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Post by Young_Towzer Wed 18 May 2011, 6:14 pm

Nathan Cleverly will now fight Tony Bellew on saturday night at the o2 arena. That is what a source has suggested anyway! dont shoot me down if im wrong lol!

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Post by 88Chris05 Wed 18 May 2011, 6:16 pm

Strangely enough, as soon as I heard that Brahmer was out, I was thinking to myself that I'd love Bellew to be drafted in as a replacement; but I considered it so unlikely I didn't even bother posting it. Good news if what you're saying is true.
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Post by Scottrf Wed 18 May 2011, 6:18 pm

Yeah saw Bellew put his name in the hat. Would be decent last minute.

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Post by D4thincarnation Wed 18 May 2011, 6:18 pm

http://www.boxingscene.com/bellew-i-make-weight-im-ready-beat-cleverly--39301

Bellew, certainly seems to want it.

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Post by Guest Wed 18 May 2011, 6:20 pm

So we have the potential for two fights featuring a loudmouth vs a quiet unassuming type.

Sounds perfect

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Post by Young_Towzer Wed 18 May 2011, 6:20 pm

Strangely enough, as soon as I heard that Brahmer was out, I was thinking to myself that I'd love Bellew to be drafted in as a replacement; but I considered it so unlikely I didn't even bother posting it. Good news if what you're saying is true. .
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the only trouble is with him preparing for a fight with McKenzie in a couple of month will he be on the weight safely enough

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Post by Guest Wed 18 May 2011, 6:21 pm

Thinking about it, I'm not sure Frank would take the risk with Bellew. He's crude but he can bang and if Clev decides to stand and trade, who knows. Would love it to happen but I'm not convinced it will.

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Post by Young_Towzer Wed 18 May 2011, 6:23 pm

now i've read the link D4 i dont think the fight will be happening, if warren's said weight could be a problem i dont see him allowing 2 of his prospects to fight, an eastern bloc or Mohammedi will be drafted in, imo. Hope im wrong though because despite feeling Cleverly would beat Bellew within 6 it would be explosive!

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Post by azania Wed 18 May 2011, 6:23 pm

Will it be for the WBO interim Interim world Silver belt?

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Post by themadworldofjb Wed 18 May 2011, 7:24 pm

Ok, Boxrec are saying that Cleverly vs Bellew is on and that it will be for the full title.

Clev to win caus he has a better chin than Bellew.
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Post by themadworldofjb Wed 18 May 2011, 7:36 pm

Apprently Bomber has tweeted saying the fight is close to being made.
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Post by D4thincarnation Wed 18 May 2011, 7:38 pm

themadworldofjb wrote:Ok, Boxrec are saying that Cleverly vs Bellew is on and that it will be for the full title.

Clev to win caus he has a better chin than Bellew.

Should be a good fight, probably be better than the Braehmer fight would have been.

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Post by themadworldofjb Wed 18 May 2011, 7:40 pm

McKenzie exposed Bellew and was unlucky with a premature stoppage hence why a rematch was made.

For me, Clev wins by mid round stoppage. Bellew has great heart (but a suspect chin) and I think he'll be able to keep himself in there before Clev gets him outta there.
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Post by Sugar Boy Sweetie Wed 18 May 2011, 7:41 pm

Bellew is a one dimensional slugger with no world level potential IMO. However he is the best we can hope for at such short notice - if warren drafts in some east euro journeyman I'll not be handing my 15 quid over.

Braehmer is a joke, pulled out twice on the trot, typical German champ not wanting to fight anywhere where the judges won't be in his promotors pocket. Glad they finally stripped this clown of his title.
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Post by themadworldofjb Wed 18 May 2011, 7:44 pm

Nothing offcial on who the Champion is but if Bellew and speculation is to be believed then Clev will be made champion with Bellew challenging him.

Bellews best chance is that he lands first and that he can get to Clev becuase of Clev's training for a southpaw
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Post by Lumbering_Jack Wed 18 May 2011, 7:46 pm

Bellew is a domestic fighter and that is it. Cant really blame Fwank for this one though, best we can expect at such short notice.

Clev mid round TKO will relative ease.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Wed 18 May 2011, 7:50 pm

I can't see any better options tbh. Bellew should be in good condition. I think the fact that clev has trained for a southpaw makes it more competitive than usually.

Should be a good fight while it lasts

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Post by manos de piedra Wed 18 May 2011, 7:50 pm

I think Cleverly wins this but Its actually fight Id like to see. Bellew is exciting to watch, there is needle there already and the two styles could make it explosive.

If Warren want to keep ppv status the I think he will have to provide a name with a bit of recognition. An Eurobum wont do.

