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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 13 Jul 2014, 7:40 pm

First topic message reminder :

Seeming as we have such a short turnaround thought I'd stick up a thread

England have added Simon Kerrigan to the squad interestingly. I'd imagine he must be in serious contention, or else what's the point of adding another body?
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Post by msp83 Thu 17 Jul 2014, 2:57 pm

This pitch retains life even now, though England hasn't bowled very well, a couple of good balls can do the damage. It will be difficult to defend your way out of trouble and then build a score, Pujara tried that and eventually a good ball came and got him. So as you are never quite in on this track, they have to play more shots and be positive when you are there.

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Post by Gerry SA Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:13 pm

Test is England's for the taking.

India getting steamrolled

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Post by GSC Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:14 pm

Dhoni follows for one. Anderson to Jadeja anyone.
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Post by msp83 Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:14 pm

Disgusting behavior from the crowd at the HQ as Ravindra Jadeja comes in.
Time for Jadeja to play an innings of substance.

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Post by alfie Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:15 pm

250 Test wickets for Broad  clap 

Not Dhoni's day.

Jadeja in ...where's Jimmy ?

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Post by GSC Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:16 pm

You'd be surprised if Jimmy isn't on imminently.
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Post by msp83 Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:16 pm

Ajinkya Rahane has got to 20, he's the last hope for India. Moeen Ali is on, they should go after him.

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Post by GSC Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:18 pm

Not sure Cook isn't overthinking this Ali spell. Keep the seamers at it.
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Post by kingraf Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:21 pm

Shane Warne speaking about his domination of Cullinan is always a good laugh.
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Post by alfie Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:23 pm

msp83 wrote:This pitch retains life even now, though England hasn't bowled very well, a couple of good balls can do the damage. It will be difficult to defend your way out of trouble and then build a score, Pujara tried that and eventually a good ball came and got him. So as you are never quite in on this track, they have to play more shots and be positive when you are there.

Well those two wickets have changed things a lot. Not jagging around as it did before lunch , but the ball is still doing enough to make batting a whole different proposition from what it was at Trent Bridge !
I think there will be help for the Indian bowlers too ; so this game is nicely poised at present. These two and Binny have a job to do. Not forgetting Kumar the new batting star  Smile 

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Post by alfie Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:25 pm

Moeen Ali gets Jadeja !

One for Cook's hunch , contrary to the urging of Warne and everyone else in the commentary box  Smile 

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Post by Mat Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:26 pm

Moeen!!

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Post by msp83 Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:26 pm

No significant contribution from Jadeja, Anderson wasn't needed, Ali gets him LBW for 3.

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Post by alfie Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:26 pm

GSC wrote:Not sure Cook isn't overthinking this Ali spell. Keep the seamers at it.

Must admit leaning that way myself...hah ! What do we know  Smile 

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Post by GSC Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:29 pm

Jadeja caught pushing at the ball there
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Post by msp83 Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:29 pm

forget 250, even 150 looks difficult.
All down to Bhuvneshwar to restrict the England lead.

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Post by GSC Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:31 pm

alfie wrote:
GSC wrote:Not sure Cook isn't overthinking this Ali spell. Keep the seamers at it.

Must admit leaning that way myself...hah !  What do we know  Smile 
Took the gamble that India might overlook Ali in relief of seam and it paid off so credit to him.
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Post by msp83 Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:34 pm

Tea is getting closer, but they need to take the bowling on a bit here. Even Rahane, the man with a good technique, should get a good one sooner rather than later, so play your shots, like Binny just did there to get going.

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Post by msp83 Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:46 pm

Liam Plunkett has some minor injury concerns but he's likely to be back on the field for the last session.
So England in total control of the last session. The remaining overs with the old ball, India will have to last, and take the score pass 200 to at least have a half decent total. If they go pass 200, then they at least have a half chance in the game. If they can't go pass that score, then they will have to look up to the weather to save them on the first day itself.

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Post by Duty281 Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:52 pm

Jadeja gone cheaply = perfect!

Superb session from England, further vindicating Cook's attacking choice at the toss. Bless, where the whining knee-jerkers now?

England need to wrap up the tail swiftly, and not make the same errors as they did in the First Test. Pitch it up and finish the innings today!

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Post by kingraf Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:57 pm

It's a cruel sport cricket. Five days to play, and you can be on your last legs by the second session. Hardcore.
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Post by Scrumpy Thu 17 Jul 2014, 3:59 pm

Not many would have choosen to bat on that wicket on the 1st morning of a Test match, just as well the Indian captain called wrong otherwise we would have been all out before Tea.
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Post by Fernando Thu 17 Jul 2014, 4:09 pm

Binny lbw b Anderson 9 (Ind 145-7)

India be lucky to make it to 200 the way they batting.

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Post by JDizzle Thu 17 Jul 2014, 4:11 pm

Binny gets a shocker. DRS.

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Post by alfie Thu 17 Jul 2014, 4:13 pm

Binny a bit unlucky. Hawkeye says high , though to be honest it looked OK live.
Kumar is the man on a hot streak with the bat : wonder how he'll go on this surface ?

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Post by alfie Thu 17 Jul 2014, 4:15 pm

Ali doing a handy holding job here , allowing Cook to rotate his seamers.
With Plunkett apparently struggling with some problem , a welcome contribution.
Useful for the over rate , too.

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Post by Gerry SA Thu 17 Jul 2014, 4:17 pm

Funny things are these doctored greentops.

Mediocre one dimensional bowler can look half decent...

Clubman James Anderson must wish he could bowl on these kinda pitches everyday.

As he lacks the talent on other pitches.

