick Mon 21 Oct 2013, 8:24 pm

@Ladbrokes: Spare a thought for Jack Wilshere tonight, his goal of the season award last all of 48 hours.....

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Post by westisbest Mon 21 Oct 2013, 8:25 pm

Great goal. Dont see those at Villa Park

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