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Post by Duty281 Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:58 pm

First topic message reminder :

Live on BBC 2 at 16:30 GMT. Here are the pots:

Pot 1 (top eight seeds): Brazil, Spain, Argentina, Belgium, Colombia, Germany, Switzerland, Uruguay.

Pot 2: Ivory Coast, Ghana, Algeria, Nigeria, Cameroon, Chile, Ecuador.

Pot 3: Japan, Iran, South Korea, Australia, United States, Mexico, Costa Rica, Honduras.

Pot 4: Bosnia-Hercegovina, Croatia, England, Greece, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal, Russia, France.


One team from Pot 4 will move into Pot 2.

England's hardest possible group: Brazil, England, United States, Netherlands (or maybe Italy)...it could happen!
England's easiest possible group: Switzerland, Nigeria, Honduras, England.

I've got my fingers crossed that we get the Argentines!

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Post by Guest Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:10 am

Obviously, Roy was talking about it as a place in terms of logistical reasons & for travelling from Rio. Mayor has mis-understood Roy's comments. The Amazon regions are of course beautiful places to visit & Roy would never disrespect the region & it's natural beauty, however, our sole focus is that of preparing for a football match of the highest importance & not trying to big up the tourism trade for the area. What does this Mayor expect? Pathetic really.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:11 am

which is good on this context.

The mayor is an over sensitive soul that's all. Took offence when none was intended

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:12 am

John wrote:Just got in. Saw the draw. Immediate reaction was picard 

After some reflection, actually feel quite happy that it's a tougher draw. I'm usually quite negative about England but there is a chance of qualifying out of this group. The Amazon game with 99% humidity means nothing when your playing a fellow European side, maybe without Pirlo this time. Italy are not a great side, yeah, better than us in possession, but they couldn't break us down in the Euro's. Keep Mario quiet & we've got every chance. Uruguay are a two man team. Cavani & Suarez. Defensively, nothing special. There is a reason they had to go through the playoffs & are officially the worst team from S. America going to the finals. Costa Rica should be 3 points. End of.

It's a toughie group but nothing we can't overcome, if we are at a good level from Game 1. If we qualify then we are looking at Ivory Coast or Colombia? Not bad.

Other interesting groups were Spain. I would not write off Chile in beating Netherlands to second in that group. France.....lucky gits. Roll on June 2014 (2am Shocked World Cup Draw - Page 2 1347041234 )
Yeah I pretty much agree John. Its a tough group, but one we can progress from if we play well. Uruguay did not qualify at all well, and I think we can hang with Italy on our day. I like that we've got a challenge at least, and I think there is room for quiet confidence!

Also France and Swiss in the same easy group? FIFA corrupt as ever....
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:16 am

Duty281 wrote:Italy couldn't take England at Euro 2012 - they've declined since then, whereas England have improve. England 1-1 Italy.

Uruguay have Suarez and Cavani, but we've got a solid defence, and plenty of good attacking players of our own. England 2-1 Uruguay.

Costa Rica are already defeated by this stage - England 2-0 Costa Rica.

Then a quick march to the last 16 against Colombia after topping the group, and England squeak through, 1-0. Wayne Rooney.

*Jerusalem starts playing in the background*

Quarter-Final time against Spain, and England shock the world by turning in their best performance for 13 long years. Gerrard rifles one in from 30 yards, and Lampard finally breaks his duck.

England, with the bit between their teeth, match Argentina over a gruelling 120 minutes in the semi-final, gradually tapping more and more into a rearguard. Just when you think England are defeated, the 3 Lions roar during the penalty shootout.

Then the final, and 1966 is repeated all over again. England, 2-1 winners over Germany, Wayne Rooney clinching the golden boot, Steven Gerrard lifting the trophy, and Roy Hodgson being knighted.

I am allowed to dream, after all.

Italy 1-1 England
England 2-1 Uruguay
England 2-0 Costa Rica
England 1-0 Colombia
England 3-1 Spain
England 2-2 Argentina (England triumph on pens)
England 2-1 Germany


#champions #believe
music "Land of hope and glory..." music #believe

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Post by Duty281 Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:16 am

OMEN TIME!

The last time England played Uruguay at a world cup, it was 1966 and they won the whole thing! #goodomen

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Post by Ent Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:18 am

Duty you were sure England were going to win euro 2012, and came out with the same absolute nonsense then.

