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Post by Calder106 Thu 06 Mar 2014, 3:35 pm

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Wilshere out for 6 weeks according to BBC. Hairline fracture on foot. Considering Arsenal have been nursing him through the season because of his ankle injuries I think it would be a risk taking him (not questioning his ability) due to the tight schedule of games.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed 04 Jun 2014, 7:21 pm

I think the point is fitness and options. Rooney will definitely track.

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Post by Duty281 Wed 04 Jun 2014, 7:22 pm

And the Times did predict the correct team.

So..I'm most interested to see how Oxlade and Barkley do; two very talented players with one game to push themselves into the manager's thoughts at this crucial juncture. Milner, as well, for I rather like the idea of him slotting in at right-back or, at the very least, putting pressure on Johnson for that position.

Wilshere and Rooney can continue to build their fitness, one hopes.

The likes of Lambert, Lampard, Shaw, Jones, Smalling, and Foster can hopefully get some decent playing time, and showcase why England's depth is more than decent this year.

One is also wondering that, with Sterling on the bench yet again, is that a sign that he'll be utilised just as a subsitute option? I certainly hope not, because he's in fantastic form.

Remember - performance over result!

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Post by owen10ozzy Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:00 pm

I'm actually looking forward to seeing Milner at right back; lets be honest he's a work horse and nothing else so wasted in an attacking role as he just doesn't have the ability to unlock world class defences going forward. So let's see how he does there...

Chance for Oxlade and Barkley to push there claim for a place...be interested to see how the latter does in that 10 role...

Now onto the negatives...I actually think the selection of Rooney all but confirms that Welbeck will start on the left against Italy. That leaves for me ...the right midfield and 1 CM role open for the taking.

I've said all along he will start with Lampard and Gerrard in midfield and I still think he will; I think he will use this game and what should be a decent performance from Lampard (given the opposition) to justify giving him a slot alongside Gerrard against Hondurus in the last friendly.

Rooney should only get 45 mins here as I want to see Sterling come on...

Hopefully at half time we see Rooney off...Oxlade go out left...Sterling come on at RM...Lampard go off and Barkley drop into CM with Lallana coming on in the 10 role.

That would be my preference.

I just think that this line up stinks of giving those who will barely won't feature during Brazil (bar Lamps & Wilshere & Milner) a game before the WC!

Here we go anyway...

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Post by GSC Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:08 pm

Ecuador look a poor side
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Post by Fernando Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:08 pm

Yet they are 1-0 up

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Post by GSC Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:09 pm

Yes fortunately Smalling and Jones are equally poop
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Post by mystiroakey Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:10 pm

7 mins gone and ok it's only 7 mins. But this second team look so much better 
 Kiss of death lol... One chance and one goal to Ecuador. Shame

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Post by Hero Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:10 pm

Good to see the communication between future teammates Shaw and Smalling is bordering on telepathic.

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Post by owen10ozzy Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:11 pm

Best hope cahill & jags don't get injured. Milner at RB not looking like a great pick atm.

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Post by Guest Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:21 pm

Milner having a mare. Wilshere offers nothing. England getting the run around, expected really with this mish-mash of a side. Barkley a major positive though.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:22 pm

Proper game of football this.

Bad defense good aggressive attack.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:29 pm

LOLbert. Rooney scores

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Post by Fernando Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:29 pm

1-1 Shrek

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:29 pm

Honestly just cannot understand how Ben Foster got picked ahead of Ruddy (and Forster for this game)

He does so many basic things wrong, he doesn't command, he makes horrible decisions (already got away with going walkies once in this game), just shocking
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Post by mystiroakey Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:30 pm

Maybe a lucky goal there. Looked handball

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:30 pm

BUT ROONEY IS AWFUL WAAAAAAA
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Post by mystiroakey Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:33 pm

He isn't awful tonight that's for sure. Looks fit as a fiddle

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:33 pm

Foster is mental

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:35 pm

Olly wrote:Honestly just cannot understand how Ben Foster got picked ahead of Ruddy (and Forster for this game)

He does so many basic things wrong, he doesn't command, he makes horrible decisions (already got away with going walkies once in this game), just shocking

And he's off on walkies again. Tragedy he's playing ahead of Forster/Ruddy, absolute tragedy
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Post by Hero Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:43 pm

In 2006 England went to the WC with centreback options of Rio Ferdinand, John Terry, Jamie Carragher and Sol Campbell. Ledley King didn't even make the reserve list.

