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Post by incontinentia Wed 11 Feb 2015, 10:04 am

Is there anything in a movie that doesn't make sense for you (storyline or otherwise) and is bothersome as a result?

Example: Inglorious Basterds- Hugo Stiglitz is infamous in the German army for killing German soldiers. His face was on the front page of a newspaper. Why then doesn't Major Hellstrom recognise him when they meet in the basement??!

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Post by Guest Wed 11 Feb 2015, 10:17 am

The entire plot of Highlander II

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Post by Adam D Wed 11 Feb 2015, 11:42 am

The one part of a film that annoys me more than any other is when Brigitte Nielson injects Dolph Lungdren in Rocky IV. Why do they need to make him a cheat? Can he just not be superior without that scene?

Also, in one of the endings of Star Trek VI, they go all Scooby Doo and make the Klingon assassin a human with a klingon mask on. Annoys the hell out of me and no need for it!

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Post by incontinentia Wed 11 Feb 2015, 12:40 pm

Adam D wrote:The one part of a film that annoys me more than any other is when Brigitte Nielson injects Dolph Lungdren in Rocky IV. Why do they need to make him a cheat? Can he just not be superior without that scene?
Perhaps to vilify the Russians, given the Cold War context of the film? Or maybe it was vitamin B-12!
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 11 Feb 2015, 1:26 pm

Taken...After causing all that carnage in Paris and shooting that high ranking cop's Wife..

He gets on a commercial flight home..

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Post by Simon West Thu 12 Feb 2015, 10:00 am

So many - always the most confusing for me are fight scenes with 1 good guy and over a dozen baddies. 2 things, 1 why do the baddies not just overwhelm the guy all at once? And secondly if after 10 kills why do baddies still decide to throw themselves at the goody who has so far killed 10 of your buddies often in 10 deadly katana blows? Feck me after about 7 I would be outta there!

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Post by Marky Thu 12 Feb 2015, 10:43 am

Who taught Storm Troopers to aim when shooting at Jedi's? Stevie Wonder?

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Post by rIck_dAgless Thu 12 Feb 2015, 11:07 am

Marky wrote:Who taught Storm Troopers to aim when shooting at Jedi's? Stevie Wonder?

What would happen if a bunch of storm troopers were firing at a bunch of unnamed red shirts from Star Trek?

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Post by SecretFly Thu 12 Feb 2015, 1:34 pm

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Marky wrote:Who taught Storm Troopers to aim when shooting at Jedi's? Stevie Wonder?

What would happen if a bunch of storm troopers were firing at a bunch of unnamed red shirts from Star Trek?

The badly aimed shots would bounce off some plaster-cast rocks, some red 'atmospheric' light rigging, some Gunsmoke props in the corner of the studi........I mean the corner of the planet  Whistle ............ and kill each one of those red shirts.

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Post by Stella Thu 12 Feb 2015, 1:56 pm

Also, in star wars.

Why didn't they just blast the pod that C3PO and R2 were in, near the beginning of episode IV?
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Post by Stella Thu 12 Feb 2015, 2:16 pm

How did Bond survive that fall from the train, in Skyfall?
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Post by SecretFly Thu 12 Feb 2015, 2:30 pm

Stella wrote:How did Bond survive that fall from the train, in Skyfall?

It was in his contract - he wasn't allowed die until at least the ending credits.

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Post by Adam D Thu 12 Feb 2015, 2:46 pm

Stella wrote:Also, in star wars.

Why didn't they just blast the pod that C3PO and R2 were in, near the beginning of episode IV?
Wasnt it because there were no human lifeforms on board?

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Post by Stella Thu 12 Feb 2015, 2:49 pm

Adam D wrote:
Stella wrote:Also, in star wars.

Why didn't they just blast the pod that C3PO and R2 were in, near the beginning of episode IV?
Wasnt it because there were no human lifeforms on board?

Indeed, but still, take no chances and shoot the damn thing.

ALSO in star wars. Obi wan is roughly about 40 years old at the end of episode III, but is about 80, 20 years later, in episode IV.
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Post by Adam D Thu 12 Feb 2015, 2:57 pm

Stella wrote:
Adam D wrote:
Stella wrote:Also, in star wars.

Why didn't they just blast the pod that C3PO and R2 were in, near the beginning of episode IV?
Wasnt it because there were no human lifeforms on board?

Indeed, but still, take no chances and shoot the damn thing.

ALSO in star wars. Obi wan is roughly about 40 years old at the end of episode III, but is about 80, 20 years later, in episode IV.
tough paper round?