Any chance of some realism? Fair enough be optimistic but this is taking the biscuit.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:20 am

33/1

the highest odds for an England win in my lifetime(probably all our lifetimes)

At that price I might have a piece


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Post by Guest Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:21 am

The last time England played Italy in the World Cup was in a 3rd place play off.

#DutyfeverstrikestheFreek!

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Post by Guest Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:22 am

6/1 weren't we after the USA/Algeria/Slovenia group came out.......

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Post by Guest Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:23 am

We were 16/1 to win the last WC John.

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Post by Ent Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:24 am

mystiroakey wrote:33/1

the highest odds for an England win in my lifetime(probably all our lifetimes)

At that price I might have a piece

Get your money on going out in the group stage.

First game in 99% humidity against team better at retaining the ball, 3000 mile round trip.

Second game against South American side who have just faced the weaker team in the group.

Recipe for disaster this.

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Post by Duty281 Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:26 am

Ent wrote:Duty you were sure England were going to win euro 2012, and came out with the same absolute nonsense then.

Any chance of some realism? Fair enough be optimistic but this is taking the biscuit.
Well I may have said that, but privately I expected semi-finals and out.

This time around, looking at the draw, the quarter-finals may be the summit of our expectations. If we top the group, it probably like this into the knockout stages: Ivory Coast/Spain/Argentina/Germany

If we come runner-up in the group, it might go like this: Colombia/Brazil/Germany/Spain

If England make the semis, they will have done bloody fantastically. Winning the whole thing isn't out of the question though if England hit the ground running.





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Post by Guest Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:28 am

mystiroakey wrote:33/1

Good trader that Myst. Back it then lay it should we progress from the group. That price will halve at least.


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Post by mystiroakey Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:28 am

Ent wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:33/1

the highest odds for an England win in my lifetime(probably all our lifetimes)

At that price I might have a piece

Get your money on going out in the group stage.

First game in 99% humidity against team better at retaining the ball, 3000 mile round trip.

Second game against South American side who have just faced the weaker team in the group.

Recipe for disaster this.
no value in going out group stages.

but at 33/1 thats not bad odds- even a good win v denmark could get me a lay to get my stake back and have a free bet

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:32 am

FreekShow wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:33/1

Good trader that Myst. Back it then lay it should we progress from the group. That price will halve at least.

Yep get out the group and we are going to 12/s

It's deffo worth a score

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Post by Guest Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:32 am

FreekShow wrote:We were 16/1 to win the last WC John.
Pretty sure we were 6/1 after the draw had been made because it was seen as easy.

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Post by Guest Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:33 am

mystiroakey wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:33/1

Good trader that Myst. Back it then lay it should we progress from the group. That price will halve at least.

Yep get out the group and we are going to 12/s

It's deffo worth a score
Gonna wedge a bit myself. Can't do no worse than the last WC. Lost nigh on a grand on that bitch Laugh 

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:34 am

For me getting out of the group will be a success. Anything else is seen as a bonus.

I'm more interested in the squad. I'd rather see the likes of Morrison, Redmond, Berahino, Barkley get in than the Young, Milner, Lennon's of the world. Give em the experience and they're a good option off the bench!
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Post by mystiroakey Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:35 am

I can remember us being between 6 and 12 for the last 15 or so years

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Post by Guest Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:36 am

John wrote:
FreekShow wrote:We were 16/1 to win the last WC John.
Pretty sure we were 6/1 after the draw had been made because it was seen as easy.
Nah just looked over my books ( I bet alot!) and we were best priced at 16's. We'd have been that price going into the QF's.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:36 am

FreekShow wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:33/1

Good trader that Myst. Back it then lay it should we progress from the group. That price will halve at least.

Yep get out the group and we are going to 12/s

It's deffo worth a score
Gonna wedge a bit myself. Can't do no worse than the last WC. Lost nigh on a grand on that bitch Laugh 
Yep all that in play betting lark . Tournies are expensive times laughing 

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Post by Dave. Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:55 am

I think the 2am game will be moved. Matches were moved in 2002 weren't they? 2am is prime time in America, so it'll suit Uruguay and Costa Rica more, and England Italy would play at 8pm.

Mind you, this is FIFA......

