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Post by McLaren Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:20 pm

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I saw the first two sets and a bit, then went out to get dinner. Wish I had stuck around to watch it.
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Post by MustPuttBetter Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:28 am

raycastleunited wrote:I would have been hunted down and shot like a lion for playing golf when on paternity leave

So would I Ray, and no one would even have shown up to protest on my behalf at my wife's dental surgery.
I had to wait an 'appropriate' period. Mrs MPB said that was 6 weeks, I said 2, we negotiated at 4.....
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Post by McLaren Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:57 am

It will come as a great shock to super that I am not actually a massive fan of the Guardian, and read it (only online) only because the alternatives are so poor.  Some of the stuff they publish as science is nothing other than woo.

And Today might be the day that it jumped the shark.  Deepak Chopra and trees are intelligent.  FFS

Deepak Chopra: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/04/prevent-illness-lifestyle-genes?CMP=twt_science*gdnscience

intelligent plants: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/radical-conservation/2015/aug/04/plants-intelligent-sentient-book-brilliant-green-internet
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Post by super_realist Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:26 pm

Deepak Chopra is a well known moron. I've never seen him look anything other than idiotic. Sam Harris is particularly fine at ridiculing him.

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Post by McLaren Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:56 pm

Sam Harris is also a bit of a moron. Isn't he into all the martial arts voodoo crap? And he is a bit right wing for my taste.
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Post by super_realist Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:03 pm

Mac, sometimes you need to look past the odd things you don't like about people.
We will never like everything about everyone, and it's a stupid reason to dislike someone entirely because of a few things you don't like.

Harris, Hitchens, Dawkins etc might all have aspects about them which aren't good, but when it comes to discounting idiots like Chopra, Lennox, Sharpton, Donahue etc they are spot on.

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Post by McLaren Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:19 pm

Is it just me or is Lennox even more hideous than other christian apologists?
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Post by super_realist Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:23 pm

Let's not go down this road again Mac, I'll simply say I find any of them to have a convincing argument.

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Post by McLaren Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:28 pm

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Are you convinced by Sam Harris's arguments for objective morality?
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Post by super_realist Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:29 pm

I'm not familiar with them Mac.

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Post by McLaren Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:38 pm

I thought you had read the "Moral Landscape"?
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Post by super_realist Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:40 pm

No.

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Post by McLaren Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:46 pm

What sam Harris books have you read, and would you recommend I try any of them?
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Post by super_realist Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:52 pm

I haven't read any of them, I've only watched him and his like rip theists apart on issues on Youtube.

Why would you trust my recommendation anyway?

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Post by McLaren Tue Aug 04, 2015 1:56 pm

Why not. I doubt you would set me up to read something terrible and I could always stop reading it if I thought it had been a poor recommendation.
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Post by SmithersJones Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:06 pm

Cricket going alright so far. Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile
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Post by kwinigolfer Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:24 pm

They're trying to get the Ashes won before the Football season starts.
You can see the "New Sherriff of Nottingham" headlines now . . . . . . .

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Post by McLaren Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:28 pm

Just looked up the score and it is 50 - 9, is that good or bad for your team?
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:36 pm

It's Poopie. It's the equivalent of being 4 or 5 nil down midway through the first half.

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Post by McLaren Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:41 pm

So it is worse than being 50-9 behind in a rugby match?
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Post by I'm never wrong Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:07 pm

Census data like you've never seen it before. www.datashine.org.uk  Click on the variables in the top right hand corner box (Data Chooser). Watch the maps change colour.

For Mac, SetUp and Super and all the rest up there... http://scotland.datashine.org.uk

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Post by SmithersJones Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:05 pm

One for Super - Obesity
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Post by McLaren Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:06 pm

I'm never wrong wrote:Census data like you've never seen it before. www.datashine.org.uk  Click on the variables in the top right hand corner box (Data Chooser). Watch the maps change colour.

For Mac, SetUp and Super and all the rest up there... http://scotland.datashine.org.uk

Thanks for posting that. It looks really cool and I will explore it later.
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:19 pm

1GrumpyGolfer wrote:It's Poopie. It's the equivalent of being 4 or 5 nil down midway through the first half.

reminds me of the Germany-Brazil semi. I missed the first ten minutes (I think I was cooking) so switched on to see Germany 1-0 up. Then my internet started playing up 5 minutes later, and by the time I got that sorted and switched the football back on it was 5-0 Shocked

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Post by super_realist Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:22 pm

McLaren wrote:
I'm never wrong wrote:Census data like you've never seen it before. www.datashine.org.uk  Click on the variables in the top right hand corner box (Data Chooser). Watch the maps change colour.

