Burns Vs Crawford: views?

How do you guys see this going Saturday?

I like Ricky, seems like a decent kid but have a feeling Crawford might have enough to take his belt. Hope I'm wrong though.

Hope Crawford blows the lucky Scot away......

Excuse after excuse from this guy who's only decent win was the underachieving Mitchell.....

Have a sneaking suspicion Crawford wins 9 rounds and loses a split though.....

Hope Burns wins seems one of boxing a nice guys. Someone who has grafted his nuts off and made the best of his ability , however seen quite a bit of Crawford and he looks a little too cute and smart for Burns, I reckon Ricky's corner may pull him out 8-10 rounds.

Cheers Rodders

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Hope Crawford blows the lucky Scot away......

Excuse after excuse from this guy who's only decent win was the underachieving Mitchell.....

Have a sneaking suspicion Crawford wins 9 rounds and loses a split though.....

Lets forget about Martinez, Katsidis and Moses then Truss.

Not seen a lot of Crawford but Burns seems to have lost a bit of edge recently so think he loses his title.

Katsidis had been battered off Guerrera..........Come on you can do better than that !!

So what, everybody loses and losing to a p4p superstar can't be that damaging can it, it's not for Khan.

Martinez, Katsidis, Moses and Mitchell are all good wins, the heart he showed in beating Gonzalez was immense as well while it was also evident in the Beltran fight. He's the beneficiary of one pretty poor decision and suddenly everything good that he has done is instantly forgotten.

Moses.........The one who parted the red sea.............Or the one banged out fighting for the WBA in 6 just before...???

.......and you say Khan and Maidana are nothing opponents for Floyd..........

A walloped by Guerrera and punchdrunk Katsidis, Mitchell and Moses are worthy title opponents...........though apparently..

What's the matter with you Mate............You are debating like a hypocrite.....

Like I said you can do better than that !!......You aren't Izzy..

Burns will lose

They were all ranked inside the top ten at Lightweight, you know the division that Burns fights in, they were more than worthy opponents. He has the benefit of not being considered the best of his generation so can get away with opponent choices that apparent greats can't. Surely after months of this crap you can finally understand that?

I see that clown Eddie Hearn claims Ricky Burns is the best lightweight in the world. 

Sorry to break it to him, but Miguel Vazquez is the boss at lightweight. 

Burns is an average fighter and the weakest title holder at 135. I hope Crawford retires him.

Hoping for a Burns win but expecting Crawford. Burns is always entertaining and has been great for British boxing and Scotland in general but he appears to have gone back over in recent times. I'm hoping it's just a blip. Great heart though in the last couple of fights even though he hasn't fought the best. Not sure why he gets stick after fighting for most of his last fight with a career threatening injury.

Been really impressed with Crawford from some years and he'll take this easily. He's a smooth operator who can switch seamlessly from orthodox to southpaw and he has power in both hands in both stances. Burns was ruined by gonzales who is similar to Crawford but not as proven and won't pull out after chasing this chance for ages. Burns is a good fighter but a fighter who's been lucky to still have his belt and I can't see him lasting the distance against crawford so the judges won't be needed

Crawford UD. Just looks too good defensively for Burns. Not sure he has the power to get Ricky out of there but can see him winning well enough. I like and admire Burns a lot, but I think he's got his work cut out here.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:So what, everybody loses and losing to a p4p superstar can't be that damaging can it, it's not for Khan.

Cute   

Gerry SA wrote:I see that clown Eddie Hearn claims Ricky Burns is the best lightweight in the world. 

Sorry to break it to him, but Miguel Vazquez is the boss at lightweight. 

Burns is an average fighter and the weakest title holder at 135. I hope Crawford retires him.

Just looked into his record, couldn't believe it. Not only has he lost to Bradley but also CANELO??!

Wowzers, not a criticism, just amazed he fought/lost to guys now at or near the top of their game at much higher weights.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:So what, everybody loses and losing to a p4p superstar can't be that damaging can it, it's not for Khan.

Cute   

Still desperately trying to wum his way into a fight........

Still not interested...Sorry !!

If I'm interested in you I'll quote you.

Rodney wrote:Hope Burns wins seems one of boxing a nice guys. Someone who has grafted his nuts off and made the best of his ability , however seen quite a bit of Crawford and he looks a little too cute and smart for Burns, I reckon Ricky's corner may pull him out 8-10 rounds.

Cheers Rodders

Does seem a down to earth..engaging young man......

In over his head I believe this time..

Burns will lose this and badly. Crawford is way too skilled. Not even a panel of Burns' family will be able to score this for Burns.

Really put myself out there on this one. Expect a Burns win via 3rd round KO.