Two good all British grudge matches would be intersting. Not that fussed about Braehmer anyway so Bellew would be a good replacement.

I wonder wil they change Groves/De Gale to top billing though?

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Post by themadworldofjb Wed 18 May 2011, 7:51 pm

They said on Sky that an opponant needed to be in the country at least three days in advance so really Bellew is the only logical opponant out there.
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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Wed 18 May 2011, 7:55 pm

In Clevs last fight an opponent was drafted in late and he didn't cope well with it although the guy was awkard and spoiling. Bellew is wide open and chinny so I would expect Clev to win by mid round stoppage.
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Post by themadworldofjb Wed 18 May 2011, 7:55 pm

I think the fight has been made. Its just that they are waiting to confirm what the fight will be for i.e. full or interim WBO title
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Post by themadworldofjb Wed 18 May 2011, 8:28 pm

According to Livefight.com, it could well be on.

Heres the link:

http://www.livefight.com/news.php
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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Wed 18 May 2011, 8:33 pm

themadworldofjb wrote:According to Livefight.com, it could well be on.

Heres the link:

[url=http://www.livefight.com/news.php
http://www.livefight.com/news.php[/quote[/url]]

I'll believe it moe when it comes from a reliable source.
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Post by themadworldofjb Wed 18 May 2011, 9:48 pm

http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/tony-bellew-box-nathan-cleverly-wbo-title

More reliable for you?
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Post by Scottrf Wed 18 May 2011, 10:18 pm

themadworldofjb wrote:http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/tony-bellew-box-nathan-cleverly-wbo-title

More reliable for you?
That'll do. Fairly happy with that.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Wed 18 May 2011, 10:32 pm

Tony Bellew has just tweeted saying it's getting closer but not a done deal yet. He has also said he is not a stone over he's 6 and a half pounds over.
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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Thu 19 May 2011, 7:29 am

It's just been confirm o sky sports news. Good replacement and I think it still warrants a PPV place(only just) as it's another bitter rivalry to accompany the groves-degale rivalry. This fight was going to happen at some point and now seems like a decent time. It's a shame that this couldn't get hyped up as i think ther eis enough of a rivalry there to make it a attractive fight for fight fans.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Thu 19 May 2011, 8:04 am

Didn't think it was PPV in the first place despite being 'a' world champion Braehmer wasn't exactly one of the top guys at the weight, just the usual european level fight who got a manufactured title opportunity. Bellew, Cleverly, Degale and Groves are reasonably well known but none of them have achieved anything so can't see why it's PPV.

Comparisons to Haye or Khan aren't relevant as they are big draws so can realistically command PPV almost every time they fight, a better comparison would be to Froch who despite fighting levels above Cleverly, being more exciting and being a genuine world champion has never garnered enough attention to be worthy of SBO.

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Post by Scottrf Thu 19 May 2011, 9:23 am

Cleverly is now fighting...Nathan Cleverly.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=324239&cat=boxer

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Post by shenglong1983 Thu 19 May 2011, 9:31 am

I noticed Cleverley was fighting Cleverley on Boxrec this morning!

I think this might be a wrng move for Bellew this early in his career and I wasnt convinced of his win over Bob Ajisafe.

Does anyone know if the WBO will make Cleverley the new WBO champion, and if so does this mean Bellew will be fighting for a world title on Saturday night?

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Post by Jukebox Timebomb Thu 19 May 2011, 9:40 am

I suppose it's not a bad opponent at such short notice. Surprised Bellew took it, he has a whole two days prep.

http://www1.skysports.com/thisisit/story/21163/6939482

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Post by Scottrf Thu 19 May 2011, 9:42 am

shenglong1983 wrote:I noticed Cleverley was fighting Cleverley on Boxrec this morning!

I think this might be a wrng move for Bellew this early in his career and I wasnt convinced of his win over Bob Ajisafe.

Does anyone know if the WBO will make Cleverley the new WBO champion, and if so does this mean Bellew will be fighting for a world title on Saturday night?
Depends if he makes weight I guess, but Cleverly is the WBO Title Holder.

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Post by Jukebox Timebomb Thu 19 May 2011, 9:43 am

shenglong1983 wrote:I noticed Cleverley was fighting Cleverley on Boxrec this morning!

I think this might be a wrng move for Bellew this early in his career and I wasnt convinced of his win over Bob Ajisafe.

Does anyone know if the WBO will make Cleverley the new WBO champion, and if so does this mean Bellew will be fighting for a world title on Saturday night?

Yes it is for the WBO title.