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Post by Duty281 Thu 17 Jul 2014, 4:18 pm

Always amusing to see a decision go against India. Laugh

And they've motivated Anderson perfectly, as well!

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Post by GSC Thu 17 Jul 2014, 4:23 pm

DRS would've saved Binny.

That's a shame
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Post by alfie Thu 17 Jul 2014, 4:28 pm

Still have to get past Kumar . Then Cook can come on and get his bunny , Ishant  Smile 
Stokes has been good today ; would like to see him pick up a couple now. Rahane has looked as good as any of India's batsmen today , so England still have work to do.

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 17 Jul 2014, 4:48 pm

No sympathy for India at all.

The only way they will re consider quickly in regards to DRS is if they are on the losing end of it.

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Post by Gerry SA Thu 17 Jul 2014, 5:36 pm

India's batting line looks a bit muddled up IMO

Rahane should be at #4 and Kohli at #5.

Kumar should probably be batting at #7

And Dhawan lacks the technique to playing in England.

Someone like Rohit should take his place.

And Ashwin should replace Jadeja.

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Post by KP_fan Thu 17 Jul 2014, 5:37 pm

at the start of the day i thought 300 would be a fighting total.
then I saw we were at risk of a 170 crash out so i thought we get what we get.

now there has been a recovery , Rahane's runs come in MOSt difficult conditions and every 10 runs are a bonus.
200+ may be a fighting total also and I think we have the bowling but who know maan...pitch might ease, an English batsmn or 2 might get stuck in or a lower order might blast some quick runs.....300 would be more comfortable
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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 17 Jul 2014, 5:50 pm

As soon as the play began, I was bit worried looking at the grass on the field. The results were clear from the very first ball where there was a swing of about 8-10 cm with a good carry. It never seems like a Lord's pitch. Remember the test match against SL. Pitch was far different from that test match. Lord's mostly offer a good first inning total, but what we are watching is quite different.

I don't know much about the truth of Jadeja-Anderson incident but ya its visible who got affected from that mentally.

Looking at Rahane, I always have a feel of Dravid batting when ever I see this lad and I feel Indian top order should take a lesson from Bhuvi. He is playing brilliantly.
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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 17 Jul 2014, 5:56 pm

Was that not too low. But a beautiful miss from Kumar. Well played lad,  clap 
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 17 Jul 2014, 5:57 pm

England since tea have been absolute rubbish, yet again letting another match winning situation slip away. When will this team grow a pair and put there foot down on teams when they have them on the edge
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Post by KP_fan Thu 17 Jul 2014, 6:01 pm

we won't find out what the pitch is like unles we see Eng bat even if it is in slightly eased conditions.

Rahane got a 97 on a seaming pitch in T2 in SA...when all were faling around him and he took apart Steyn trying to maximize with the tail.

we may be seeing a match winning inning this one from Rahane


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Post by Hoggy_Bear Thu 17 Jul 2014, 6:02 pm

Looks like the 300+ score you were asking for is on the way KP.

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 17 Jul 2014, 6:03 pm

Still they are on the front-seat. Lord's is improving from since morning. Pitch seems to be turning good for batting now. I think they are gonna pile on runs on the board in their first innings.
It will also depend on Indian bowlers but India have recovered from what is called to be situation of death.
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Post by KP_fan Thu 17 Jul 2014, 6:11 pm

One of the very good innings you would see in seaming conditions....as I said before...this lad is the starightest and most correct batsmen in difficult seaming conditions...and surprisingly quite ordinary on Patta pitches.

Inning reminiscent in quality and value to Vengsarkars 120 odd at Headingly in 1986


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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 17 Jul 2014, 6:12 pm

Rahane has scored last 23 runs in 13 balls of Anderson. That was a nice shot, pushed through covers. After all it is a fantastic century for this extremely talented man.
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Post by KP_fan Thu 17 Jul 2014, 6:13 pm

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/63433.html

this is the test match I think ( or hope) the script here goes like Smile
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Post by mystiroakey Thu 17 Jul 2014, 6:15 pm

Again I have no idea why these commentators are so pessimistic- if we can get them all out in a day- job done- They do not have this kind of attack to threaten us on this wicket. Forget the runs, if there is no bad weather there will be a result and i back england to get 20- not India

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Post by Duty281 Thu 17 Jul 2014, 6:16 pm

Superb by Anderson! England might still wrap it up today.

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 17 Jul 2014, 6:18 pm

Superb Inning. You deserve standing ovation.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 17 Jul 2014, 6:18 pm

It has been a disappointing day from England. Poor in the 1st session, good in the 2nd, lost the plot a little in the 3rd. From 145-7 there was no way India should be where they are now. They should be hanging on for dear life in the game, not firmly in it.
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Post by KP_fan Thu 17 Jul 2014, 6:20 pm

mystiroakey wrote:Again I have no idea why these commentators are so pessimistic-
their pessimism is my optimism....I agree with them but don't want to believe it ( yet)
against good pitched up swing 150 may also be dificult....but again we will see tomm
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 17 Jul 2014, 6:21 pm

Deep third man, long off, deep point, deep square leg, deep fine leg to Shami

What on earth is going on out there
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Post by KP_fan Thu 17 Jul 2014, 6:21 pm

we had Eng down 200-7 in T1.......the ptich allowed the lower order to get away
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Post by KP_fan Thu 17 Jul 2014, 6:22 pm

Olly wrote:Deep third man, long off, deep point, deep square leg, deep fine leg to Shami

What on earth is going on out there


simple.....captain weasel is ensuring he doesn't have to bat today
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