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Post by Crimey on Mon 06 Apr 2015, 2:29 pm

First topic message reminder :

Removed the old one because it was full of crap.

Remember that this section is open only under the condition that it isn't used to attack others. Attacks based on religion was a big reason why it was closed the last two times, so cut it out. If you can't play nicely, don't play at all. 

Next time I'm just deleting the section, it's a waste of my time having to wade through all the crap. This thread is supposed to be light-hearted, keep it that way.

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Post by Guest on Wed 26 Oct 2016, 12:32 pm

SecretFly wrote:Too many non-graduates being forced out of the manual work environment by bosses who think they'd prefer have a science degree ...
Or just an "academic degree". It is called the "academisation" of labour, and is used as a form of post-justification of the higher education system. The snowflake generation is one of the side effects of this system.

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Post by dyrewolfe on Thu 27 Oct 2016, 11:29 am

Ent wrote:Outside of the Labour Party membership not sure there are many people like that about.

More of a problem is the not on my doorstep brigade, leading to the situation where there is a 40 year delay on Heathrow expansion...


My biggest problem with Heathrow expansion is that apparently they are going to have to knock a load houses down to make room for that third runway.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/heathrow-airport-expansion-how-the-small-village-of-harmondsworth-could-be-destroyed-to-clear-space-10359187.html

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Why couldn't they have gone with Gatwick, Stansted, Luton or even Boris Johnson Island airport in the middle of the Thames estuary?

Call me strange, but I don't think people should have to find new homes just so even more aircraft have to be stacked and managed in already crowded airspace.


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Too many non-graduates being forced out of the manual work environment by bosses who think they'd prefer have a science degree ...
Or just an "academic degree". It is called the "academisation" of labour, and is used as a form of post-justification of the higher education system. The snowflake generation is one of the side effects of this system.

Well at least its good to see apprenticeships on the rise again. Its long overdue that companies recognised the benefits of growing your own skills base in-house.

I'd have loved to have done an apprenticeship myself, but I was part of the "snowflake generation" when degrees were all the rage and industry generally wasn't interested in apprenticeship schemes.
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Post by Ent on Thu 27 Oct 2016, 11:41 am

The country needs airports, they have to be build somewhere.

Have to feel sorry for anyone who has to move but they are getting 125% of market value for their home as compensation.

All those other spots were looked into in the Davies report and were thought to be as disruptive or have prohibitive costs.

Been delayed 40 years apparently.

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Post by SecretFly on Thu 27 Oct 2016, 2:44 pm

How many historic (if any) buildings are set to be levelled?  I mean old taverns, distinctive buildings, buildings that communities felt were special and should be preserved?

As for the market value?  Who is going to be the one that is privileged to call the market value of each home to be destroyed.  A home is worth what you can get for it and depending on how well kept or how well modified/ modernised a home is can have an influence on the price of one home in a street as distinct from another one in the same street.  I'm not sure the idea of 125% is going to placate people who will feel the estimates will always be downsized.
Besides, given the wealth generating potential for companies involved in the new runway (from contractors, to service industries, to airlines, to transport, to government coffers) over the next century - I think a generalised 125% for such a sundering of communities and families is miserly.

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Post by Ent on Thu 27 Oct 2016, 3:10 pm

Don't know, there are dissenters and people who lose out when ever anything is done - you do what's best for 95% of people 95% of the time and sort out the people that fall between the cracks. This has been held back 40 years already.

We'd be living in the Stone Age still if the majority allowed the minority to prevent progress.

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Post by SecretFly on Thu 27 Oct 2016, 3:30 pm

Ent wrote:
We'd be living in the Stone Age still if the majority allowed the minority to prevent progress.