Interesting that you mention Bob Ajisafe. Team Cleverly were obviously sceptical about south-paw Braehmer turning up from the start so draughted in Orthodox sparring partners, including Ajisafe, just in case.

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Post by compelling and rich Thu 19 May 2011, 1:37 pm

Good press conference! Making degale v groves seem friendly

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Post by The_Phenom Thu 19 May 2011, 1:41 pm

compelling and rich wrote:Good press conference! Making degale v groves seem friendly

This is hilarious, Bellew has been escorted out for squaring up to Cleverly and calling him a F*****G Rat! lmao

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Post by Day V Lately Thu 19 May 2011, 1:43 pm

I know many dont like him, but its a shame a lot of top boxers arent as fearless as Bellew.

I fancy him being stopped having said that.

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Post by coxy0001 Thu 19 May 2011, 1:49 pm

Personally it's Clev by UD which is 5/2 on Skybet, has a bit of a habit of not impressing huge amounts when he needs to. Class above Bellew IMO and i don't think Clev cracks all that much.

Saying that Clev will probably do what Ovill M couldn't and put him down early and keep him down.

Am leaning towards Degale UD (11/2 - AMAZING ODDS!) & Clev UD though... double bet = 22/1... worth a cheeky £10 on

Heck, Degale by UD @ 11/2 are amazing odds!!!!

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Post by compelling and rich Thu 19 May 2011, 1:52 pm

Bookies are obviously seeing a knockout coxy

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Post by coxy0001 Thu 19 May 2011, 2:01 pm

compelling

Being the optimist i am i'd be surprised if the fight lives up to expectations. Can see Groves trying to rough up Degale and drag him into a war, which'll just create an ugly fight....

And saying that we'll probably get a fight for the ages, with both men hitting the deck 3 times each, before one of them gets off the floor twice in the 10th behind on the cards and find the hailmary to end it!

Wink

11/2 @ UD is too tempting to turn down to be honest

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Post by Seanusarrilius Thu 19 May 2011, 2:05 pm

i fully expect bellew to hit the canvas once or twice and be stoppeb. But he deserves full credit for taking this, it will be entertaining and fiery while it lasts. i am actually looking forward to this as much as the other fight. this could of been built up well with domestic rivalry. only issue is obviously bellew no way on earth deserves a world title fight but lets be honest, now adays, who care

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Post by Day V Lately Thu 19 May 2011, 2:06 pm

would you risk throwing in a bhop ud for a treble, coxy?

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Post by coxy0001 Thu 19 May 2011, 2:11 pm

Not a chance with the BHop fight.

My official prediction would be Pascal by a more clear cut PTS decision... Know i was saying different a few days back but i've made up my mind that i reckon Pascal is going to have trained harder (he did gas) and be more switched on for this one.

UD = 15/8

Tempted to have a treble of those 3... returns a whopping 66/1 which is worth a cheeky £5 on... isn't it?!

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Post by coxy0001 Thu 19 May 2011, 2:13 pm

Ok i couldn't resist Clev/Degale/Pascal all by UD @ a whopping 64/1.... £5 has now left my Skybet account... £327 back which was just too much of a carrot dangler!

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Post by Day V Lately Thu 19 May 2011, 2:13 pm

of course it is, in my head the winnings are already spent!!

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Post by compelling and rich Thu 19 May 2011, 2:13 pm

Coxy

Still undecided on hotw I see it so far, most of the time I've been thinking degale mid to late stoppage. But I agree that I doubt it will live up to the billing, pretty hard to really would have to be gatti v ward to match the hno hype. And the odds for points is very good as the knockout is no done deal

Anybody else think the "fight" between clev and tony could have been staged to strum up some intrest, or just me being cynical

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Post by Day V Lately Thu 19 May 2011, 2:17 pm

i hope not, c an r, as I wanna give Bellew the credit for havin the balls to take it, and givin us a good press conference, after the subdued david haye, and quite frankly the weird wladamir!

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Post by Small Time Thu 19 May 2011, 2:29 pm

Day V Lately wrote:i hope not, c an r, as I wanna give Bellew the credit for havin the balls to take it, and givin us a good press conference, after the subdued david haye, and quite frankly the weird wladamir!

I don't know if it's ballsey in his mind.....He sounds off like he genuinly believes he's as good as a prime Tyson, I personally see it going 3-6 depending on how long the ref wants Bellew to be beaten up for. Then of course we'll get the excuses.

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Post by Day V Lately Thu 19 May 2011, 2:30 pm

Confident or even deluded, still dont think many unbeaten prospects would take it, or even many fighters

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Post by themadworldofjb Thu 19 May 2011, 2:45 pm

ANy links to the vid of this press conference?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSyUrbzK7sk

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