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Post by superflyweight Thu 12 Feb 2015, 3:42 pm

Why doesn't Bond ever use an alias or put on a disguise? The least secret, secret agent of all time.

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Post by Stella Thu 12 Feb 2015, 3:48 pm

Why did Silva go to all that trouble of getting caught, just so he could attempt to kill M? Plus, everything had to fall into place at the right time, for him to pull it off (he didn't). I'm thinking the tube explosion.
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Post by superflyweight Thu 12 Feb 2015, 3:53 pm

Yeah, if Bond could break into her place then Silva could have.

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Post by SecretFly Thu 12 Feb 2015, 3:57 pm

superflyweight wrote:Why doesn't Bond ever use an alias or put on a disguise?  The least secret, secret agent of all time.  

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Yep, anyone who ever lays eyes on him for a first time - the line is always: "AH, Meester Bond!"
And even if they pretend not to know him the first time, you quickly realise it's only a trap to lure him into the lift with the two beautiful girls and the seven sticks of fuse-lit gelignite.

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Post by Guest Thu 12 Feb 2015, 5:06 pm

In Ghostbusters 2 why are there still people who don't believe in ghosts despite New York City being terrorised by said ghosts just a few years prior

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Post by Guest Thu 12 Feb 2015, 5:13 pm

Why has Bond never had a mission to contact all the birds he's f*cked over the years and tell them they all have the clap?

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu 12 Feb 2015, 7:17 pm

The power of Clark Kent's glasses

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Post by Guest Thu 12 Feb 2015, 7:22 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:The power of Clark Kent's glasses
It's not just the glasses that fools everyone, it's that little kiss curl as well.

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Post by Guest Thu 12 Feb 2015, 7:35 pm

Why are none of the avenegers anywhere to be seen when the proverbial is hitting the fan in the thor, ironman and cap america movies since......all seems like it could have easily been avoided if you ask me

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Post by incontinentia Fri 13 Feb 2015, 11:01 am

Stella wrote:How did Bond survive that fall from the train, in Skyfall?
Haven't you heard? You can fall from ANY height into water in films and survive relatively unscathed.

See: The Fugitive, Apocalypto and Commando.
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Post by Stella Fri 13 Feb 2015, 11:12 am

incontinentia wrote:
Stella wrote:How did Bond survive that fall from the train, in Skyfall?
Haven't you heard? You can fall from ANY height into water in films and survive relatively unscathed.

See: The Fugitive, Apocalypto and Commando.

Commando was a good one. He fell into the water at about 2mph.
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Post by SecretFly Fri 13 Feb 2015, 11:18 am

In Inception: why did the........

oh forget it.

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Post by Stella Fri 13 Feb 2015, 11:21 am

In dirty dancing nobody actually put baby in the corner. She just well, sat down, at the side.
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Post by rIck_dAgless Fri 13 Feb 2015, 11:53 am

Quiddicth is 2 seperate games, that bear no impact on the other one.

How does Quincy MD get laid so often.

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Post by nadeem2099 Fri 13 Feb 2015, 1:12 pm

In X Men days of future past why didn't they ask for the fast guys help? And they made him OP as fudge!
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Post by Hero Fri 13 Feb 2015, 1:16 pm

In Lord of the Rings why not just get on the giant eagles and drop the ring down the mountain in 5 minutes rather than waste 10 hours.

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Post by nadeem2099 Fri 13 Feb 2015, 1:19 pm

Hero wrote:In Lord of the Rings why not just get on the giant eagles and drop the ring down the mountain in 5 minutes rather than waste 10 hours.

The eagle might become influenced by the ring and turn evil and turn into a gollum eagle hybrid.
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Post by SecretFly Fri 13 Feb 2015, 1:22 pm

In Maleficent, Angelina Jolie had her wings clipped.  It's considered a Big tragedy, and she causes a lot of wreck and ruin in gaining revenge for the act.

It also stops her being able to make the long journeys necessary to pick up intelligence and stuff on the evil king wot did it.

But she has magic powers, don't she?  So she finds a crow, turns it into a man, makes him her spy and uses his ability to turn back into a crow at any time as her method of getting up close and personal with her enemies.  Because he can fly in through windows and things, innit.

She never thought to just use the magic to grow a new set of wings herself, no?

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Post by Derbymanc Fri 13 Feb 2015, 2:40 pm

Hero wrote:In Lord of the Rings why not just get on the giant eagles and drop the ring down the mountain in 5 minutes rather than waste 10 hours.

When someone first told me this it nearly ruined the film for me.

In I am Legend why did Will Smith blow himself up, should have followed the girl instead (Also why didn't they just film the proper ending, winkers)

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Post by JDizzle Fri 13 Feb 2015, 2:46 pm

How did Harrison Ford ride a submarine all the way to that island with the Nazis in Raiders?

