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Post by Sir. badgerhands Fri 22 Nov 2013, 11:57 am

A truly awful week at work so I thought it was apt to concentrate on all things dark and evil in movies, so my top ten list of movie villains is below.

Would be interested to see anyone elses list.

1) Lil Zee - City of God - Bit of a biased one as this is one of my favorite movies. Interesting because the movie spans the characters whole life, from murderous child who guns down a score of people during a robbery too adulthood where the loss of his friend Bene seems to make him even more violent and unpredictable.

2) Don Logan - Sexy Beast - Mad as a bag of rats in a tumble dryer!! Wish someone had the time and money to remake Gandhi with Don Logan in the place of Gandhi. British rule would have ended a darn sight quicker.

3) The Joker (Heath Ledger) - Sure many will disagree, but did the whole psychopathic I'm doing bad things-but not explaining why I'm doing bad things-its mainly because I'm utterly bonkers thing very well. Also had a penchant for knives, never a good mix.

4) Alex - A Clockwork Orange - Anyone who can still carry an air of menace while wearing a bowler hat, fake eyelash and a codpiece gets my vote.

5) Darth Vader - StarWars - A 6 foot 5 inch giant dressed like his just stumbled out of a Berlin Red Light District Sado-Club. Just wish they'd kept his West Country accent in the movie. Would have been higher but for the fact that the most recent movies showed him to originate from a pouty tassle-haired teenager.

6) Jack Torrence - The Shining - Why wait patiently for the bathroom when you can just hack the door through. I read somewhere that Stephen King didn't want Jack Nicholson to star in The Shining due to Nicholson looking crazy from the outset of the movie. He wanted more of a slow-drip bonkers approach.

7) Dr. Szell - The Marathon Man - Lawrence Olivier - Nazi's are bad, Nazi's who take up unlicensed dentistry are worse.

8) Amon Goeth - Ralph Fienes - Schindlers List - A non dentistry Nazi who was also very bad.

9) Hannibal Lecter - Mainly for the first movie, he became a little paunchy and pantomine after that.

10) Keyser Soze - The Usual Suspects - Limping little kidder, he had us all falled.




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Post by Rowley Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:10 pm

Good list badger and good to see the truly crazy lil Zee atop the list. For me I would have found room for Joe Pesci’s character Tommy from Goodfellas, such a mix of charm and pure psychosis. Begby from Trainspotting is worth a mention as well.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:14 pm

Gordon Gekko ........Greed is good.......
General Zod.........Sup 1/2
Durant...........From Darkman
Bennett.......From Commando Laugh .......Freddie Mercury rip off.......
Dorian grey,,,,,,,,,,Extraordinary gentleman.......Loved that role..

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Post by Sir. badgerhands Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:17 pm

Mr. Rowley sir, Tommy and Begby were both given strong consideration, also Pesci's character in Casino.

Both in the same mould as Don Logan, terryfying because they seem very true to life (depending on what pubs you've frequented)!

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Post by westisbest Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:19 pm

Calvero - Magnificent 7. stealing food etc from a village.

Sean Nokes - Sleepers. Abusing young boys.

Just a couple.






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Post by Guest Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:19 pm

Problem is...are Begby and Tommy villains, because I found them endearing (says a lot about me I suppose)

Gary Oldman in "Leon"
Ray Winston in "Nil By Mouth"

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Post by Sir. badgerhands Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:22 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Bennett.......From Commando Laugh .......Freddie Mercury rip off
In his passing he gave us one of the greatest movie one liners. "Bennett went to let off some steam" or words to that effect.

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Post by Sir. badgerhands Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:24 pm

Dave, it's because their endearing that they are memorable.

Ray Winston in Nil By Mouth is a good shout, truly horrible character in a good but hugely grim film.

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:26 pm

I like Hans Landa fom Inglorious Basterds, thought he was a brilliant character

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Post by Galted Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:29 pm

Anton Chigurgh - No Country For Old Men
Nurse Ratched - One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
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Post by JuliusHMarx Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:32 pm

Khaaaaaaaaaannnn!

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Post by Galted Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:32 pm

& Ace Merrill from Stand By Me is quite underrated when it comes to being a menacing film b'stard.
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Post by seanmichaels Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:40 pm

Always thought De Niro's character was slightly more menacing than Pesci. In real life Tommy DeVito (Pesci) was well known as a loose cannon / psycho where as Jimmy Conway (De Vito) was attributed to a lot of the more sinister murders particularly of his own gang. The bit in the film where he is trying to lure Ray Liotta's missus into his clothing warehouse illustrates this perfectly.

