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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:18 pm

USA 15 - Europe 13

European top points scorer - Rory Mcilroy.............

European Lowest Points scorer - Lee Westwood....

USA Top points scorer - Jim Furyk.............

USA Lowest points scorer - Webb Simpson........

USA 8 - 8 Europe going into the singles......


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Post by Davie Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:37 pm

Furyk is likely to struggle to get more than 2 points from a possible 5 - so if he's your top scorer then God help you

BTW there is a SuperBru predictions pool at http://www.superbru.com/rydercup/ - search for the pool using pool code "vierhold" (without quotes)

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:56 pm

Catch a load of this:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/live/28789424

Is that just to remind Rickie's teammates which side he's on?

He'll have played one more Ryder Cup than he has Tour wins. Good luck with that.

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Post by pedro Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:57 pm

If I say 14-14 I can't be way off.

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Post by pedro Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:00 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Catch a load of this:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/live/28789424

Is that just to remind Rickie's teammates which side he's on?
Don't be too sure kwini. With his cap on only the "U" will be visible. And to most Americans that stands for "U-rop".

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Post by McLaren Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:00 pm

I reckon McIlroy will win, despite has failure to secure the fedex he is still the worlds in form player. I could also see gmac finishing well.

Although I don't much care for these limited field events.
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Post by super_realist Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:01 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Catch a load of this:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/live/28789424

Is that just to remind Rickie's teammates which side he's on?

He'll have played one more Ryder Cup than he has Tour wins. Good luck with that.

I was watching a programme at the weekend and Zach Johnson was on it, when he keeps god and the bible out of it, he actually wasn't such a bad bloke at all. Okay, he looks like a frog and has zero charisma but he was good about the whole defeat last time.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:14 pm

Davie wrote:Furyk is likely to struggle to get more than 2 points from a possible 5 - so if he's your top scorer then God help you

BTW there is a SuperBru predictions pool at http://www.superbru.com/rydercup/ - search for the pool using pool code "vierhold" (without quotes)

Furyk is very consistent...............and he also has the T-shirt..................Played in every one since Valderrama...

He also came across with watson earlier in the year to play the course..

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Post by Davie Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:15 pm

Yes but no way on this earth will he play all 5 matches. Maybe 3 at most so getting 2 points out of 3 is optimistic

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:16 pm

Not many of our team will play all 5 matches....


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Post by Davie Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:18 pm

Well at last you got one thing right

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Post by super_realist Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:19 pm

Don't think anyone plays 5 matches these days since Celtic Manor.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:20 pm

Davie wrote:Well at last you got one thing right

In the last two years...You haven't mellowed much have you....

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Post by Shotrock Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:34 pm

I would like the US to prevail in the country v continent event, but IMO the "Euro" team is simply stronger. I look for Rose and Rory to be the players of the event. The time of year most Brits really embrace the continent!


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Post by super_realist Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:39 pm

HAs there ever been a Ryder Cup with more players out of form?

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Post by Davie Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:41 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Davie wrote:Well at last you got one thing right

In the last two years...You haven't mellowed much have you....

In the last four years you haven't got much right have you?



And Shotrock - why this obsession with country vs continent? While USA may be a single country (though, by definition, a collection of states), Europe is a collection of countries, but on a similar scale

Does an Englishman care much about a Bulgarian? Probably not, but does a Louisianan care much about a Washingtonite? Again, probably not - however the states band together for team purposes, but as the European countries band together for RC - the "scales" are similar though

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Post by lorus59 Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:44 pm

I think there is a little bit of bitterness in Shotrock's comments. I think although USA is one country, there can be a lot of differences in attitudes in the various states.

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Post by super_realist Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:46 pm

The USA have probably not drawn from the full 50 states, whereas Europe have certainly not drawn players from the many European countries.


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Post by incontinentia Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:47 pm

I think the U.S.A will win

USA 14 1/2 - Europe 13 1/2

European top points scorer - Sergio
European Lowest Points scorer - Bjorn
USA Top points scorer - Fowler
USA Lowest points scorer - Bradley

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Post by Shotrock Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:52 pm

Davie - Just an obvious and accurate observation on my part ... no reason to get defensive boys!

The only way the US would probably win this thing is IF it went back to GB/I v US.

Again, embrace Europe (but not the Euro).

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Post by lorus59 Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:56 pm

Like all the states embrace the death penalty.

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Post by super_realist Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:58 pm

That would be a bit unfair SR. Be like having Texas v rest of America.

America need to step up their game. That's all.

THink they might win this time, not because they are better, but winning as often as Europe do, instills a little bit of apathy or lack of desire.

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Post by pedro Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:59 pm

Think GB/I could muster a decent team this time!

Kaymer, Bjorn, Sergio, Stenson, Dubie out
Donald, Lowry, Howell, Casey, Warren in

OK; not a better team, but still in with a shot.

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Post by incontinentia Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:04 pm

But shotrock, you play the rest of the world in President's cup!!
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Post by beninho Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:04 pm

I have a feeling that the USA will nick this one. Just think they are due, and i do not see a massive amount in the teams overall.

