Rumours of a Fix in the Canelo v Angulo Fight

There are quite a few people in Mexico who believe the Alverez v Canelo fight was a fix.

Juan Manuel Marquez took to twitter to call the fight a fix.  It's in Spanish but basically Marquez is saying the result was "artfully planned". https://mobile.twitter.com/jmmarquez_1/tweets

Immediately after the fight Floyd Mayweather Sr made the following comments:

“It didn’t seem like he [Angulo] was throwing punches back to try and hurt Canelo,” Mayweather Sr. said to esnewsreporting. “It just looked like he was taking punches to me. It just seemed to me like he wasn’t trying to hit Canelo back hard at all. He wasn’t coming in strong; he was taking punishment.”



Then an article appears on a boxing website in Mexico claiming GBP are being investigated by the FBI for fight fixing.The translation is a bit rough but you can get the idea, see below.


Who knows?  Thought I would relay for a bit of chatter.


http://boxaldia.com/2014/03/10/el-fb...oy-promotions/


Translation:

FBI INVESTIGATING THE ARRANGEMENTS IN BOXING BY GOLDEN BOY PROMOTIONS

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Isaac Guerra

After the controversial fight last Saturday gave the Mexican Alfredo 'El Perro' Angulo before Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has intensified a serious investigation that takes months to detect arrangements in professional boxing, especially with Golden Boy Promotions.

In researching the name Alfredo Angulo figure now, but it's Shane Mosley, who happened to Alvarez fought, and to top it off, it emerged that fighters of the block of Golden Boy Promotions as Victor Ortiz among others are involved.

A source close to the investigation revealed www.boxaldia.com already interviewed several fighters, some of them have sold their fights accepted, so starring Alfredo Angulo foot gave investigations are arreciaran.

The names that come to light in the research are Richard Schaefer, Eric Gomez and Oscar de la Hoya, especially since it is the banker who runs the company money and finance and are monitoring the movements.

Following the defeat of Angulo, FBI agents learned that he will be making a visit this week to the offices of Golden Boy Promotions in this week and will make a visit to the 'Dog'.

Research is already reaching where FBI investigators were waiting, takes days to know the results are.

"We interviewed several fighters, they even talk that someone spoke with a Uruguayan representative to see if the accounts add up in certain fights that worked with them, there are fighters with whom he talked and not even the agencies are to engage much with the company, you know it's hot zone, "the spokesperson told

Disgraceful rumours.

To suggest someone would just stand there and take that much health-endangering abuse for 'faking it' is disgusting.

TopHat24/7 wrote:Disgraceful rumours.

To suggest someone would just stand there and take that much health-endangering abuse for 'faking it' is disgusting.

Quite a lot of talk about Angulo pulling his punches.

Trying to think what Floyd Sr would have to gain considering his boy is linked to GBP.

Well, I did say in one of the other threads that I've never seen anyone push out their punches so meekly in the opening 3 rounds as Angulo did.

But still can't see it.....

Nothing much would surprise me in boxing. The fight didnt have the air of one being taken all that seriously. Angulo was crap, his trainer didnt seem bothered, Alvarez didnt make weight. Looking at Angulo coming into the ring he didnt look up for it at all. And I wouldnt trust that sweaty cretin Schaeffer one bit.

Marquez is a bitter old Love sacks though. Must be all the p1ss hes been drinking but he has nothing good to say about any fighter. He is well known for being critical of Alvarez. Jealous of his easy route to stardom I think.

All well and good STRONGY but we're waiting for you to explain how it's all Eddie Hearn's fault

DAVE667 wrote:All well and good STRONGY but we're waiting for you to explain how it's all Eddie Hearn's fault

  

DAVE667 wrote:All well and good STRONGY but we're waiting for you to explain how it's all Eddie Hearn's fault

Eddie is too insignificant to influence the big leagues. The only time Eddie gets involved with the big boys is when he sends his fighters to America to get slaughtered.

Strongback wrote:Eddie is too insignificant to influence the big leagues.  The only time Eddie gets involved with the big boys is when he sends his fighters to America to get slaughtered.

No agenda eh.

JabMachineMK2 wrote:

Strongback wrote:Eddie is too insignificant to influence the big leagues.  The only time Eddie gets involved with the big boys is when he sends his fighters to America to get slaughtered.

No agenda eh.

Are you suggesting what I typed about Eddie is not factual?

JabMachineMK2 wrote:

Strongback wrote:Eddie is too insignificant to influence the big leagues.  The only time Eddie gets involved with the big boys is when he sends his fighters to America to get slaughtered.

No agenda eh.

He's just playing pantomime villain now, no point reacting to it.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

JabMachineMK2 wrote:

Strongback wrote:Eddie is too insignificant to influence the big leagues.  The only time Eddie gets involved with the big boys is when he sends his fighters to America to get slaughtered.

No agenda eh.

He's just playing pantomime villain now, no point reacting to it.

You don't seem to be able to handle the truth.

That's an extremely stretch definition of 'truth'.

You're basically just the board's replacement Az.

TopHat24/7 wrote:That's an extremely stretch definition of 'truth'.

You're basically just the board's replacement Az.