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Post by Duty281 Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:59 am

Dave. wrote:I think the 2am game will be moved. Matches were moved in 2002 weren't they? 2am is prime time in America, so it'll suit Uruguay and Costa Rica more, and England Italy would play at 8pm.

Mind you, this is FIFA......
It's starting that late though because of the sheer heat and humidity.

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Post by socal1976 Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:01 am

England needs to ditch some of the old guys and the ne'erdowells of the past. There is no way Lennon should see the field and Lampard to me has not played well enough to deserve a spot in the starting line up. I am a neutral and not as informed about the ins and outs of the team, but I have watched these guys play in the EPL and for the Lions a number of times and they have never impressed me. Lennon in particular is that rare player who has loads of pace and good dribbling ability but is completely worthless because he can neither shoot nor pass.

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Post by Dave. Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:01 am

Duty281 wrote:
Dave. wrote:I think the 2am game will be moved. Matches were moved in 2002 weren't they? 2am is prime time in America, so it'll suit Uruguay and Costa Rica more, and England Italy would play at 8pm.

Mind you, this is FIFA......
It's starting that late though because of the sheer heat and humidity.
Think Mannaus is hosting other games though at different times. I did actually mean changing stadium, too. Wasn't clear there.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:02 am

I think we'll scrape through. Interesting draw. Hodgson really should be thinking that if he can't manage an England team out of that group then he cant manage them at all. Not that its easy, far from it, but we'd have shown no signs of progression under him if we dont get through.

Could be interesting. Draw against Italy, Draw against Uruguay, beat Costa Rica. Go through second.

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Post by compelling and rich Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:30 am

italy dont tear any teams to shreds, it will be tight and cagey can easily see a draw, they totally out played us last time yet needed pens

Uruguay ageing rapidly, with some of the pace in our team we can really get at them at the back. need to be solid though as they do have great attacking threat.

costa rica we'll probably drop points against we often do when were expect to roll teams over!

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Post by Ent Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:35 am

There has been no progression under hodgson.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:38 am

True there hasn't.

Maybe a minor one. But that's it

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:38 am

Ent wrote:There has been no progression under hodgson.
I think there has been, certainly a better team to watch than his Euros side

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Post by compelling and rich Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:40 am

same old england wheel out the "big names" despite them not even playing that well anymore. if we start lampard and gerrard in midfield we'll be out in the groups.

i would like a manager with balls who could build a team that could challenge in future, were not challenging now no matter what. i would be more excited watching a midfield of morrison, barkley and wilshere over the midfield that has never produced for england that we will see in brazil

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Post by compelling and rich Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:43 am

also add that those mentioned might turn out rubbish, but we'll never know if they are not given chance to flourish, just bored of the same old england players who have proven they can not produce or dominate in the major occasions for england. if gerrard and lampard couldnt do it with scholes and beckham with them i doubt they will with james milner and wellbeck

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:46 am

Whilst we need some experienced heads, I do agree we need to take youngsters rather than the old has beens especially if they're just squad players like milner or young etc etc.

Think I saw somewhere the Germans last world cup squad had like 13 under 23's to England's 4? Will look it up again
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Post by Guest Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:47 am

It was only a better a watch in the qualifiers when we played the likes of Montenegro or Poland, where we could attack n be adventurous. As soon as the quality slightly increased in the opposition (chile, germany b).....it showed no progression n we lost. Continually picking Cleverley is just embarrassing from Roy. Roy is old-school and will always go back to what has been tried n tested. Hoping for Barkley, Morrison or Berahino on the plane is way off in my opinion. He might take one gamble pick but that's it.

The tactics will be defensive, especially now it's a tough tight group. Roy will sit tight n hit on the counter with welbeck n walcott/townsend supporting an isolated rooney. It will be difficult to watch.

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Post by Guest Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:48 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Ent wrote:There has been no progression under hodgson.
I think there has been, certainly a better team to watch than his Euros side
I thought Hodgson's style and philosophy was implemented perfectly during that tournament.


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Post by Ent Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:49 am

Don't get the fuss with morrison, a liability- hodgson would deserve sacking if he considered starting him in Brazil.

By all means take one young maverick for a subs appearance who might force himself into the side - no point in taking half a squad full of youngsters to get battered by hardened teams.