Have you been drinking Sean ??

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Have you been drinking Sean ??

Well, it's Happy Hour somewhere. No, I haven't. Why?

Is your first post sarcastic in some way ??

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Is your first post sarcastic in some way ??

Haha, yes. The second line. The first line I truly believe. Burns has no chance.

It is a mouth watering fight..........

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Gerry SA wrote:I see that clown Eddie Hearn claims Ricky Burns is the best lightweight in the world. 

Sorry to break it to him, but Miguel Vazquez is the boss at lightweight. 

Burns is an average fighter and the weakest title holder at 135. I hope Crawford retires him.

Just looked into his record, couldn't believe it.  Not only has he lost to Bradley but also CANELO??!

Wowzers, not a criticism, just amazed he fought/lost to guys now at or near the top of their game at much higher weights.

Yeah he fought Canelo at 140 and 147. Bradley at 140.

It took the best to beat him.

Vazquez is very underrated.

As much as I like Burns his last two fights have suggested that his time at the top is done. Can't question his toughness but I don't see how he beats Crawford judging by what I have seen (granted its not much). Ricky is going to have to be beyond his best so far to get though this.

'the best' except Alvarez was a 2-0 newbie with no amateur experience in their first bout (though I suppose they were equally inexperienced I guess).

Given that you consider Mikey Garcia a hype job, I'm not sure what you see in Vazquez by comparison.

He could only SD Breidis Prescott, who then got schooled by Kevin Mitchell in his next fight and beat by Paul McKloskey a couple after that.

TopHat24/7 wrote:'the best' except Alvarez was a 2-0 newbie with no amateur experience in their first bout (though I suppose they were equally inexperienced I guess).

Given that you consider Mikey Garcia a hype job, I'm not sure what you see in Vazquez by comparison.

He could only SD Breidis Prescott, who then got schooled by Kevin Mitchell in his next fight and beat by Paul McKloskey a couple after that.

Vazquez was considerably smaller against Canelo. Canelo is a natural MW/SMW. Whereas Vazquez is a LW/LWW at a push. 

As for the Prescott fight, Vazquez was the underdog. Prescott was top 10 ranked lightweight by three of the four major organisations. 

Vazquez took all Prescott had to offer and beat him. Need I remind you, Vazquez was the first man to beat Prescott. 

Mikey Garcia has mentioned he'd like to fight Vazquez in the future. Vazquez schools Garcia. Easy as pie.

But they still fought at the same weight? The fact Canelo has since grown into his more natural LMW/MW (not SMW) body is neither here nor there.

You can try over-sell Prescott all you want, he's a bum, a club-fighter, getting handled easily by Mitchell and McKloskey makes you fodder not 'top ranked'.

And so what if he was the 'first man'. That's meaningless without context. Prescott feasted on bums and only narrowly lost to the first half decent guy he fought, he was then schooled by any half good (Khan aside) oppo he's fought since.

Your final line proves you're a wum, or just an idiot. Nothing on Vasquez's CV puts him in anywhere near the same league as Garcia, it'd be over in 3 rounds.

Mccloskey - Prescott was contentious it has to be said..

People are saying Burns is finished/past it, I disagree with that expression, just think he's found his level. Still seems a very fresh/in his prime fighter. Cannot see him win this one though I said the same thing about most of his previous opposition..

You don't know how in his prime he is till Saturday..

Took a battering last time out..........

Probably about to take another one. Hope not though...for what its worth, the only round where his jaw wasn't broken (1) he won quite openly I think. (not quite by a country mile as his namesake would put it, but a clear enough won round.) just food for thought

I gave Rosario one of the first four against chavez..

TopHat24/7 wrote:But they still fought at the same weight? The fact Canelo has since grown into his more natural LMW/MW (not SMW) body is neither here nor there.

You can try over-sell Prescott all you want, he's a bum, a club-fighter, getting handled easily by Mitchell and McKloskey makes you fodder not 'top ranked'.

And so what if he was the 'first man'. That's meaningless without context.  Prescott feasted on bums and only narrowly lost to the first half decent guy he fought, he was then schooled by any half good (Khan aside) oppo he's fought since.

Your final line proves you're a wum, or just an idiot. Nothing on Vasquez's CV puts him in anywhere near the same league as Garcia, it'd be over in 3 rounds.

Miguel Angel Garcia's three best wins are against Salido, Juanma and Martinez. 

All three shopworn and guys Garcia had a huge size advantage over. 

Garcia is just another Rios.

When he fights Vazquez it's all over for Garcia's hype. If Gamboa doesn't expose him first.