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Post by SecretFly Fri 13 Feb 2015, 3:18 pm

JDizzle wrote:How did Harrison Ford ride a submarine all the way to that island with the Nazis in Raiders?

he had his packed lunch under his hat and his snorkelling gear inside his shirt.

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Post by incontinentia Fri 13 Feb 2015, 3:43 pm

Hero wrote:In Lord of the Rings why not just get on the giant eagles and drop the ring down the mountain in 5 minutes rather than waste 10 hours.
They prob would be chased down by the big dragon things from the 1st film (Fellbeasts or summit, the things flown on by the Ringwraiths)
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Post by SecretFly Fri 13 Feb 2015, 3:46 pm

Come to think of it, the eagles could have taken care of most of trials faced by the heros of Middle Earth, had they been asked and had they had the interest - but it seems they were a bunch that were easily bored and didn't hang around on the one job long.

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Post by Hero Fri 13 Feb 2015, 3:54 pm

Damn beatnik eagles.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 13 Feb 2015, 4:01 pm

The thing about movies adapted from books is that they inevitably leave some things unexplained. The point about the eagles is explained in the books (or possibly The Silmarillion, I'm not entirely sure off-hand): basically they're higher beings who only rarely concern themselves with the affairs of men (and dwarves, elves and hobbits Wink). They helped out on occasion because of Gandalf (also a higher being), but it would have been risky for them to approach Mordor, so they didn't.

So yeah, the eagles are selfish b@stards...

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 13 Feb 2015, 4:09 pm

gazzyD wrote:In Ghostbusters 2 why are there still people who don't believe in ghosts despite New York City being terrorised by said ghosts just a few years prior

You could say the same in Jaws 2 ..........The Mayor is happy for his son to go sailing with his mates after all the carnage from a couple of years earlier...

Don't buy that..

What kind of greedy b**tard shark eats the water skier and then goes back for seconds with the old girl on the boat !!..........Isn't one double whopper enough ??

Jaws 2 is regarded by many as the first of the teen slasher movies............and rightly so..

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Post by Guest Fri 13 Feb 2015, 4:17 pm

Travolta's impeccable timing in Pulp Fiction when taking a cr@p. A hold up and his impending death.

Connery playing a Russian!

Just in general the lack of urgency in bad guys killing the supposide good guys. Like allowing them freedom of speech. Just kill the f*cker already!

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Post by SecretFly Fri 13 Feb 2015, 4:24 pm

A carefully crafted sting - worked on over solid months of listening and lurking in the dark - absolutely destroyed by the arrival of modern cinema's equivalent of the keystone cops - those damn SWAT idiots - "Move it! Move it! MOVE IT!!!"

Shut the f**K up, you loudmouthed asswholes!!!!


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 13 Feb 2015, 4:29 pm

legendkillarV2 wrote:Travolta's impeccable timing in Pulp Fiction when taking a cr@p. A hold up and his impending death.

Connery playing a Russian!

Just in general the lack of urgency in bad guys killing the supposide good guys. Like allowing them freedom of speech. Just kill the f*cker already!

Worst one I saw was ON DEADLY GROUND.....When the head of the mercenaries (Drill Sergent out of Full metal jacket) Tells his boys "Don't take chances with this guy, (seagal) He p**ses gasoline etc".......and then when he surprises him starts talking to him giving seagal the chance to disarm him and kill him..

Absolute bollox like the rest of the film..

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Post by SecretFly Fri 13 Feb 2015, 4:48 pm

Yeah, On Deadly Ground, one of the best comedies out there.

Old Sgt. Hartman doing the Shakespearian sonnet on how dangerous this here guy Seagal was.  I remember there was a big family group watching that the first time and really, it was a tear-streamer comedy for us.

"You could drop this guy off at the Arctic Circle wearing a pair of bikini underwear, without his toothbrush, and tomorrow afternoon he's going to show up at your pool side with a million dollar smile and fist full of pesos."

So quit stopping to waste time talking about him and go git him!

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Post by SecretFly Fri 13 Feb 2015, 4:56 pm

Mad Max.

The object is petrol.  Everyone wants a drop or a few cans of it.

So where do they all head?  Yep, into the Australian desert - where food is scarce and so driving here and there to get some can be hard on the little gas that you do get your hands on.  ie - you end up wasting more gas trying to find gas than you get when you find some.  Diminishing returns.

There might be more of it in the ruined cities on the coasts - as well food, come to think of it.

The desert is the wrong place to go to in an apocalypse - but everyone keeps going there regardless.

