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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Mon 19 May 2014, 3:31 pm

First topic message reminder :

In becoming Louis Van Gaal's Assistant Manager in this new Manchester United side, Giggs has also announced his retirement. The Winger who was running down the wing became the midfielder tearing teams open with beautiful passes. 40 years old, a mass amount of medals and one of the sweetest left foots this league will ever see. Is there really anyone else who can compare to Ryan Giggs in the Premier League era?

Wonderful goals, variation in play, medals, longevity, grace and, most important, talent in abundance; can anyone really compare? Sure Henry was world class in his spell, sure Ronaldo was arguably the best player in the world at one point, Shearer may have bagged a lot of goals...but have any been Ryan Giggs?

And where does he list in the United greats of all time? Arguably the symbol of everything that worked for United, and then seeing him marginalised in the year United were their worst.

Debate the above and talk about the wonderful moments of one of the greats. The last true great for those of us who grew up with the Premier League era.

Giggs' Open Letter to the fans:
Today is a fantastic day for Manchester United. Louis van Gaal is a great appointment and let me begin by telling you how delighted I am to be working with someone of his calibre. His credentials are second to none and I'm positive the club will thrive under his leadership over the coming years.

I would also like to take this opportunity to announce my retirement from professional football and embark upon a new and exciting chapter in my life, as assistant manager of Manchester United. I am immensely proud, honoured and fortunate to have represented the biggest club in the world 963 times and Wales 64 times. My dream was always to play for Manchester United, and although it saddens me to know I won't be pulling on a United jersey again as a player, I have been lucky enough to have fulfilled that dream playing with some of the best players in the world, working under an incredible manager in Sir Alex Ferguson, and most of all, playing for the greatest fans in world football. I have always felt and appreciated your support.

I want to also give a huge thanks to the backroom staff and support teams we have and have had at Manchester United over the years. I would not have achieved the success I have without your continuing dedication and commitment to creating the best environment to enable the players to thrive. I would not have won 34 trophies in my career without you. I would also like to say a special thanks to my friends and family for all your love and support.

For me, today is a new chapter filled with many emotions - immense pride, sadness, but most of all, excitement towards the future. United fans I hope will share and echo my belief that the club, the management and owners, are doing everything they can to return this great club to where it belongs, and I hope to be there every step of the way. To the greatest fans in world football, thank you, I have loved every minute of playing for you and representing the biggest and best club in the world.

See you next season.

Ryan

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Post by compelling and rich on Wed 21 May 2014, 2:45 pm

if ginola was better than giggs why was he he never played for a top side? giggs didnt stand out in that season beacuse he was in one of the greatest sides the prem has seen. ginola was standing out as a big fish in a small pond

scott parker has also won the player of the year, does that mean he's better than yaya?

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Wed 21 May 2014, 6:29 pm

This debate is getting really strange now, Giggs when he first burst on to the scene was the poster boy of the club and was an incredibly exciting winger and yes people did flock to watch him. It was only after the emergence of Beckham that his appeal started to dwindle because to put it simply they were different personalities so it was something they were both happy with.

Great players step up when you need them most and that is exemplified by his FA cup goal against Arsenal, we're not talking about Messi doing it against Getafe but doing it against the best defence in England at the time in a huge game when we were down to ten men.

Ginola won POTY in 1999 because like i've said many times which United player would you have voted for that year there must have been at least 6 contenders; Stam, Keane, Scholes, Beckham, Giggs, Yorke and Cole.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Thu 22 May 2014, 8:17 am

Ginola reached a peak that Giggs never did. What Giggs did do was have the ability to be very good over an incredible time period. Like I said initially if you take into account how long he's been around then he's a contender if we're actually talking about ability then no where near for me the greatest players and not in the top 3 best left wingers.

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune on Thu 22 May 2014, 9:27 am

The Manutards are out in flow.

Giggs over Henry Laugh


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Post by compelling and rich on Thu 22 May 2014, 3:39 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:Ginola reached a peak that Giggs never did. What Giggs did do was have the ability to be very good over an incredible time period. Like I said initially if you take into account how long he's been around then he's a contender if we're actually talking about ability then no where near for me the greatest players and not in the top 3 best left wingers.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Thu 22 May 2014, 5:43 pm

Ginola was so highly regarded that he spent his time in England at Newcastle, Tottenham and Villa, there wasn't a sniff from the big teams. He was good but he's being grossly over rated just to belittle Giggs who in the mid 90's hit an astonishing level, teams didn't tend to sniff around our players back then because they knew they had no chance of signing them unless Fergie decided that their time was up.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu 22 May 2014, 6:02 pm

Ginola was better at peak than Giggs?! Jesus wept, thats a mental statement. Properly dribble heavy

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Post by compelling and rich on Thu 22 May 2014, 6:11 pm

his best season was a mighty six league goals and doesnt even feature on the all time list of assists, under the likes of boa morte, diouf, swp  picard 

ginola wasnt much different than the likes of a ben arfa, brillant on his day. but lazy and only turned up every now and again. either he has no clue about giggs career, anti united bias effecting his judgement or he's seen premier league years a couple of times and seen couple of great goals and judging ginola on that. although he also said overmars was better as well so he could just be that clueless

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Fri 23 May 2014, 8:22 am

And he didn't play for Man U; I get it.

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Post by J.Benson II on Fri 23 May 2014, 2:19 pm

Giggs was more effective than Ginola (who was very talented though).
Pires or Overmars against Giggs is close. Both those guys were quality.

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