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Post by hawkeye Sun 10 Nov 2013, 12:43 am

Federer and Nadal are due to meet for the 5th time at the WTF (previously known as the Masters Cup). It's always played indoors on hardcourts a surface that particularly suits Federer's game. Not surprisingly he leads this particular H2H 4-0.

Federer won -

6-3 6-0 in the SF in 2011
6-3, 3-6, 6-1 in the final 2010
6-4, 6-1 in the SF in 2007
6-4,7-5 in the SF in 2006

Despite qualifying Nadal missed the WTF in 2008 and 2012 (and I think in 2005 too?). So they have faced each other about as often as they could have at this particular tournament. The only time Nadal got a set was the one final they played in 2010. Apart from that final the matches haven't even been close. Who will win tomorrow? I'm sure many will vote for Nadal as Federer is now old and past his best? But remember Federer was old and past his best in 2011 too and that didn't stop him crushing Nadal with a bagel.

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Post by summerblues Sun 10 Nov 2013, 12:58 am

Nadal this time around.  He is playing about as well as he has ever played on HC and Roger is not.  Federer had a pretty good Fall campaign in 2011, not so this year (even though he seems to be improving relative to the rest of his year).

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Post by Danny_1982 Sun 10 Nov 2013, 9:54 am

Yeah Roger is the massive underdog here. Yes the surface means that Rafa won't be able to get as many high balls to the backhand, but he's still moving better and making less errors.

Nadal in 2 sets for me. I hope Roger can make it close, but I think we're destined for a Rafa v Novak final.

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Post by sirfredperry Sun 10 Nov 2013, 10:28 am

Have gone for a Rafa win. Strange paradox. This is Fed's best chance of getting a win over Rafa,  but it's also Rafa's best chance of getting an indoor WTF victory over Rog.
  Got to a point with me, and possibly with a number of Fed fans, that I'd rather see him play and lose than not be out there at all. Even in his defeats, he can still play some jaw-dropping tennis. I really enjoyed his match with del Po yesterday. Yes, there were some bad moments (a couple of service losses were particularly horrible) but there was some terrific stuff as well.
  These late-season wins will give Fed confidence going into 2014. He's had three top-10 victories after not having any since beating JWT in JANUARY ! Points are a great help, too. They'll keep him up near the top for the beginning of next year. Last thing he would have wanted to be outside top 8 for the AO.
  For a "normal" 32 year old we'd be reflecting on a very good season. Top 6, 45 wins etc etc. But Fed aint had a normal career.

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Post by hawkeye Sun 10 Nov 2013, 10:43 am

I have no idea who is going to win. I understand why many put Nadal as the favorite but Federer has been playing well and he just gets that glint in his eye when he sees Rafa at the other side of the net. Hope they both manage to play well as there is just something very special about two all time greats facing each other across the net. They have played so often and know each others games so well sometimes you get a game of pure(ish) cat and mouse tactics that is rare. I reckon some are too cynical and or partisan to be able to see just how special this match up is Sad 

Ticket sales show this. There are very few tickets left for the Fed/Nadal semi. The cheapest pair of tickets right at the top will cost £250 each and there is just one pair left. The best seats are going for as much as £2000! In contrast loads of tickets available for the other semi starting at around £40. Lots of finals tickets available too starting at around £80

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Post by laverfan Sun 10 Nov 2013, 12:12 pm

@HE… If you have tickets, I am very envious. The prices you quote are prices for nostalgia, to some extent. Think of an antique, or a painting, or a vintage car. Value lies in the eyes of the beholder. You are being naughty comparing ticket prices between the two fixtures. warning warning 

As SFP points out, the Old Man can still teach a few lessons to the youn'guns.

BTW, Raonic was in the ATP commentary box yesterday with Goodall/Koenig. I suggest you listen to him, if you can find this version of the match. US spectators probably would have heard it.

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Post by Haddie-nuff Sun 10 Nov 2013, 12:16 pm

Well whoever wins I cant remember a match when these two have not produced the magic... a nail biter. The match that I think every tennis fan was hoping for. They have always managed to bring out the best in each other.