Laugh
Yeah, the Afican continent is forever grateful for the largesse of the Colonial progessionists of the past.  
Actually, why don't they build the new runway from Westminster Parliament right out to Buckingham palace.  After all, the minority around those parts have stalled the modern development of this space for too long now.   Out with the old, in with the new.Wink

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Post by Guest on Thu 27 Oct 2016, 5:31 pm

The Romans gave the "world" roads and the British gave the world railways.  When the Germans and Tsarist Russia were looking to create an Empire in the world they couldn't understand how the British did it - with their in the large part Oxbridge educated officers, stiff upper lips, fair play and Christian ethics.  The leftie nutbars like to paint the British as some sort of evil empire, whereas in fact on the whole they weren't. controlling huge parts of the globe with few forces.  The biggest killer in those days were famine and disease that Britain had little control over or understanding - but they supported the science to get a better understanding of and eventually consigned famine to history and reduced disease.  The British in general peaceably gave up their colonial possessions and promoted the concepts of slave free labour and free trade.  The EU is anything but a free trader outside of the EU, responsible for sustaining the Common Agriculture Policy (huge support for EU, especially French agriculture) at the expense of food grown in poor nations such as Africa and elsewhere.

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Post by compelling and rich on Thu 27 Oct 2016, 5:40 pm

[/quote] Well at least its good to see apprenticeships on the rise again. Its long overdue that companies recognised the benefits of growing your own skills base in-house.

I'd have loved to have done an apprenticeship myself, but I was part of the "snowflake generation" when degrees were all the rage and industry generally wasn't interested in apprenticeship schemes
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cant stand how apprenticeships are being run in my work, its basically another excuse for cheap labor. they have took all overtime away from us, sacked a couple and hired apprenticeships in their place and gave them all the hours because their cheaper. at the end of there course they rarely get a job out of it and have learnt f&ck all because they basically been a lackey for two years

after the two years we start all over again with some other brain dead youngster who we have to teach all over again

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Post by ShahenshahG on Thu 27 Oct 2016, 5:51 pm

Thats it right there C&R, some people hear about apprenticeships and think yeah, I know that'll work, it's old school whereas in reality its a cop out from Osbourne to fiddle with the unemployment figures and help his mates out with cheap labour. There's a 55 year old apprentice at my old workplace, an accountant who has been an accountant for 10 years, apprenticing in the accounts department.

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Post by Guest on Thu 27 Oct 2016, 11:40 pm

Compelling & Rich wrote: cant stand how apprenticeships are being run in my work, its basically another excuse for cheap labor. they have took all overtime away from us, sacked a couple and hired apprenticeships in their place and gave them all the hours because their cheaper. at the end of there course they rarely get a job out of it and have learnt f&ck all because they basically been a lackey for two years

after the two years we start all over again with some other brain dead youngster who we have to teach all over again

Seem to recall a government deal with private industry to run these apprenticeship schemes, something along the lines of the government paying the apprentice the job seekers allowance or equivalent + the company a grant for the extra overheads concerned.  But some companies took advantage of the scheme by sacking all the apprentices once their terms ended and then employing fresh apprentices.  Of course, the normal employees suffered as indicated by Compelling & Rich, while the apprentices did receive training even if it didn't lead to a job. As always with these types of schemes, they have to be carefully monitored because private companies will try to game the system for their own benefit, within a competitive environment.

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Post by Rowley on Fri 28 Oct 2016, 7:18 am

My nephew did an IT apprenticeship, started doing the most basic database entry and never did anything other than this. At the end of the two year the lads who had shown themselves to be reliable and hard working were kept on on wages peanuts above what they were getting as apprentices doing exactly the same easy mind numbing work.

As a consequence of this he has gone to uni. I understand a lot of folks points about too many going to uni etc but frequently the other available options are not a lot better.


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Post by dyrewolfe on Fri 28 Oct 2016, 12:03 pm

Ent wrote:The country needs airports, they have to be build somewhere.

Have to feel sorry for anyone who has to move but they are getting 125% of market value for their home as compensation.

All those other spots were looked into in the Davies report and were thought to be as disruptive or have prohibitive costs.

Been delayed 40 years apparently.


In addition to what SecretFly said, its not just about being dispossessed.

What about people's jobs and if they have kids, where will they go to school? What if they have elderly / disabled relatives nearby who rely on them for care?