So how many big match ups has Eddie won away from home?

The truth hurts sometimes.

Ok, Az.

Strongback wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:That's an extremely stretch definition of 'truth'.

You're basically just the board's replacement Az.

So how many big match ups has Eddie won away from home?

The truth hurts sometimes.

Froch has won a couple hasn't he...or doesn't he count?
Oh yeah, didn't Kell Brook win in America too?

In Eddie’s defence who has he actually sent to America to be slaughtered. Purdy obviously lost pretty big, but did not deserve the shot and the location was irrelevant, he just was not good enough. However had he not gone to the states he would not have got the shot or the payday. Same is almost certainly true of Rees.

The hyperbole police have been after Strongy for a while.

Rowley wrote:In Eddie’s defence who has he actually sent to America to be slaughtered. Purdy obviously lost pretty big, but did not deserve the shot and the location was irrelevant, he just was not good enough. However had he not gone to the states he would not have got the shot or the payday. Same is almost certainly true of Rees.

Darren Barker and that's just for starters.

Strongback wrote:

Rowley wrote:In Eddie’s defence who has he actually sent to America to be slaughtered. Purdy obviously lost pretty big, but did not deserve the shot and the location was irrelevant, he just was not good enough. However had he not gone to the states he would not have got the shot or the payday. Same is almost certainly true of Rees.

Darren Barker and that's just for starters.

Darren Barker??

You mean the guy that went to the States and fulfilled a lifelong dream and #1 career goal by winning a World title??

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Strongback wrote:

Rowley wrote:In Eddie’s defence who has he actually sent to America to be slaughtered. Purdy obviously lost pretty big, but did not deserve the shot and the location was irrelevant, he just was not good enough. However had he not gone to the states he would not have got the shot or the payday. Same is almost certainly true of Rees.

Darren Barker and that's just for starters.

Darren Barker??

You mean the guy that went to the States and fulfilled a lifelong dream and #1 career goal by winning a World title??

He's just doing that thing where he offers one - its rebuffed - then he brings out a few more ridiculous ones and the other poster gives up from boredom.

Darren Barker won!

If you are referring to his first defence in Germany, he was offered a £1m purse, and Eddie negotiated a rematch clause. Given Barker has a career riddled with injuries what were his other options to make that kind of money, take four defences in his own back yard against lesser opponents? What happens if the injury flairs up in his first defence, he is £750k down and still does not have his title. The Sturm fight was a risk, but given the purse was a perfectly understandable one.

Does make me laugh, we bemoan the likes of Cleverly for defending in his own back yard against tomato cans, but when a fighter travels to take a proper opponent we still moan.

He moaned about the first Froch/Groves fight being a mismatch so what are you expecting Rowley, it's just a different angle each day.

Rowley wrote:Darren Barker won!

If you are referring to his first defence in Germany, he was offered a £1m purse, and Eddie negotiated a rematch clause. Given Barker has a career riddled with injuries what were his other options to make that kind of money, take four defences in his own back yard against lesser opponents? What happens if the injury flairs up in his first defence, he is £750k down and still does not have his title. The Sturm fight was a risk, but given the purse was a perfectly understandable one.

Does make me laugh, we bemoan the likes of Cleverly for defending in his own back yard against tomato cans, but when a fighter travels to take a proper opponent we still moan.

He also lost in America.

Let's use it against Hearn that he got Barker a shot at the divisions kingpin, what exactly is wrong with that?

Plenty HH what Hearn should have done is blag him into a vacant title and then lined him up 10 defences at home against fighters none of us have ever heard of.

Rowley wrote:Plenty HH what Hearn should have done is blag him into a vacant title and then lined him up 10 defences at home against fighters none of us have ever heard of.

Gibberish again Rowley, I'm getting concerned about you, i'll get you some help...NURSE...oh I see what you mean.

Rowley wrote:Plenty HH what Hearn should have done is blag him into a vacant title and then lined him up 10 defences at home against fighters none of us have ever heard of.

I'm really struggling to understand what Strongys issue with Hearn is because from what I can see he's done the best he could for his fighters and while his cards aren't stacked to the brim we've been treated to a fair few decent match ups. He got home advantage for Froch against both Bute and Kessler, the former of which when he was at a crossroads after losing to Ward. He gets Barker a £1mil purse, he's not fed bums to Burns, got Bellew a title shot against the legitimate number one, gets Purdy a shot he wasn't deserving of, Quigg has become a champion of sorts.

If you asked his stable how happy they were with their match ups I would guess a very small minority have been left disillusioned.

Like I said, he's just being a child and playing pantomime villain.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:

Rowley wrote:Plenty HH what Hearn should have done is blag him into a vacant title and then lined him up 10 defences at home against fighters none of us have ever heard of.

I'm really struggling to understand what Strongys issue with Hearn is because from what I can see he's done the best he could for his fighters and while his cards aren't stacked to the brim we've been treated to a fair few decent match ups. He got home advantage for Froch against both Bute and Kessler, the former of which when he was at a crossroads after losing to Ward. He gets Barker a £1mil purse, he's not fed bums to Burns, got Bellew a title shot against the legitimate number one, gets Purdy a shot he wasn't deserving of, Quigg has become a champion of sorts.