For Mac, SetUp and Super and all the rest up there... http://scotland.datashine.org.uk

Thanks for posting that.  It looks really cool and I will explore it later.

Mac, there's an interesting East/West split in one section. I'll let you guess what it relates too.

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Post by McLaren Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:45 pm

Is it the line between s*** hole and deeply depressing in Aberdeen? boxing
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Post by super_realist Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:17 pm

No it was the backward god bothering West and normal, educated East.

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Post by McLaren Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:43 pm

@JeremyJHardy wrote:
It would be an irony if Labour, which survived under a bloodthirsty lunatic, can't cope with a moderate socialist.
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Post by I'm never wrong Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:46 pm

This probably has been mentioned before, but I've only just thought of it. I have a friend who enjoys golf and we often compare betting slips re the Majors. she goes on holiday to Orlando a lot and I suggested that she should try out Graeme McDowells restaurant Nona Blue. I even suggested she pop in there Saturday or Sunday as she is likely to see him there on those days. Boom Boom.

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:14 pm

She could flip flop with alternate Saturday/Sunday trips to The Woods Jupiter . . . . . .

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Post by Davie Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:17 pm

Comparing betting slips .. that's a euphemism I've never heard before ....

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Post by McLaren Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:23 pm

I might be missing something in among all the innuendo but mcdools restaurant (actually I think he is just a "face" and not an owner) looks a bit typical American, all portion and no finesse.


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Post by I'm never wrong Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:29 pm

Davie wrote:Comparing betting slips .. that's a euphemism I've never heard before ....
Perhaps not explained very well. We just compare who we have put money on at the Majors.

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:32 pm

She could flip flop with alternate Saturday/Sunday trips to The Woods Jupiter . . . . . .

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Post by navyblueshorts Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:38 pm

What is it with guitarists wanting to sing? Who told Rory Gallagher he could sing? Got Shadow Play on the radio and while the guitar is pretty stellar, I'm not so sure about the singing.
Hendrix was even worse with the vocals...
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Post by Davie Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:25 pm

I tend to agree with you about Rory Gallagher - but as he's one of those who passed away tragically young he seems to get a free pass from music fans. I read and post on a lot of music forums and Rory is one of those elevated to God-like status .. mostly for passing too soon. If only the same accolades has been doled out to someone like Jeff Healey or SRV

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Post by Bob_the_Job Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:26 am

I think anybody who knows guitar would rate Jeff Healey, SRV, Joe Satriani etc all up there with or maybe even a bit ahead of Rory from a pure technique standpoint, but that's not to say he doesn't qualify as a guitar god...whatever that means.

He gets some extra points (from me and many others) for a number of reasons. He tried to stay true to his music and gave up on several very real opportunities to become more successful commercially. In dark times in Ireland he kicked back very hard against the whole sectarian environment that pervaded that era, and religiously (ha!) played Belfast regardless, when nobody else would.

A lot of the accolades he gets from current guitarists (and that's a very broad range - from Johnny Marr to Slash) are about the man as much if not more than the technical capability (which was very much his own style) and I think this elevates him. I saw him play a few times when I was very young and he was incredibly charismatic in a really quiet, powerful but understated way - you very much wanted him to be your mate.

But you're right - early or untimely death does tend to elevate or distort the perspective a little. But then why shouldn't it - the regard we hold these types of people is not restricted to just how well they plucked a string.

His vocals were a bit patchy and hit or miss, and sometimes the live versions of his songs have much better vocals than the studio versions. I always got the sense he was not comfortable in the studio and didn't like the recording process.
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Post by navyblueshorts Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:02 pm

Davie wrote:I tend to agree with you about Rory Gallagher - but as he's one of those who passed away tragically young he seems to get a free pass from music fans. I read and post on a lot of music forums and Rory is one of those elevated to God-like status .. mostly for passing too soon. If only the same accolades has been doled out to someone like Jeff Healey or SRV
Very true. There's a YouTube clip of SRV playing a warmup for a gig having arrived (or just woken up?) undoubtedly after a heavy drink/smack night, wearing a wacky coat. Simply picks up a guitar and what comes out is amazing. His version of Hendrix's Voodoo Chile is utterly unreal as well:

Spoiler:

Jeff Healey - didn't he have a bit part in the Patrick Swayze film 'Roadhouse'? Really good player and the fact he was blind makes it a great story.
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Post by Davie Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:05 pm

Yes JH was the house band in Roadhouse. Rescued the film from being truly dreadful and elevated it to merely awful status

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Post by McLaren Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:09 pm

Just submitted my voted for Corbyn. Has anyone else voted in the Labour leadership contest and if so for who?
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Post by MustPuttBetter Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:38 pm

McLaren wrote:Just submitted my voted for Corbyn.  Has anyone else voted in the Labour leadership contest and if so for who?