You're assuming (as probably did the people who wrote the reports) that those who will need to find new homes, will be able to do so in reasonably close proximity.

What if they end up having to move to a completely different part of the country?
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Post by dyrewolfe on Fri 28 Oct 2016, 12:07 pm

Ent wrote:Don't know, there are dissenters and people who lose out when ever anything is done - you do what's best for 95% of people 95% of the time and sort out the people that fall between the cracks. This has been held back 40 years already.

We'd be living in the Stone Age still if the majority allowed the minority to prevent progress.

I don't disagree we need more capacity to handle air traffic. The point is there are other airports that could be expanded without having to knock down a load of houses.

The scheme is going to cost billions whatever option is chosen, so I don't see the problem in spending a bit more to create extra transport links, or whatever is needed, to build the runway in a different location.
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Post by Ent on Fri 28 Oct 2016, 1:04 pm

dyrewolfe wrote:
Ent wrote:The country needs airports, they have to be build somewhere.

Have to feel sorry for anyone who has to move but they are getting 125% of market value for their home as compensation.

All those other spots were looked into in the Davies report and were thought to be as disruptive or have prohibitive costs.

Been delayed 40 years apparently.


In addition to what SecretFly said, its not just about being dispossessed.

What about people's jobs and if they have kids, where will they go to school? What if they have elderly / disabled relatives nearby who rely on them for care?

You're assuming (as probably did the people who wrote the reports) that those who will need to find new homes, will be able to do so in reasonably close proximity.

What if they end up having to move to a completely different part of the country?

Then they'll be even better off as they'll have got above market value for a London property.

There are obviously issues to address and I feel sorry for anyone who has to move but the facts are the country needs a hub airport and after decades of discussion they've decided the best way is to expand Heathrow.

Doing anything annoys people, don't build anymore houses here we don't want more traffic, don't build in that green space I like the view, don't put fibre optics in my area I don't want my garden dig up etc etc

The greater good and all that.

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Post by Guest on Fri 28 Oct 2016, 3:59 pm

I assume there are good reasons for expanding Heathrow compared to the alternatives and that those reasons have been explained to the general public by the taxpayer funded BBC in their reporting of the matter ... rather than the BBC running scare stories and muddying the issues.

On a separate note, I think England is too London centric and there should be more investment and incentives to decentralise England.  Let's make Bradford or Leeds our capital city - or better still lets convert an area of green land or brown land or wasteland up north into a new city which will become the new capital city.  With housing shortages there is need for new towns and cities.

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Post by Guest on Fri 28 Oct 2016, 7:30 pm

Planning permission is one overly bureaucratic system that prevents or slows down the pace of house building in the UK.  Here is a story from the BBC regarding planning permission for a kids Wendy House:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-37794744

It is reported that a neighbour is complaining about the light - one wonders what one does if the neighbour has a tree in their garden.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Tue 01 Nov 2016, 10:23 am

Nore Staat wrote:Planning permission is one overly bureaucratic system that prevents or slows down the pace of house building in the UK.  Here is a story from the BBC regarding planning permission for a kids Wendy House:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-37794744

It is reported that a neighbour is complaining about the light - one wonders what one does if the neighbour has a tree in their garden.
Huh? The Wendy house is a man-made structure and there are regs about building such. A tree just grows, although you'll no doubt be aware of the stories re. leylandii and their maintenance.
People aren't considerate of others (in fact, I'd say they're getting less and less considerate), therefore you have rules to force them to be considerate. Don't blame the Planning Officers.
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Post by navyblueshorts on Tue 01 Nov 2016, 10:25 am

Nore Staat wrote:I think the educational system, comprised of teachers (who teach rather than do), give manual work a bad name (teachers justifying their own mickymouse courses and hence their own jobs).  [It is not just teachers - it is the whole educational system that is not fit for purpose - or at least not fit for a significant number of young people and our society.]