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Post by Galted Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:43 pm

seanmichaels wrote:Always thought De Niro's character was slightly more menacing than Pesci. In real life Tommy DeVito (Pesci) was well known as a loose cannon / psycho where as Jimmy Conway (De Vito) was attributed to a lot of the more sinister murders particularly of his own gang. The bit in the film where he is trying to lure Ray Liotta's missus into his clothing warehouse illustrates this perfectly.
Agree with that but nothing's quite as menacing as the "how the f*** am I funny" scene even if he was just taking the p***.
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Post by Stella Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:46 pm

Vader
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The nuns in The Magdalene Sisters
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Post by Guest Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:48 pm

Apparently the real life Tommy was a 6ft plus monster not this tiny little guy with small man's syndrome.

Max Cady - Cape Fear (Mitchum or DeNiro - your choice)

Warden Norwalk(?) Shawshank Redemption

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Post by seanmichaels Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:54 pm

Galted wrote:
seanmichaels wrote:Always thought De Niro's character was slightly more menacing than Pesci. In real life Tommy DeVito (Pesci) was well known as a loose cannon / psycho where as Jimmy Conway (De Vito) was attributed to a lot of the more sinister murders particularly of his own gang. The bit in the film where he is trying to lure Ray Liotta's missus into his clothing warehouse illustrates this perfectly.
Agree with that but nothing's quite as menacing as the "how the f*** am I funny" scene even if he was just taking the p***.
I love the look on De Niro's face when he's shoeing the gangster who takes the urine out of Pesci. There's real concentration in his work.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:54 pm

Found that guy with the sweets a little disconcerting as a kid in Chitty chitty bang bang..

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Post by seanmichaels Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:55 pm

Freddie Kruger has to be top 10. Scared the living sh1t out of me for years in my childhood.

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:57 pm

Kurgen from Highlander

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Nov 2013, 12:57 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Found that guy with the sweets a little disconcerting as a kid in Chitty chitty bang bang..
Dick Van Dyke? Smile

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Post by Mr Bounce Fri 22 Nov 2013, 1:06 pm

gazzyD wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Found that guy with the sweets a little disconcerting as a kid in Chitty chitty bang bang..
Dick Van Dyke? Smile
Laugh 

That would be the Childcatcher for those that can't remember his name.

I always thought that Kathy Bates' character in Misery was pretty unhinged.

And Truss, it's "Let off some steam, Bennett!" thumbsup 

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Post by seanmichaels Fri 22 Nov 2013, 1:14 pm

Sir. badgerhands wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Bennett.......From Commando Laugh .......Freddie Mercury rip off
In his passing he gave us one of the greatest movie one liners. "Bennett went to let off some steam" or words to that effect.
Matrix: Where is she, Sully?
Sully: Kiss my ass!
Matrix: I can't hear you!
Sully: I'll say it a little louder, get Frak!
Matrix: [holds Sully upside-down over a cliff by his leg] Listen, loyalty is very touching. But it is not the most important thing in your life right now! But what IS important is gravity! I have to remind you Sully, this is my weak arm!
Sully: You can't kill me Matrix! You need me to find your daughter!
Matrix: Where is she?
Sully: I don't know. But Cooke knows, I'll take you to where I'm supposed to meet him!
Matrix: But you won't.
Sully: Why not?
Matrix: [holds the hotel key he stole from Sully that Cooke is staying at] Because I already know. Remember, Sully, when I promised to kill you last?
Sully: That's right, Matrix! You did!
Matrix: I lied.


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 22 Nov 2013, 1:22 pm

Mr Han in Enter the Dragon......"It is defeat you must learn to prepare for"

"I don't waste my time with it"........

Mr Han was a naughty boy.

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Nov 2013, 1:26 pm

seanmichaels wrote:
Sir. badgerhands wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Bennett.......From Commando Laugh .......Freddie Mercury rip off
In his passing he gave us one of the greatest movie one liners. "Bennett went to let off some steam" or words to that effect.
Matrix: Where is she, Sully?
Sully: Kiss my ass!
Matrix: I can't hear you!
Sully: I'll say it a little louder, get Frak!
Matrix: [holds Sully upside-down over a cliff by his leg] Listen, loyalty is very touching. But it is not the most important thing in your life right now! But what IS important is gravity! I have to remind you Sully, this is my weak arm!
Sully: You can't kill me Matrix! You need me to find your daughter!
Matrix: Where is she?
Sully: I don't know. But Cooke knows, I'll take you to where I'm supposed to meet him!
Matrix: But you won't.
Sully: Why not?
Matrix: [holds the hotel key he stole from Sully that Cooke is staying at] Because I already know. Remember, Sully, when I promised to kill you last?
Sully: That's right, Matrix! You did!
Matrix: I lied.

Speaking of Matrix...what about Agent Smith?