If you asked his stable how happy they were with their match ups I would guess a very small minority have been left disillusioned.

Looking forward to the Liverpool card this weekend are we?

I get to see how Bellew, Mitchell and Fielding fair in rebuilding/building fights so yes I am, less interested by the Brook fight but then again I don't have an agenda against Hearn so wont fight fault in everything like you.

TopHat24/7 wrote:Like I said, he's just being a child and playing pantomime villain.

My points are valid. Eddie is just like a Warren. He's put on quite a few Warrenesque cards in the last 18 months.

Eddie' is a wizard when it comes to putting on mismatches and he's got a speciality in losing his fighters their belts.

Eddie is a poor match maker. If people want to go through his record I'll happy go along.

So, he's a poor matchmaker when his guys fight dross, and then when he gets them once in a lifetime opportunity for a big pay day against a top dog he's also a poor matchmaker.

What a joke you are.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:I get to see how Bellew, Mitchell and Fielding fair in rebuilding/building fights so yes I am, less interested by the Brook fight but then again I don't have an agenda against Hearn so wont fight fault in everything like you.

Mitchell 1/100
Fielding 1/50
Bellew 1/12


Enjoy!

You should learn to read Strongy or is your hatred for Hearn blinding you too much.

TopHat24/7 wrote:So, he's a poor matchmaker when his guys fight dross, and then when he gets them once in a lifetime opportunity for a big pay day against a top dog he's also a poor matchmaker.

What a joke you are.

You're nothing but a loud mouth, empty vessels makes the most noise, try putting some content in your posts.

Eddie has sent fighters off to get slaughtered for peanuts.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:You should learn to read Strongy or is your hatred for Hearn blinding you too much.

Nothing will be learned from these fight. Zilch, zero nada.

Which of his fighters have been sent off to be slaughtered for peanuts, try and back up your claims for once.

Let me get this straight, I enjoy watching boxing, I enjoy watching Mitchell and Fielding fight but I can't enjoy it this weekend because you've said so?

Having watched the fight and initially said to my brother that i was confused as to why Angulo wasn't throwing his punches with power or any pop.

Just plodded forward and took some shots all night.

NOW .....having read this.....i really wouldn't be shocked if this was true

I have to be honest, during the time I was watching the fight I didn't think that Angulo was hitting him that hard, I was absolutely certain that Angulo could throw harder shots than that...

However I refuse to believe that Hunter would be any part of that!

Mind you I picked Angulo to stop Canelo late so....

Strongback wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:So, he's a poor matchmaker when his guys fight dross, and then when he gets them once in a lifetime opportunity for a big pay day against a top dog he's also a poor matchmaker.

What a joke you are.

You're nothing but a loud mouth, empty vessels makes the most noise, try putting some content in your posts.

Eddie has sent fighters off to get slaughtered for peanuts.

Content? What, like yours do?

Your only content is Eddie-hating bile. I don't have the same chip on my shoulder as you so funnily enough my posts don't contain the same drivel.....

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Strongback wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:So, he's a poor matchmaker when his guys fight dross, and then when he gets them once in a lifetime opportunity for a big pay day against a top dog he's also a poor matchmaker.

What a joke you are.

You're nothing but a loud mouth, empty vessels makes the most noise, try putting some content in your posts.

Eddie has sent fighters off to get slaughtered for peanuts.

Content? What, like yours do?

Your only content is Eddie-hating bile.  I don't have the same chip on my shoulder as you so funnily enough my posts don't contain the same drivel.....

Go and chase after Truss like a little school girl. That all I ever see from you.

God Strongback I actually haven't met anyone as unselfaware as you, please tell me you are not like this in real life?

Strongback wrote:


Looking forward to the Liverpool card this weekend are we?

I don't like Their Satanic Majesty's Request. Does that make the Rolling Stones rubbish?

Yes, but a good kind of rubbish

Funnily enough Shah, when I posted the comment it was not to start a debate about the Stones' relative merits, it was more to illustrate what a badly constructed and specious argument it was on Strongy's part. This is because for it to have any merit it would have to be based on the assumption that either any of us have ever argued every card Eddie puts on is amazing (we haven't) or that one poor card makes everything else they have done rubbish (it doesn't)

Rowley wrote:

Strongback wrote:


Looking forward to the Liverpool card this weekend are we?

I don't like Their Satanic Majesty's Request. Does that make the Rolling Stones rubbish?

I never really took to The Stones, their mid-60's stuff is good though.

I'm more of a Who man. With Eddie it's a case of "Don't Get Fooled Again".

Can't be that big a fan. It's "Won't get fooled again".

Strongback wrote:

Rowley wrote:

Strongback wrote:


Looking forward to the Liverpool card this weekend are we?

I don't like Their Satanic Majesty's Request. Does that make the Rolling Stones rubbish?

I never really took to The Stones, their mid-60's stuff is good though.

I'm more of a Who man.  With Eddie it's a case of "Don't Get Fooled Again".

He also does a good version of My Generation - People try to put us down, talking 'bout my generation