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Post by FootballLight Sun 29 Mar 2015, 7:44 pm

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Sorry 24, I'm thinking of the World Cup again.

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Post by sportform Sun 14 Jun 2015, 5:29 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Ideally it would be Carrick in the deep role with Wilshere further up the pitch with Delph but it's lesser of two evils really, far rather him than Henderson as the pivot.
I would like to see Henderson further forward. He proved this season in the absence of Gerrard he can play there.
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 14 Jun 2015, 5:38 pm

With Liverpool not having that good a season and Henderson hardly shining then I'd say he hasn't proved much in a positive sense.

Wilshere was by far better than Henderson last week, would be another point in favour of watching games not reading them.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 14 Jun 2015, 5:38 pm

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Post by Guest Sun 14 Jun 2015, 5:39 pm

We're awful

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Post by Duty281 Sun 14 Jun 2015, 5:39 pm

Slovenia!

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 14 Jun 2015, 5:39 pm

Nice finish. But what on earth are the defense doing.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 14 Jun 2015, 5:41 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:With Liverpool not having that good a season and Henderson hardly shining then I'd say he hasn't proved much in a positive sense.

Wilshere was by far better than Henderson last week, would be another point in favour of watching games not reading them.

Agree completely, I think some people confuse Wilshere being injury prone with him being anything other than a classy midfielder, he should and hopefully will be the future in that position (injuries permitting).

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 14 Jun 2015, 5:41 pm

Not sure Hart does great either, but Cahill was poor. Why he isn't a nailed on starter for Chelsea and why Mourinho definitely has an eye on his position.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 14 Jun 2015, 5:49 pm

England's relative dominance not reflected on the scoreline.

Good fluidity and width being achieved in attack, although Rooney (as usual) is showing a severe amount of inactivity as the lone centre forward. Townsend largely anonymous as well.

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Post by sportform Sun 14 Jun 2015, 5:53 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:With Liverpool not having that good a season and Henderson hardly shining then I'd say he hasn't proved much in a positive sense.

Wilshere was by far better than Henderson last week, would be another point in favour of watching games not reading them.
I've watched all the games. I think you need to go back and watch Liverpool from the turn off the year up until Gerrard came back in.
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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 14 Jun 2015, 5:57 pm

March onwards was a bit more indicative of Henderson's level rather than a small sample of games where he looked capable of replacing Gerrard but ultimately isn't.

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Post by sportform Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:02 pm

Would like to see us get Walcott or Austin on up front and get Rooney a little bit deeper. We need a link between the midfield and attack.

Lallana's coming on for Phil Jones. Either we are going three at the back or Henderson will drop into the right back position.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:05 pm

Henderson At right back, clyne on the bench

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:05 pm

The latter.

Come on England sort this out! Delph should of had a pop there.

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Post by jbeadlesbigrighthand Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:08 pm

Our movement off the ball is so poor. Slovenia are physically dominating the game, and we're not smart enough to break them down.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:09 pm

The referee is so bloody inconsistent!

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:09 pm

Only positive thing i will say today. Despite i can't stand the bloke, Jack Wilshere has had a great game.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:13 pm

Townsend and Delph off, Walcott and Austin on.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:14 pm

England need pace.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:14 pm

YES!!!!

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Post by Duty281 Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:14 pm

Wilshere! Yahoo

Thumping effort.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:15 pm

Lovely finish from the poor man's Henderson

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:16 pm

What a miss by Rooney.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:17 pm

What a miss by Rooney x2

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Post by Guest Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:17 pm

All well & good from Jack, shame you can't build anything around him or rely on him to be fit. Jack can do all this vs minnows, never happening at the euros dictating like this.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:17 pm

For flip's sake.

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Post by jbeadlesbigrighthand Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:19 pm

LiamB wrote:All well & good from Jack, shame you can't build anything around him or rely on him to be fit. Jack can do all this vs minnows, never happening at the euros dictating like this.
Wilshere's good enough to dominate games at any level. He's just made of glass.

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Post by Guest Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:21 pm

Lol at any level, anyone can dominate given time & playing b rate opposition, that's what jack does & what Welbeck does in these qualifiers.