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Post by compelling and rich Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:49 am

agreed about the counter attacking john, its the only way i can see us being a threat though. we wont have the ball to create any other way.

the italy game in those conditions is going to be a real slog, not exactly known for there brilliant football themselves those italians

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:51 am

Ent wrote:Don't get the fuss with morrison, a liability- hodgson would deserve sacking if he considered starting him in Brazil.

By all means take one young maverick for a subs appearance who might force himself into the side - no point in taking half a squad full of youngsters to get battered by hardened teams.
Watch him and you'd soon see why.

Id say there is no point taking old heads to sit on the bench. No one learns anything from that. Lampard is 4th choice, cant see who benefits from him being there

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Post by compelling and rich Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:51 am

Ent wrote:Don't get the fuss with morrison, a liability- hodgson would deserve sacking if he considered starting him in Brazil.

By all means take one young maverick for a subs appearance who might force himself into the side - no point in taking half a squad full of youngsters to get battered by hardened teams.
he's got potential, certainly not a finished article and probably playing as well as lamps and gerrard in a much worse team.

we took all the experienced pros last time and was found out soon as we played a decent team

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:53 am

FreekShow wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Ent wrote:There has been no progression under hodgson.
I think there has been, certainly a better team to watch than his Euros side
I thought Hodgson's style and philosophy was implemented perfectly during that tournament.

Id totally agree, but that was more needs must.

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Post by Guest Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:54 am

Olly wrote:
Think I saw somewhere the Germans last world cup squad had like 13 under 23's to England's 4? Will look it up again
Par for the course with Germany Olly. They've always stuck with their older proven players whilst surrounding them with younger, hungrier players.

A recipe for success. Not that we'll ever follow suit.

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Post by Guest Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:55 am

compelling and rich wrote:agreed about the counter attacking john, its the only way i can see us being a threat though. we wont have the ball to create any other way.
thumbsup  it's the only way we will play without possession. roy is comfortable sitting tight n hoping for the 1-0 win.....that's what he does.

as for the squad the one gamble will be barkley, can see it a mile off. ravel way too young, risky and potentiall disruptive. he's a fantastic talent, showing it a West Ham but too early for me. Roy's even said he basically knows the squad he's taking. Taking a load of youngsters for experience would be a mistake, even if the older players arent much better lol. thats what the u-21 tournaments are for and what the other successful nations use to bleed their youngsters. not sure why we are so stupid to understand that process.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:56 am

Were screwed. Surrender our spot now i say.

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Post by compelling and rich Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:56 am

FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:
Think I saw somewhere the Germans last world cup squad had like 13 under 23's to England's 4? Will look it up again
Par for the course with Germany Olly. They've always stuck with their older proven players whilst surrounding them with younger, hungrier players.

A recipe for success. Not that we'll ever follow suit.
no we'll rather wheel out injured becks, owen and rooney over giving a fit player a chance because there a big "name", we'll also stick with a midfield that has never worked

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Post by Guest Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:03 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Ent wrote:Don't get the fuss with morrison, a liability- hodgson would deserve sacking if he considered starting him in Brazil.

By all means take one young maverick for a subs appearance who might force himself into the side - no point in taking half a squad full of youngsters to get battered by hardened teams.
Watch him and you'd soon see why.

Id say there is no point taking old heads to sit on the bench. No one learns anything from that. Lampard is 4th choice, cant see who benefits from him being there
Exactly. I'd rather see him play and bomb than see Lampard play and bomb, again.

You never know he might have a David Platt moment.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:06 am

If young morrison can stop acting like a child I would happiy take him, and even play him.

Wilshire would benefit from him no doubts- those two could pave a more intricate style of play- We also must understand youth will be an advantage= Its going to be hot. Staminia is a must.

Then Gerard is a starter and it has to be carrick to partner him for me..

Rooney and Welbeck up front.

I would go with Baines over Cole- because i believe he can provide some decent crosses.


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Post by mystiroakey Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:07 am

However if ox and Walcott get fit soon and get some starts at arsenal i may be inclined to go for those two instead of morrison and welbeck

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Post by Guest Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:10 am

mystiroakey wrote:However if ox and Walcott get fit soon and get some starts at arsenal i may be inclined to go for those two and morrison and welbeck
The ultra patriotic Myst trying to get 13 players on the pitch there Laugh

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:10 am

Walcott is always horrific for England don't forget though.

Ox hasn't played enough, Townsend could be a huge player for us.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:10 am

lol

I meant over Doh 

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