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Post by GunsGerms Mon 07 Apr 2014, 3:16 pm

John Joe Nevin is an Irish Olympic silver medalist from a traveller family. A real talent, John Joe turned professional this year after Olympic sucess in London and impressed in his first professional fight earlier in the year. He had 5 pro fights lined up for later in the year but alas an incident last weekend may have ended his very promising career prematurely. In acting as peace keeper in a family feud he was battered by a golf club and a cudgel with nails sticking out of it. Aparently his leg has been broken in two places and his bone was sticking out.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/john-joe-nevin-undergoes-second-surgical-operation-on-horrific-leg-injuries-30162302.html

Best of luck on your recovery John Joe. Phoenix from the flames!!


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Post by hazharrison Mon 07 Apr 2014, 3:21 pm

Didn't Eamonn Magee suffer a similar assault?

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Mon 07 Apr 2014, 3:28 pm

Terrible news

Hope he gets well

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Post by Strongback Mon 07 Apr 2014, 6:37 pm

There was a pro boxer beaten up in Belfast when he was out for a run a good few years ago. I think he was South American and was jumped as he jogged along Donegal Pass. If memory serves me right he was getting ready to fight on a Wayne McCullough card.

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Post by spencerclarke Mon 07 Apr 2014, 7:17 pm

hazharrison wrote:Didn't Eamonn Magee suffer a similar assault?

Yeah I seem to remember he was getting out of his car outside his house when he was attacked.

Shocking thing to happen to such an exciting prospect.

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Post by compelling and rich Mon 07 Apr 2014, 8:41 pm

does anybody else read "acting as peace keeper in a family feud" and think reffing in a bare knuckle fight

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Post by Strongback Mon 07 Apr 2014, 8:57 pm

compelling and rich wrote:does anybody else read "acting as peace keeper in a family feud" and think reffing in a bare knuckle fight

It's been reported that there are a number of traveller families at war living in the same area as Nevin. It seems a rival family went to his home and smashed him up. From what I have seen of him he seems a quite unassuming type.

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Post by GunsGerms Mon 07 Apr 2014, 9:10 pm


Im from Mullingar myself. It isnt unusual to have traveller family feuds in the area or bare knuckle boxing down by the lake. Could have been anything though. Real shame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS3-4OcjJlY&feature=youtube_gdata_player



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Post by Strongback Mon 07 Apr 2014, 9:22 pm

Seems to be a lot of travelers in the midlands. I remember being in Athlone once and it was full of them.

Not too many of them around the border counties where anti social behavior was weeded out by the gun.

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Post by 3fingers Tue 08 Apr 2014, 10:08 am

Glen Foot, prizefighter winner, may have had his career cut short also......attacked on his estate in Sunderland with a machette just after christmas. His arm was to the bone, six tendons sliced straight threw.

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Post by GunsGerms Tue 08 Apr 2014, 10:32 am

Thats seriously nasty.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue 08 Apr 2014, 10:56 am

spencerclarke wrote:
hazharrison wrote:Didn't Eamonn Magee suffer a similar assault?

Yeah I seem to remember he was getting out of his car outside his house when he was attacked.

Shocking thing to happen to such an exciting prospect.

Bit more to it that that. Magee wrecks the guys kids snowman, mouths off to his wife then plants a sneeky headbutt on the guy. The guy in question just happens to be a guy you a) don't mess his kids snowman b) mouth off to his wife and c) headbutt him. He got followed in his car and the guy trailed him out and give him a pasting with a baseball bat. Two wrongs don't make a right, but better judgement of who you are starting grief on is always a good start.

Its not the first time Magee hit people, he broke his missus' nose with his forehead a few years back too, the guy is scum.
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Post by rodders Tue 08 Apr 2014, 11:10 am

Terrible story guns - I recall watching JJ in the Olympics and looked a really exciting prospect. Hope he can bounce back.