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Post by Stella Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:23 pm

Wilshere's not as good as some make out but he still has more creativity in his left foot and brain than any other English midfielder.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:28 pm

It is a genuine travesty that Andros Townsend is considered to be an international starter
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Post by Duty281 Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:31 pm

Oh our boy Jack!

En-gerrrrrr-land!

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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:33 pm

His best England performance by a mile. Outstanding performance by him and 2 cracking goals.

Still a tw*t though.

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Post by nadeem2099 Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:41 pm

What a goal!
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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:42 pm

oh ffs

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Post by Duty281 Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:43 pm

Good cross, nice header.

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Post by nadeem2099 Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:44 pm

Rooney scores.
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Post by NickisBHAFC Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:44 pm

ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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Post by Duty281 Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:44 pm

Oh Wazza!

Clive says England have won it now with four minutes left. Not yet!!!

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Post by nadeem2099 Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:47 pm

Lucky Sterling.
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Post by nadeem2099 Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:52 pm

Great second half for the neutral.
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Post by compelling and rich Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:53 pm

World class Rooney turns match winner blah blah blah

We'll ignore the other 88 minutes where we should have been out of sight

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 14 Jun 2015, 6:58 pm

Jesus, United fans and Rooney. Don't deserve the lad, really don't.

Incredible from Wilshere, pleasantly surprised by Lallana, Sterling played alright and Rooney notched the winner. Negatives were Gibbs and Cahill.

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Post by sportform Sun 14 Jun 2015, 7:02 pm

Three good goals by England. Not the most convincing performance though. England are still to static at times and leave too much room between the lines which can isolate the defence or forward lines at times. Need to play more as a unit. Defence needs work. Not sure what Clyne has done to Hodgson?
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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 14 Jun 2015, 7:07 pm

England keep the ball well and have players capable of moments of magic to create or score goals. Defensively though.....dodgy compared to the very best teams out there. Just my opinion mind.
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Post by Duty281 Sun 14 Jun 2015, 7:21 pm

compelling and rich wrote:World class Rooney turns match winner blah blah blah

We'll ignore the other 88 minutes where we should have been out of sight

Agreed. He shelled two equally good chances before the winner and his all-round play was atrocious.

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Post by Stella Sun 14 Jun 2015, 7:23 pm

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compelling and rich wrote:World class Rooney turns match winner blah blah blah

We'll ignore the other 88 minutes where we should have been out of sight

Agreed. He shelled two equally good chances before the winner and his all-round play was atrocious.

Great pass for Sterling in the first half, though he did waste a couple of chances.
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Post by GSC Sun 14 Jun 2015, 8:39 pm

Fairly average performance, Wilshere comfortably Englands best player by a country mile for the 2nd time in a week.

Phil Jones abysmal, game passed Henderson by again
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Post by mystiroakey Sun 14 Jun 2015, 10:47 pm

Good ole wilshire. Amazing performance. Ok a bit lucky that he had zero fatigue compared to others. But those goals were so class.

Great second half. Entertaining stuff.


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Post by Nakatomi Plaza Sun 14 Jun 2015, 11:28 pm

Entertaining match, we should have won more comfortably, but for poor finishing from Rooney and Sterling.

Wilshere England's man of the match again, and he's been England's best player by a country mile this season.

Phil Jones should never play right back for England again. I've defended Hodgson a number of times, but I cannot understand why he keeps playing centre halves (Stones, Chambers and now Jones), at right back rather than Clyne.

Jones has regressed massively in the past couple of years. I thought he'd be a to centre half on his early showings at Blackburn and United but he's arguably a worse player now than when he first broke into Blackburn's side.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 15 Jun 2015, 11:57 am

True we cannot let goals in like that. Clyne needs all the game time possible there..

In the middle f knows.

But jag has played better for country this season than club so him and Cahill although no terry and Rio are average..

Our attack looks as good as most in the world.. So it's looking ok as an England fan.

Let's hope we get a top 8 or better(shouldn't be to hard as only 8 drop out to a 16 after the round of groups.

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