Did you pay your £3 to do so? What a stupid idea
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Post by MontysMerkin Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:16 pm

MustPuttBetter wrote:
McLaren wrote:Just submitted my voted for Corbyn.  Has anyone else voted in the Labour leadership contest and if so for who?

Did you pay your £3 to do so? What a stupid idea
Yeah you idiot. Don't do something you believe in. Especially for 3 quid.
Far better to watch from the sidelines making snide comments.
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Post by MustPuttBetter Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:18 pm

Get a grip Monty

Not a stupid idea from Mac's point of view. A stupid idea from the Labour Party. And if you can't see why that is, well.....

ps what's snide about the opinion it's a stupid idea? Dear oh dear
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Post by MontysMerkin Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:32 pm

I have a very firm grip, thanks dear.
You've explained yourself well, it just sounds as if you were calling mac stupid for doing something he believed in.
As for the labour party, I think the medias (and the partys reaction!) to Corbyn tells it's own tale. By aping the tories for the last 20 years, they have shown themselves to be the chinless wonders we always suspected. As soon as someone with any substance (whether you believe it or not) comes along they are Poopie themselves. Scotland proved that a viable left leaning party could do very well indeed. I mean what was the choice in the last election? Same old, same old or same old? Even a party of opposition is better than 3 parties whose policies are dictated to by the establishment (banks, multi's etc.)
Well done mac I hope your £3 changes the world.
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Post by MustPuttBetter Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:37 pm

I'm glad you got that all off your chest 'dear'

None of which I disagree with, but still think being able to buy a vote £3 is open to all sorts of abuse and is, if you believe some of what has been said/planned, is more than part of the reason for the Corbyn juggernaut
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Post by SmithersJones Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:48 pm

Corbyn seems to have the support of both genuine 'new socialists' and cynical tories who despite winning the election are apparently so insecure at the 'threat' of Burnham and the other two who are so nondescript and pointless I can't even remember their names, that they feel the need to try and help the utterly ineffectual centrist Labour party back to its roots from whence it can either offer a genuine alternative or die. Do they think if the latter happens they'll have a one party system? If so, they're thicker than they seem.
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Post by MontysMerkin Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:03 pm

MustPuttBetter wrote:I'm glad you got that all off your chest 'dear'

None of which I disagree with, but still think being able to buy a vote £3 is open to all sorts of abuse and is, if you believe some of what has been said/planned, is more than part of the reason for the Corbyn juggernaut
Dear, oh dear, oh deary me.
We're supposed to take that from "Did you pay your £3 to do so? What a stupid idea". Nice. Try articulating your thoughts in a full sentence.
(articulating doesn't mean big lorries by the way, but making your inside head pictures readable to those outside your head)
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Post by MustPuttBetter Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:34 pm

Thanks for the advice re snide comments.....

By 'we' I assume you mean you?
What a shambles you are.

What's wrong with everyone this week?! Apart from Monty, which would be far too long a list.

Ps understand all that Monty dear?
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Post by McLaren Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:37 pm

MustPuttBetter wrote:
McLaren wrote:Just submitted my voted for Corbyn.  Has anyone else voted in the Labour leadership contest and if so for who?

Did you pay your £3 to do so? What a stupid idea

This did read like you were saying that I was stupid to have paid my £3 and voted for Corbyn. But I now get your point.


I am not sure it is such a bad idea to make voting such an easy task as long as there is a bit of vetting. The more people who engage with politics well before a general election the better.
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Post by MustPuttBetter Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:43 pm

I take the point it could have been read either way. But no need to go off the deep end Monty style. A simple request for clarification would have done.
A man who refers to himself as 'we' must have a fair few problems upstairs though so I'll cut him some slack.

Completely agree with you Mac re engaging people. Just seems to be a bit open to abuse and indeed, has been abused evidently
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Post by MontysMerkin Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:26 am

MustPuttBetter wrote:I take the point it could have been read either way.
Well alrighty then, glad that's sorted. Cool
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