This year we go with Gary Cahill, Phil Jagielka, Phil Jones and Chris Smalling.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:46 pm

Take the positive lads. It's entertaining football.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:47 pm

Arguably the best ever pair we had are in that. Terry and Ferdinand were very very good. Its our weakness now.

But you could look back at the options Germany had around Gerd Muller and laugh that their choice now is 35 year old Klose

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Post by GSC Wed 04 Jun 2014, 8:48 pm

Mixed bag. Ox has been good when direct. Barkleys done alright, still looking for end product. Wilsheres done well recycling the ball.

Defense all over the place, Rooney wasted out wide, Lambert anonymous
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Post by sportform Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:03 pm

owen10ozzy wrote:Best hope cahill & jags don't get injured. Milner at RB not looking like a great pick atm.
I think Chris Smalling will be the backup to Glen Johnson at right back in the World Cup.
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Post by GSC Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:06 pm

Chris Smalling should be right back in his living room
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Post by sportform Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:06 pm

Hero wrote:In 2006 England went to the WC with centreback options of Rio Ferdinand, John Terry, Jamie Carragher and Sol Campbell. Ledley King didn't even make the reserve list.

This year we go with Gary Cahill, Phil Jagielka, Phil Jones and Chris Smalling.
Though we did get to the Quarter Finals in 2002 with Danny Mills, Trevor Sinclair, Nicky Butt and Emile Heskey in the team.
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Post by Fernando Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:08 pm

2-1 Lambert

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:09 pm

Ross Barkley...incredible. What a strike Lambert too!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:09 pm

Fantastic goal that
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Post by sportform Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:10 pm

Great run by Barkley, fantastic finish by Lambert.
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Post by sportform Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:13 pm

Ecuador are alot more open than Peru were. Peru defended very strictly with two banks of four. Barkley and Oxlade-Chamberlain have done well but have had much more space than those who played in the last friendly.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:19 pm

RUT OH
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Post by mystiroakey Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:19 pm

Great. Just what we need.

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Post by GSC Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:20 pm

Ox and Wilshere should start in Manaus. Barkley or Rooney, hell of a call to take
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Post by owen10ozzy Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:21 pm

Love it...Oxlade injured...so flanagan on and the attack minded milner pushed into midfield  Doh 

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:24 pm

Will Owen say anything positive before the end of the world cup?!

I'm offering odds of 8/1 he will Whistle
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:25 pm

GOD WHY HAS HE DONE THAT IN A FRIENDLY?!

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Post by Fernando Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:27 pm

2-2

Epic strike from the Ecuadorian

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:27 pm

WHAT A GOAL

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Post by owen10ozzy Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:27 pm

Already have; check the thread Wink

Why I get lambasted for being negative is beyond me....it's like saying be confident about Khan's chances against a puncher....history suggests I shouldn't be!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:28 pm

That's a fantastic goal as well
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Post by Kurt N. Jurqa Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:30 pm

Milner Smash!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:31 pm

I  heart JOHN STONES
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Post by owen10ozzy Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:32 pm

Lampard useless....counted 17 misplaced/poor passes tonight!

Cracking goal btw!

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Post by Fernando Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:35 pm

Fight - Valencia grabs Sterling by the throat randomly.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:35 pm

EFF off Valencia you utter naughty naughty boy
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Post by Fernando Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:35 pm

Sterling & Valencia sent off. No idea why Sterling has been tackle didn't seem that bad.

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:36 pm

Crazy...

Sterling did nothing wrong. Valencia is a D1chead

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:37 pm

Why was Sterling sent off?? Useless referee

In other news the mighty mighty Italians are showing there class again as they are dominating Luxembourg..

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Post by mystiroakey Wed 04 Jun 2014, 9:37 pm

I would like to hear socals take on that useless Yank ref

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