I would incorporate manual work into a lifestyle that focuses on physical fitness and pride in production, fruits of their labour.  "Even" road sweepers can take pride in the cleanliness of "their" streets.  Fruit pickers (seasonal labour) can take pride in the quality & quantity of their pickings & the knowledge they are contributing to local food production and their own physical health.  Several amateur sports team developed from the social bonding activities of manual workers.
Is it me, or does the above sound like the post-Weimar Republic socialist Germany dreamed of by Der Führer all those years ago? Or perhaps it's the U.S.S.R. of Stalin?
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Post by SecretFly on Tue 01 Nov 2016, 10:30 am

Well..roadsweepers do exist...so, well yeah, I don't think we should be throwing rotten tomatoes at them as we pass by in our Mercs on the way to the 'City' to prove we ain't Fascists or Commies Wink

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Post by superflyweight on Tue 01 Nov 2016, 10:34 am

navyblueshorts wrote:
Nore Staat wrote:I think the educational system, comprised of teachers (who teach rather than do), give manual work a bad name (teachers justifying their own mickymouse courses and hence their own jobs).  [It is not just teachers - it is the whole educational system that is not fit for purpose - or at least not fit for a significant number of young people and our society.]

I would incorporate manual work into a lifestyle that focuses on physical fitness and pride in production, fruits of their labour.  "Even" road sweepers can take pride in the cleanliness of "their" streets.  Fruit pickers (seasonal labour) can take pride in the quality & quantity of their pickings & the knowledge they are contributing to local food production and their own physical health.  Several amateur sports team developed from the social bonding activities of manual workers.
Is it me, or does the above sound like the post-Weimar Republic socialist Germany dreamed of by Der Führer all those years ago? Or perhaps it's the U.S.S.R. of Stalin?

It's also really outdated given that advancements in AI and associated technology will mean that the type of manual work described will soon largely be made obsolete.

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Post by SecretFly on Tue 01 Nov 2016, 10:47 am

superflyweight wrote:

It's also really outdated given that advancements in AI and associated technology will mean that the type of manual work described will soon largely be made obsolete.

Good point; and a very interesting proposed future that few seem to want to discuss in any real detail in mainstream media - before the event rather than after it.
So my question is: what do the billions of people do then who have no work and therefore no means of educating themselves, feeding themselves or housing themselves? Indeed, who actually buys all the stuff that machines make and delivers to people's frontdoor cardboard boxes in this Utopian future world?

The Billions revolt against the automators of this world in a way the world has never seen before and we're back to the Stone age pronto - that would be one bleak assessment of how things might go.  But there does seem to be a naïve sense amongst the programmers and AI systems funders and creators that the billions of humans that are no longer needed will just accept a cardboard box and bin food as they watch eBay goods fly over their heads to the millionaire's penthouse in the sky.  AI technologists are smart people but boy, are they dumb.

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Post by superflyweight on Tue 01 Nov 2016, 10:59 am

Indeed. Aldous Huxley's 'Brave New World' looking ever more prescient.

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Post by rIck_dAgless on Tue 01 Nov 2016, 1:04 pm

Quad bikes on roads, and bikers like these bell ends

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-37830539


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Post by Guest on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 9:12 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:
Nore Staat wrote:I think the educational system, comprised of teachers (who teach rather than do), give manual work a bad name (teachers justifying their own mickymouse courses and hence their own jobs).  [It is not just teachers - it is the whole educational system that is not fit for purpose - or at least not fit for a significant number of young people and our society.]

I would incorporate manual work into a lifestyle that focuses on physical fitness and pride in production, fruits of their labour.  "Even" road sweepers can take pride in the cleanliness of "their" streets.  Fruit pickers (seasonal labour) can take pride in the quality & quantity of their pickings & the knowledge they are contributing to local food production and their own physical health.  Several amateur sports team developed from the social bonding activities of manual workers.
Is it me, or does the above sound like the post-Weimar Republic socialist Germany dreamed of by Der Führer all those years ago? Or perhaps it's the U.S.S.R. of Stalin?
If you provided a plausible argument to support your weird assertions then one could consider a response to your comment. But as it stands it is nonsense.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Fri 04 Nov 2016, 8:20 am

Nore Staat wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
Nore Staat wrote:I think the educational system, comprised of teachers (who teach rather than do), give manual work a bad name (teachers justifying their own mickymouse courses and hence their own jobs).  [It is not just teachers - it is the whole educational system that is not fit for purpose - or at least not fit for a significant number of young people and our society.]