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Post by seanmichaels Fri 22 Nov 2013, 1:32 pm

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seanmichaels wrote:
Sir. badgerhands wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Bennett.......From Commando Laugh .......Freddie Mercury rip off
In his passing he gave us one of the greatest movie one liners. "Bennett went to let off some steam" or words to that effect.
Matrix: Where is she, Sully?
Sully: Kiss my ass!
Matrix: I can't hear you!
Sully: I'll say it a little louder, get Frak!
Matrix: [holds Sully upside-down over a cliff by his leg] Listen, loyalty is very touching. But it is not the most important thing in your life right now! But what IS important is gravity! I have to remind you Sully, this is my weak arm!
Sully: You can't kill me Matrix! You need me to find your daughter!
Matrix: Where is she?
Sully: I don't know. But Cooke knows, I'll take you to where I'm supposed to meet him!
Matrix: But you won't.
Sully: Why not?
Matrix: [holds the hotel key he stole from Sully that Cooke is staying at] Because I already know. Remember, Sully, when I promised to kill you last?
Sully: That's right, Matrix! You did!
Matrix: I lied.

Speaking of Matrix...what about Agent Smith?
Is he the guy who says 'Mr Anderson'? I do a good impression of that.

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Post by Sir. badgerhands Fri 22 Nov 2013, 1:33 pm

Sean you've watched Commando an unhealthy amount obviously Smile

A few that just missed out for me were:
Rutger Hauer in the Hitcher.
Norman Bates in Psycho.
Voldermort in Harry Potter.
Jimmy Saville in Jim'll Fix It.


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Post by superflyweight Fri 22 Nov 2013, 2:16 pm

Nurse Ratched from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's nest. What a c**t she was.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 22 Nov 2013, 2:30 pm

The girl from the Exorcist...........Definitely would have been grounded If she was my kid...

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Post by Galted Fri 22 Nov 2013, 2:31 pm

Patrick Bateman from American Psycho
Mr Blonde from Reservoir Dogs
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 22 Nov 2013, 2:33 pm

Pacino in Devil's Advocate..........

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Post by seanmichaels Fri 22 Nov 2013, 2:47 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Pacino in Devil's Advocate..........
Very good.

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Nov 2013, 3:10 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Pacino in Devil's Advocate..........
DeNiro in Angel Heart

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 22 Nov 2013, 3:24 pm

That poor girl with the sore asss would probably have Brando in last tango in Paris as number 1.........

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Fri 22 Nov 2013, 3:25 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:That poor girl with the sore asss would probably have Brando in last tango in Paris as number 1.........
He used butter to ease the passage.

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Post by compelling and rich Mon 25 Nov 2013, 10:35 am

great list badger, very similar to my list. couple of personal ones that people haven't mentioned i think

- kathy bates character in misery
- the clown from IT (single handily grew a whole generation of people being scared of clowns)
-not quite sure if you can count this one as a villian, but sergent hartmann from full metal jacket wasn't particularly a nice person
-would predator, alien and jaws count?
-scar from lion king
-alonzo harris (denzil washington in training day)
- the guy who shot bambi's mum
- the guy from pans labyrinth (for one particular scene with the bottle)
- john doe (spacey in se7en)

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Post by compelling and rich Mon 25 Nov 2013, 10:42 am

couple of others from my childhood:

bowie in labyrinth
the wolf from never ending story (always use to scare the crap out of me)

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Post by jimmyinthewell68 Mon 25 Nov 2013, 12:01 pm

Gary oldman from Leon . he played a few bathplugs in his time .

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Post by rIck_dAgless Mon 25 Nov 2013, 12:23 pm

Javier Bardum in no Country for Old men

The head of the Prison Officers in Shawshank redemption

Killer Joe - from the eponomously titled film, was a bit creepy

Most of the cast in "Martyrs"

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Post by Sir. badgerhands Mon 25 Nov 2013, 7:08 pm

All good ones being suggested.

Especially like the drill instructor from full metal jacket.

He was my text tone on my phone for a while. Awfully embarrassing when a stream of obscene language spilled from your pocket while queuing at the supermarket!!

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Post by Hoggy_Bear Mon 25 Nov 2013, 9:15 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
Max Cady - Cape Fear (Mitchum or DeNiro - your choice)

Mitchum's version was much better IMO.
I'd also suggest another character portrayed by Mitchum for this list, the Reverend Harry Powell from The Night of the Hunter

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Post by dyrewolfe Wed 27 Nov 2013, 4:59 pm

Megatron
Jabba the Hutt
Darth Sidious / Emperor Palpatine (far more sinister than Darth Vader IMO)
Dracula (Richard Roxburgh) from Van Helsing
Jigsaw
The Terminator (original movie - scared the hell out of me as a kid)
Zorg (Gary Oldman) from The Fifth Element
HAL 9000 from 2001: A Space Odyssey
Carrie
Damien from The Omen movies
Jason Voorhees
Satan (Peter Stormare) from Constantine
Cyrus Grissom (John Malkovich) from Con Air
Castor Troy (John Travolta/Nicolas Cage) from Face Off
Colonel Kurtz (Marlon Brando) from Apocalypse Now
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