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Post by summerblues Sun 10 Nov 2013, 12:27 pm

I really like Raonic's commentary. Also, he comes across as a pretty mature and thoughtful guy; I was quite impressed with him.

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Post by Johnyjeep Sun 10 Nov 2013, 12:28 pm

Unfortunately, this is a very different Federer to those previous years. While yesterdays game was close and exciting the quality wasn't off the scale. There were moments yes, but generally Del Potro didn't really play anywhere near what he can. And Federer only got vaguely going when his arm was twisted by being hopeless.

Federer really will have to dial up the quality to beat RN today.

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Post by Haddie-nuff Sun 10 Nov 2013, 12:39 pm

Im not so confident .. I think it might not be such a walk in the park for Rafa as you might think. I hope your right however

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Post by HM Murdock Sun 10 Nov 2013, 12:45 pm

I have to re-assess my opinion of One Direction. Their ticket prices are the same as Bruce Springsteen's. This must mean they are as good.

Not as good as Robson and Jerome though, who have spent 13 weeks at number 1.

I read that in the UK's best-selling (and therefore best) newspaper, The Sun.

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Post by Roger Laver Sun 10 Nov 2013, 1:18 pm

Danny_1982 wrote:Yeah Roger is the massive underdog here. Yes the surface means that Rafa won't be able to get as many high balls to the backhand, but he's still moving better and making less errors.

Nadal in 2 sets for me. I hope Roger can make it close, but I think we're destined for a Rafa v Novak final.

This surface is playing slower than Shanghai, so well..... but yeah, Roger would prefer this over Miami, Indian Wells and Australian Open for sure.

I agree with you on the picks. I had called a Nole-Rafa final in my pre-tournament preview and I am sticking with it!

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Post by hawkeye Sun 10 Nov 2013, 1:24 pm

laverfan wrote:@HE… If you have tickets, I am very envious. The prices you quote are prices for nostalgia, to some extent. Think of an antique, or a painting, or a vintage car. Value lies in the eyes of the beholder. You are being naughty comparing ticket prices between the two fixtures. warning warning 

Why is it naughty to point out that many are prepared to pay a high price to see this particular match up. Call it nostalgia if you want but they do so because they have seen them play before and want to witness it for themselves. Similar reasons to why anyone pays to watch any tennis player or indeed Springsteen or One Direction. Or the reasons why you might be envious of anyone who has tickets (sadly you don't have to be envious of me...) Did you see my message to you about tea on another thread?

Haddie-nuff. Agree with everything you've said! HM Murdoch. Popularity doesn't mean something is bad.

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Post by hawkeye Sun 10 Nov 2013, 1:55 pm

Just checked and there are only 14 tickets left for the Federer/Nadal match and only 4 "pairs" of tickets.

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Post by hawkeye Sun 10 Nov 2013, 1:57 pm

Just checked again and only 7 tickets remain and only one "pair".

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Post by hawkeye Sun 10 Nov 2013, 2:01 pm

It's sold out!

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Post by JuliusHMarx Sun 10 Nov 2013, 2:05 pm

"You don't get anything for a pair."
"Not in this game!"

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Post by LuvSports! Sun 10 Nov 2013, 2:06 pm

ALLEZ FEDS, LETS MAKE IT 5 - 0 HERE! Very Happy

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Post by summerblues Sun 10 Nov 2013, 2:47 pm

So far kind of expected.  Fed actually playing mostly reasonably well, but not well enough to have a real shot.

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Post by summerblues Sun 10 Nov 2013, 2:51 pm

Wow.

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Post by summerblues Sun 10 Nov 2013, 3:04 pm

hawkeye wrote:Why is it naughty....
It is not really naughty but I suspect LF is just adopting your terminology.  When something gets posted that is technically correct but where you have the view it is posted with ulterior motives to distort the true picture, you often call it "naughty".  In that context, sure, what you posted was "naughty".

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Post by HM Murdock Sun 10 Nov 2013, 4:14 pm

I bet everyone who paid £250+ was thrilled by that epic.

It finished so early, BBC2 has had to put a gardening programme on to fill the schedule!

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