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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:26 pm

The Ashes - 1st Test, Brisbane
21-25 November, 2013

Australia:
CJL Rogers, DA Warner, SR Watson, MJ Clarke*, SPD Smith, GJ Bailey,
BJ Haddin†, PM Siddle, MG Johnson, NM Lyon, RJ Harris.

England:
AN Cook*, MA Carberry, IJL Trott, KP Pietersen, IR Bell, JE Root,
MJ Prior†, SCJ Broad, GP Swann, JM Anderson, CT Tremlett

Umpires: Aleem Dar (Pakistan) and HDPK Dharmasena (Sri Lanka)
TV umpire: M Erasmus (South Africa)
Match referee: JJ Crowe (New Zealand)
Reserve umpire: P Wilson (Australia)
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:51 pm

OK Aussies 12th man will be Chris Sabburg who was my local clubs overseas player last season. That's cool
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:02 pm

Rumours Australia will leave out the spinner
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Post by Gerry SA Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:04 pm

If Lyon's dropped it's really rather terrible by Australia's management.

The kid's got a fine record. Yet they are contriving to ruin his career.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:48 pm

Agree Gerry it'd be madness, Lyon's fairly decent.

Prior batting in the nets looks good to go
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Post by NickisBHAFC Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:56 pm

What are people's plans? Anyone going to do an allnighter?

I start work at 6am, so ill be getting up early and watching the evening session! Expecting England to be on 98-8 or Australia to be on 321-1

Please say Prior starts, one of our most dependable players.

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Post by guildfordbat Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:15 pm

Olly - thanks for setting up the thread. Hoping to stay around for the first session.

Atherton just commenting that Tremlett is currently marking out his run up whch appears to confirm his place.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:17 pm

I'll be up until lunch then catch the back end of the evening session tomorrow morning.

Yes looks like Tremlett plays. Gamble but one worth taking for me
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:26 pm

Now Lyon plays, late change of mind from Australia
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Post by guildfordbat Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:30 pm

Confirmed - Prior and Tremlett play.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:37 pm

Apparently selectors wanted all pace, Clarke wanted the spinner. I'd side with Clarke on this and think the right call has been made by Australia
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Post by skyeman Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:55 pm

I'm with Gb on this who has been saying for quite a while that Tremlett is undercooked. Time will tell, but for two years with injuries and lack of form this is a big call. Obviously there is something Flower and Saker see - that we do not.

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Post by Breadvan Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:57 pm

Mitchell Johnson's mo is nearly as bad as mine...
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Post by skyeman Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:07 pm

Fantastic!! Broad big boos, 1st ball a no-ball and a four. ASHES

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Post by skyeman Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:13 pm

Right!! my prediction, Anderson will get Warner early.

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Post by skyeman Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:17 pm

Broad gets Rogers Yessssssssssssssssssssss 12/1. Who's booing now.

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Post by skyeman Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:21 pm

Broad Bowling beautifully and nearly gets Watson, great length.

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Post by guildfordbat Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:21 pm

Clearly an important wicket. I regard Rogers as under rated and a generally steadying influence on an immature Australian line up.

Almost another for Broad as Watson gets away with a loose shot.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:23 pm

Pace and carry, Tremlett could cause havoc...
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Post by skyeman Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:24 pm

5 runs per over thus far after 4, but 90/3 at lunch would be bliss.

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Post by Breadvan Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:25 pm

Warner's goona smack anything loose straight to the ropes..
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Post by skyeman Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:31 pm

Warner looks like a WW11 Jap.

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Post by guildfordbat Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:33 pm

Breadvan wrote:Warner's goona smack anything loose straight to the ropes..
Yes but I can't see that continuing until lunch. Either his foot coming a bit off the gas or his wicket falling ....

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Post by skyeman Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:40 pm

Tremlett on, prove the management right son.

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Post by Gerry SA Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:49 pm

guildfordbat wrote:
Breadvan wrote:Warner's goona smack anything loose straight to the ropes..
Yes but I can't see that continuing until lunch. Either his foot coming a bit off the gas or his wicket falling ....
I'm not to sure about that really.

Warner, in Australian conditions, is a mighty fine player.

And he's in pretty good form for NSW so far this season.

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Post by guildfordbat Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:04 pm

Gerry - Warner is never going to morph into a Boycott but he's already eased off after his ferocious start. He was on 18 after his first 14 balls. He's now on 26 from 37. If he and Watson can continue like this for the second hour, Australia will be pleased. Currently 42/1.

Tremlett looking decent at times in his first 3 overs but spoiling it somewhat with a couple of 4 balls.

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Post by Gerry SA Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:11 pm

guildfordbat wrote:Gerry - Warner is never going to morph into a Boycott but he's already eased off after his ferocious start. He was on 18 after his first 14 balls. He's now on 26 from 37. If he and Watson can continue like this for the second hour, Australia will be pleased. Currently 42/1.

Tremlett looking decent at times in his first 3 overs but spoiling it somewhat with a couple of 4 balls.
Agreed that Warner's never gonna be a blocker

But when he gets in, and he seems to be in at present, he has the ability to pick the right ball to hit.

Anyway that's what Australia will be hoping Warner does. A blazing 70/80 isn't really much use.

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Post by Pal Joey Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:12 pm

"Morph into a Boycott"... Laugh

Nice one Guildford. Please don't make our nightmares even worse!

Completely different players, different eras and different mindsets.... that sort of thing.

Olly, I've amended the OP for ya. OK
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Post by guildfordbat Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:22 pm

Gerry SA wrote:

But when he gets in, and he seems to be in at present, he has the ability to pick the right ball to hit.