I wouldn't draw compassion with Magee - two unrelated incidents.
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Post by GunsGerms Tue 08 Apr 2014, 11:31 am

Im not an expert in boxing but it seemed to me that one of his real strengths was his footwork. Very fast feet, he seemed quite elusive. Really hope that such a serious leg injury is surmountable and he can return to the form he was at and the promise he showed.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Tue 08 Apr 2014, 4:40 pm

3fingers wrote:Glen Foot, prizefighter winner, may have had his career cut short also......attacked on his estate in Sunderland with a machette just after christmas. His arm was to the bone, six tendons sliced straight threw.

Not exactly the nicest bloke himself though it seems.........

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/crime/sunderland-boxer-facing-jail-over-cowardly-attack-1-3969721

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Post by 3fingers Tue 08 Apr 2014, 9:35 pm

Dont always believe what you read toppy. It was a known bully (the bouncer) picking on the wrong person at the wrong time (Glen). The bouncer broke his ankle when he fell. The injurys warranted punishment. Self-defence has a criterion in the eyes of law. Boxers get a hard-time when they defend themselves. Courts look for proportionality. When a boxer defends himself, invariably, the other party is injured, sometimes seriously.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 08 Apr 2014, 9:48 pm

The only criterion of any relevance is whether the accussed felt there was a clear and present danger to his well being and if it is proved there was he then has to react with reasonable force.

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Post by Strongback Tue 08 Apr 2014, 10:06 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:The only criterion of any relevance is whether the accussed felt there was a clear and present danger to his well being and if it is proved there was he then has to react with reasonable force.


I'm sure you walk around looking for clear and present danger so you can use reasonable force..........in your dreams anyway.

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Post by 3fingers Wed 09 Apr 2014, 8:55 am

Hammersmith, If there is clear and present danger from someone at least 5 stone heavier than you, someone who you are unable to overpower or restrain, then the immediate way to stop the danger is to use your fists. Boxers punch quite hard so the recipient often sustains damage of some measure. The courts/media harshly criticise fighting sportsmen - because they regard their hands as weapons. Everyone has the right to self defence, but proportionality is paramount. However, do the courts expect you to punch a bigger opponent assailant softly simply because you trained to use your fists? They are out of touch with reality if that is the case. The truth is when under threat from a dangerous behemoth, you'd punch them until the threat was removed out of fear they'd get back to their feet and do the same to you. Unfortunately, when that happens, it often doesn't constitute self-defence.

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Post by GunsGerms Wed 09 Apr 2014, 9:26 am

Update

Aparently further x-rays have revealed that both John Joe's legs are broken. He is likely to spend some time in a wheelchair.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/john-joe-nevin-told-both-his-legs-were-broken-in-attack-1.1754734

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Post by 3fingers Wed 09 Apr 2014, 9:38 am

Bad news dude. Wishing him a swift recovery.

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Post by Strongback Wed 09 Apr 2014, 9:54 am

I remember reading a story about an American boxer who shot a robber. His defense in court was 'if I had punched the robber I could have killed him.'

This could be an urban legend of course.

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Post by 3fingers Thu 12 Jun 2014, 7:07 pm

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/crime/boxer-who-almost-lost-arm-in-machete-attack-is-set-to-fight-again-1-6669216

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Post by milkyboy Thu 12 Jun 2014, 7:39 pm

Glen foot... Wasn't that mackem's mate? Didn't realise he'd been attacked. Good to hear he's had a full recovery... Wish him well

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Post by 3fingers Thu 12 Jun 2014, 7:50 pm

That it was milky.

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Post by Guest Fri 13 Jun 2014, 11:34 am

3fingers wrote:Hammersmith, If there is clear and present danger from someone at least 5 stone heavier than you, someone who you are unable to overpower or restrain, then the immediate way to stop the danger is to use your fists. Boxers punch quite hard so the recipient often sustains damage of some measure. The courts/media harshly criticise fighting sportsmen - because they regard their hands as weapons. Everyone has the right to self defence, but proportionality is paramount. However, do the courts expect you to punch a bigger opponent assailant softly simply because you trained to use your fists? They are out of touch with reality if that is the case. The truth is when under threat from a dangerous behemoth, you'd punch them until the threat was removed out of fear they'd get back to their feet and do the same to you. Unfortunately, when that happens, it often doesn't constitute self-defence.
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