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Post by pedro Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:12 pm

Me too, think Europe is jaded.
But I also think it depends on how Europes big guns are faring the first 1-2 days. If Rory, Sergio, Henrik, Justin all play like a bag of potatos it will kill the rest of the team. As motivating these players can be, they can also be the exact opposite.

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:16 pm

As at Valhalla with Garcia, Harrington & Westwood.

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Post by Sand Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:19 pm

True Kwini but Faldo was also in charge Rolling Eyes

I think Europe will win 15 - 13. Can't wait for it. Not so much looking forward to the alarm going off at 3.30 am to get the 4.48 am train to Gleneagles on Saturday Crying or Very sad Least its slightly later the other days I'm going.

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Post by pedro Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:20 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:As at Valhalla with Garcia, Harrington & Westwood.
Exactly! OK

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Post by hend085 Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:22 pm

Europe 15 USA 13

Top scorers: Stenson and Fowler

Lowest scorers: Victor and Top5

USA 8.5-7.5 lead going into the singles


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Post by kwinigolfer Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:23 pm

Have a great time Sand,
Will you be having EUROPE shaved in to your hair-do?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:24 pm

One has to remember that though Europe have won this event the last two times........It's been by a point..

and they had no right winning the last one.......................Justin Rose putt on the 17th was a freak..

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Post by Sand Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:27 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:One has to remember that though Europe have won this event the last two times........It's been by a point..

and they had no right winning the last one.......................Justin Rose putt on the 17th was a freak..

Yes it was unbelievable but at the end of the day your boys didn't get it done even 4 ahead on home soil.

No Kwini not getting Europe into the barnet... haha Cant believe Rickie did that..

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Post by super_realist Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:33 pm

I don't have Sky, but gather you can buy a weekend pass for Smart TV/Laptop. Will probably watch it that way.


Truss, I think you could find plenty American shots that week, just as long and unbelieveable as Rose's putt.

The thing I remember most about that though was MIckelson's fantastic reaction, compare that to the disgusting arrogance from 9C (who in Ryder Cup, really ought to keep histrionics very low key given how rotten he is) when he holed that long snaker against Westwood and Colsaerts. Brilliant that he still lost.

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Post by pedro Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:40 pm

Sand wrote:
No Kwini not getting Europe into the barnet... haha Cant believe Rickie did that..
Think Salmond will turn up with "Scotland" shaven into his do. Or maybe St. Andrews' cross from ear to ear?

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Post by super_realist Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:42 pm

Will Salmond even show up? Wouldn't want his miserable and whiskey soaked face denuding the team of motivation.

"Here boys, let the loser of the last big battle in Scotland show you how NOT to win".

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:48 pm

Salmond's Yes party were over 20 points behind at the start of that race...

Not a loser in my book...............The best leader of any party I've seen in my twenty five years over here..

According to you Europe isn't going to need motivating it's all signed and sealed.

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Post by super_realist Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:51 pm

I didn't say Europe won't need motivating. I said Europe were probably under a bit of malaisse and apathy from winning so often.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:54 pm

Like 2008

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Post by super_realist Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:56 pm

Precisely, they rolled over in 2008.
Hard to keep up the motivation when they are 7 in 9.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:01 pm

But how many Europeans on your team are 7 in 9....

None of them............

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Post by super_realist Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:07 pm

As you LOVE to say Trussman. Semantics!!!!

How many American's have EVER won the Ryder Cup that are playing this week?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:14 pm

Mickelson, Mahan, Furyk and I think Zach Johnson played in 08...Not sure about him...


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Post by pedro Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:20 pm

super_realist wrote:Will Salmond even show up? Wouldn't want his miserable and whiskey soaked face denuding the team of motivation.

"Here boys, let the loser of the last big battle in Scotland show you how NOT to win".
he'd like the spotlight?

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Post by pedro Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:23 pm

super_realist wrote:Precisely, they rolled over in 2008.
Hard to keep up the motivation when they are 7 in 9.
It's not only the RC. Many Europeans have recent Major/WGC/FedEx/RTD etc. successes. Think that all contributes to not being hungry enough.

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:25 pm

No Zach in 2008.
Also no Luke and no Tiger. And there's a message there!

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Post by super_realist Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:27 pm

America will undoubtedly be stronger for not only having the absence of one of the least effective players ever in Ryder Cups, 9C, but they also won't miss his lack of team unity.

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Post by pedro Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:33 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Also no Luke and no Tiger. And there's a message there!
HA! Thought the exact same thing. Westy is over the top, mistake to leave Luuuke out. But I think the absence of Tiger is more crucial for US success.
But time will tell.

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Post by George1507 Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:14 pm

Tiger's record isn't that bad.

He's 13 wins, 17 losses and 3 halves. He's lost one singles match.

Nick Faldo has 23 wins, 19 losses and 4 halves, and he's supposed to be one of Europe's best ever players.

The difference between perceived failure and perceived success isn't much.

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Post by super_realist Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:22 pm

More the detrimental effect of 9C in your team, and his inability to form a decent partnership with anyone, but his record isn't great. Compared to Poulter, Donald, Westwood, Monty and Garcia it is hysterically poor.

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