Anyway that's what Australia will be hoping Warner does. A blazing 70/80 isn't really much use.
Gerry - we're as one on that. I was really trying to emphasise the importance of Warner staying at the wicket rather than putting all his efforts into continuing to go at a run a ball. If he stays there, sufficient runs will come.

Linebreaker - thanks for your comment.

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Post by skyeman Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:25 pm

Swanny on, will Warner be true to his word?

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Post by skyeman Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:26 pm

Maybe!!

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Post by guildfordbat Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:32 pm

Tremlett starting his sixth over on the reel. He rarely bowled more than 5 in any one spell for Surrey last season. So far today he's generally pitched the ball up and been there or thereabouts. It'll be particularly interesting to see if he can build on that in his second spell (I doubt he'll bowl more in this one) or whether it's taken a lot out of him and he suffers.

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Post by skyeman Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:33 pm

Tremlett looking quite good thus far. A good line and length and less than 2 per over.

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Post by skyeman Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:50 pm

Fifty partnership from the two W's and looking comfortable. Very slow over rate from England, with 10 mins until lunch will be lucky to get 25 in.

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Post by skyeman Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:59 pm

You beauty, Broad gets Watson just before lunch caught in the slips to a very loose shot. Aus 71/2.

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Post by guildfordbat Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:02 pm

That second wicket has very much changed the complexion of the morning. England's session.

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Post by skyeman Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:02 pm

4 balls later and lunch. Englands session. 71/2. Warner looking solid now though after my earlier prediction.

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Post by B91212 Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:12 pm

And Broad gets Warner to go with Clarke who he picked up straight after lunch Very Happy. Had been very impressed with Warner up until then, very assured and not a loose shot in sight. Looked like he wanted to bring his 50 up in style.

Think we owe a big thank you to the Australian media for getting Broad fired up. Currently 4/86, all 4 wickets to Broad. Bailey just almost caught by Prior off Anderson. After a good start by Aus it's all England at the moment.

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Post by B91212 Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:31 pm

And Bailey goes, caught at slip off Anderson. Never looked particularly comfortable since coming in and had dabbled outside off stump a few times before he was out. Smith looks in decent enough touch (if a little unorthodox as usual).

Aus 101/5 after 35.4 overs with Haddin now at the crease (before the afternoon drinks break). All England since the Watson wicket just before lunch.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Nov 21, 2013 12:40 am

Surprising that the bloke who has an awful first class record scored no runs eh

Broad on fire, Tremlett looked quite good. Nip out one of these two before the new ball please lads
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Post by The Fourth Lion Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:09 am

New ball due in 8 overs. Root coming on to fiddle a few and give the quicks a breather before taking it.

Johnson is batting well.... He's getting after anything loose that Swann bowls with the old ball. England will be glad to get a second new ball in their hands, methinks.

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Post by LivinginItaly Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:56 am

Yes!!! Broad you beauty

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:29 am

Couldn't have asked for much more after losing the toss. England's day
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Post by Duty281 Thu Nov 21, 2013 2:58 am

Advantage is with England. Looked a beauty of a pitch for batting as well.

Stuart Broad, take a bow. clap

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Post by GSC Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:15 am

Ill hold off on declaring how good the pitch is until England's turn.

Winding up Broad generally not a great idea. He's at his best when he's in a hostile mood
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Post by The Fourth Lion Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:23 am

Michael Clarke will be buying Brad Haddin and Mitchell Johnson a pint tonight (he may even stretch that to a pint each..!!). Thanks to them, Australia will have something like a total to bowl at.

I totally concur GSC's comment. You never know how good any pitch is until both teams have batted on it.
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Post by alfie Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:53 am

I have the impression this was a very good pitch to bat on , and Australia will be disappointed with the scoreline.
However Haddin and Johnson have ensured they are going to have something to defend at least. They have certainly lost the advantage gained by winning the toss - usually handy at this venue - by not being 300/3 or so : but while being skittled for 180 , as looked possible at one stage , would have been "game over" , the final score keeps them in the game. Remember England will have to bat last unless they bat very big...
Reckon England will be pretty happy with their day. And if they can clean the last couple up quickly tomorrow will fancy their chances of a useful lead. But they still have to do it with the bat.

Hope the weather doesn't mess the game about too much - bit of rain about next few days , I understand.

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Post by GSC Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:37 am

England's day overall, any time you lose the toss and bowl, 8 wickets is a good outcome

That said if there's one weakness in this England team, it's batting big, so Australia will feel they're still in this. However like Broad, I sense a few other players like Cook and Trott have had enough of listening to Australia talk.
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Post by msp83 Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:59 am

Australia continue with their novel experiment of a reverse batting order. England disposed of the tail beginners without much fuss. But as they encountered the real batsmen, their bowling struggled just a little bit!!.

Seriously good stuff from Broad, this was always on the cards from the way the Australian media was treating him. Pretty bad idea to fire him up. Broad is not among my most favorite players from my 2nd favorite side, but I really wanted him to succeed today at the face of such unwanted and hypocritical hostilities. The rest of the boling unit also did a decent job.
David Warner and Steven Smith couldn't build on the starts, and same was the case with Shane Watson. But Brad Haddin played a fine hand with the bat. Mitchell Johnson is a very handy number 8 batsman, and with runs under his belt, he should be in a happy frame of mind when he takes the ball. So England better watch out.
The first day belongs to England, though Haddin and Johnson ensured that their side lives on to fight another day.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:01 am

KP's 100th test, been in for stick from the Aussie media, you gotta think he's gonna put in a performance...
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