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Post by The Fourth Lion Fri 13 Feb 2015, 7:47 pm

incontinentia wrote:Is there anything in a movie that doesn't make sense for you (storyline or otherwise) and is bothersome as a result?

Example: Inglorious Basterds- Hugo Stiglitz is infamous in the German army for killing German soldiers. His face was on the front page of a newspaper. Why then doesn't Major Hellstrom recognise him when they meet in the basement??!


Don't you just love the way that monumental events occur and nobody seems to notice.

Loved how, in the Batman movie, the Joker was able to demolish a hospital without anybody batting an eyelid. OK, so let's get this right. The film suggests that a man wearing garish make up and dressed in a nurses uniform, is able to install a huge quantity of explosives in points all over the hospital, and wire it to a detonation system and at no time is ever picked up on a camera, or challenged by security or other staff.

He is then able to detonate the bomb, bring the entire building down and walk away down the street, still face painted and wearing the nurses uniform and not a single copper or caped crusader.... not a television news crew in a helicopter or member of the public sees a thing.

Amazing.

Another example: In The Expendables, Bruce Willis's house is attacked in the middle of the night by a horde of Ninjas. A massive gunfight breaks out and in the end the house explodes in a ball of flame and not a single neighbour's curtains so much as twitch.

Perhaps nobody wants to go out in their dressing gown and ask them to do their fighting more quietly please, as they're waking the children up, but you'd think somebody might at least shout out "Keep the bloody noise down, you lot."
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Post by lfc91 Sun 15 Feb 2015, 9:42 pm

Terminator 2, the scene where the cop (bad terminator) turns up at the house of teenage john Connor. When he asks about the son, the parents say they don't know where he is and add in that another guy turned up on a motor cycle earlier in the day looking for him, not seeming fazed at all at these 2 incidents.

Now, if someone the size of 80's arnie turned up at your door, looking as he did in terminator, asking about your teenage son...shortly followed by a police officer, I think this May cause the teenagers parents to show the slightest bit of concern!!! But they didn't seem worried at all..

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Post by Guest Mon 16 Feb 2015, 11:37 am

lfc91 wrote:Terminator 2, the scene where the cop (bad terminator) turns up at the house of teenage john Connor. When he asks about the son, the parents say they don't know where he is and add in that another guy turned up on a motor cycle earlier in the day looking for him, not seeming fazed at all at these 2 incidents.

Now, if someone the size of 80's arnie turned up at your door, looking as he did in terminator, asking about your teenage son...shortly followed by a police officer, I think this May cause the teenagers parents to show the slightest bit of concern!!! But they didn't seem worried at all..
Listen mate, working for the Police we deal with parents whose kids have committed all sorts of nasty sh!t and they barely bat an eyelid. One comment we hear a lot is "He only nicks cars and stuff, he doesn't commit proper crime" John Connor was a tearaway being looked after by people who we happy to take a cheque from the state and not be too concerned as long as he wasn't dead.

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Post by The Fourth Lion Sun 22 Feb 2015, 6:39 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
lfc91 wrote:Terminator 2, the scene where the cop (bad terminator) turns up at the house of teenage john Connor. When he asks about the son, the parents say they don't know where he is and add in that another guy turned up on a motor cycle earlier in the day looking for him, not seeming fazed at all at these 2 incidents.

Now, if someone the size of 80's arnie turned up at your door, looking as he did in terminator, asking about your teenage son...shortly followed by a police officer, I think this May cause the teenagers parents to show the slightest bit of concern!!! But they didn't seem worried at all..
Listen mate, working for the Police we deal with parents whose kids have committed all sorts of nasty sh!t and they barely bat an eyelid. One comment we hear a lot is "He only nicks cars and stuff, he doesn't commit proper crime" John Connor was a tearaway being looked after by people who we happy to take a cheque from the state and not be too concerned as long as he wasn't dead.


Dave, I've heard better than the "He only nicks cars" line.

I was making my way to Pompey dockyard v early one morning (had to be on duty) and en route through a particularly chavvy estate, passed a house that was getting the old "Early-morning-knock-on-the-door".   There were police everywhere, one man being pinned to the ground and having cuffs put on while resisting arrest rather vigorously and vociferously.  Another young man was being herded into the back of a police car while bags of, what I presume, would probably turn out to be other people's property were being taken out of the house.  A slatternly woman, who I imagine was the family matriarch was giving one copper a particularly foul mouthed tirade while jabbing her finger in his face, and then she came out with the classic line which just put the tin lid on the entire scenario:   "What gives you the f***ing right to treat us like scum?"

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