The other Garcia's career was over when he fought Matthyse according to 95% on here.

Gerry SA wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:But they still fought at the same weight? The fact Canelo has since grown into his more natural LMW/MW (not SMW) body is neither here nor there.

You can try over-sell Prescott all you want, he's a bum, a club-fighter, getting handled easily by Mitchell and McKloskey makes you fodder not 'top ranked'.

And so what if he was the 'first man'. That's meaningless without context.  Prescott feasted on bums and only narrowly lost to the first half decent guy he fought, he was then schooled by any half good (Khan aside) oppo he's fought since.

Your final line proves you're a wum, or just an idiot. Nothing on Vasquez's CV puts him in anywhere near the same league as Garcia, it'd be over in 3 rounds.

Miguel Angel Garcia's three best wins are against Salido, Juanma and Martinez. 

All three shopworn and guys Garcia had a huge size advantage over. 

Garcia is just another Rios.

When he fights Vazquez it's all over for Garcia's hype. If Gamboa doesn't expose him first.

Who the hell has Vasquez fought better??!!

Because the only guys he's fought that come close - he's lost too!!

To put it in further context, they're roughly the same age and have the same number of fights (albeit your boy has managed to lose 3 times and has a poor ko ratio) and looking purely at Boxrec (which compares records on a purely statistical basis on the back of the records of people beaten/lost to), it has Mikey in at #18 p4p and Vasquez only #23.

It's not perfect, but it's bet than the crock of Poopie analysis your spouting.

Really looking forward to this fight, think it could be an interesting one. Crawford seems to be the favourite, and probably rightly so, but he perhaps lacks experience at the top level (never been more than 10 rounds?) This might work in Burns favour if the fight goes longer, as Burns has proved time and again how tough he is. Crawford and his team may be in danger of taking Burns too lightly as from the interviews I've heard, they appear to have only seen the last 2 fights from Burns, neither of which really showcased his talents. If Ricky fights the right fight, he could outwork Crawford.

Unless Burns improves dramatically from his last two performances, I can see this being an embarassing night for him. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in his last fight and say the broken jaw hampered him, but I think he loses tomorrow. I'm going to take a wander down to the weigh in at lunchtime as the atmosphere should be good.

Anyone see Sky's LW world rankings? Crolla in at ten. Shameless.

Crolla at 10...Gotta love Eddie....

Crawford tko 9

Lomo tko 7.....

Have a good weekend boys....

cheers..

I want Burns to win, but crawford takes the decision in my opinion, if burns does win, am still in line to win a decent amount of money

If the Burns of his previous 2 fights turns up he will lose badly, however if he is at his absolute best he could still win this. I think A game Burns is a real handful for anyone in the division, that's of course if he still has it in the locker, Crawford also wont have been in the kind of atmosphere he will experience on Saturday night before and we dont know how he will handle it.
Most likely result Crawford on points, but wont be surprised if Burns turns all our predictions on their head.

Went down to the weigh in. Spoke to Glenn mccrory. He thinks the fact Crawford hasn't done 12 rounds before may play a part in it. Both fighters looked relaxed. Crawford got some boos then made some kind of gesture to the crowd which riled them up and they gave him loads of abuse. Anthony Joshua is a monster in the flesh. Absolutely huge.

Sadly, i see this being quite a one-sided fight. Ricky's a cracking lad, and has done tremendously well to establish himself as a world-level operator, but i fear he's past his peak, and obviously he was quite lucky in his last two fights in very different ways. Have concerns about his jaw, too.

Crawford by mid-rounds stoppage.

Spoke to some fans in America and they seem to believe Crawford is the real deal and are tipping him pretty big in this one. However one thing they did say, which could give Burns hope is that Crawford sometimes has a tendency to drift in fights and allow his output to drop. If he does this against Burns it might be enough to give Ricky a chance of nicking rounds, up against a partisan crowd and with favourable scoring this could cost Crawford.

Am really loath to pick against Burns as he does have a tendency to make light of pre fight odds but fear he is losing his title tonight.

The Scottish Sun are reporting boxing is in the gutter following Crawfords "gesture", I didn't think that paper could get much worse.

I've got to go with Crawford in this fight, Ricky hasn't looked at his best in his last two fights which leads me to believe a midround stoppage is on the cards.

I'm looking forward to Crawford schooling Burns. 

Burns made Beltran, a high end journeyman, look world class. 

Crawford is many leagues above Beltran. 

Burns is the weakest titlist at 135.

Everybody is a journeyman according to you Gerry, makes a mockery of the term when it's used for everyone.

I'm hoping for a Burns win, if he's back on form I think his jab and work rate will be enough for the victory.