I would incorporate manual work into a lifestyle that focuses on physical fitness and pride in production, fruits of their labour.  "Even" road sweepers can take pride in the cleanliness of "their" streets.  Fruit pickers (seasonal labour) can take pride in the quality & quantity of their pickings & the knowledge they are contributing to local food production and their own physical health.  Several amateur sports team developed from the social bonding activities of manual workers.
Is it me, or does the above sound like the post-Weimar Republic socialist Germany dreamed of by Der Führer all those years ago? Or perhaps it's the U.S.S.R. of Stalin?
If you provided a plausible argument to support your weird assertions then one could consider a response to your comment.  But as it stands it is nonsense.
Said the pot to the kettle. I would have thought that as you wrote it, it's plainly apparent why one might see hints of Stalinist Russia or Hitler's Germany. Never mind.
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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Mon 07 Nov 2016, 11:06 am

The poppy.

Or rather, what the poppy has become. It's moved far away from being a symbol of remembrance and honour for those who gave their lives in WWI. Nowadays if you don't wear a poppy you're somehow being disrespectful, or (apparently worse), unpatriotic. Surely it is up to each of us to decide how to honour the fallen (or indeed bemoan the at times useless waste of life that was WWI), and that very freedom is part of what our ancestors fought for?

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Post by SecretFly on Mon 07 Nov 2016, 11:37 am

Mad for Chelsea wrote:The poppy.

Or rather, what the poppy has become. It's moved far away from being a symbol of remembrance and honour for those who gave their lives in WWI. Nowadays if you don't wear a poppy you're somehow being disrespectful, or (apparently worse), unpatriotic. Surely it is up to each of us to decide how to honour the fallen (or indeed bemoan the at times useless waste of life that was WWI), and that very freedom is part of what our ancestors fought for?

OK

Nothing against the Poppy.  All poor men who went to that bullschit war to die in rat holes for their pompous top-hatted Leaders, Politicians, Kings, Princes and Chancellors deserve to be remembered for their pointless sacrifice.  WW1 only set the clock for the beginning of an even bigger wastage of life - WW2.
But this fever for 'correct opinion and action' is becoming a dangerous epidemic.  

EXample: Brexit.  It's what the majority of British people wanted and voted for, but in most media platforms it has been deemed a 'wrong' decision.  On practically every discussion panel since, the majority of commentators have been allowed to be dismissive critics of that very majority of voters.  
Pro-Brexitism is therefore deemed guilty of being a Thought-crime by the intelligencia of the British State (ie, entertainers, pseudo-comedians, journalistic commentators and stylish urbanites Wink
Now even the establishment courts are trying to punish the Crime.  "Oh it's not that we want to change the decision of the majority but simply that we want to allow the minority to have the legal tools to turn the decision around 180 degrees."  

Orwell keeps popping up in my head as the world becomes incrementally less and less tolerant of 'difference' in this supposedly more and more 'modern' world.  The Regimental Toy Soldier Top-Hattery Attitude rises again: "Do this!", "Don't say that!", "Wear this!", "Don't speak out of turn" "Don't make wrong decisions".  Yep, our wonderful world Leaders might be planning a lovely new world war to send us all to and are getting us familiar with obeying their commands without question again.

Wear a Poppy if you want to.  Don't be commanded to.

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Post by ShahenshahG on Mon 07 Nov 2016, 3:56 pm

Life in the uk is just a round of measures and countermeasures with prevention of the latest wings wrongdoing turning into oppression of said wing's views which results in their ascendancy and it starts all over again and again and again.

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Post by dyrewolfe on Tue 08 Nov 2016, 1:14 pm

We're all just hamsters in a giant wheel, going round and round and round...

As a personal thing, I like to wear a poppy, both to make a donation to the Royal British Legion, which does sterling work to support the armed forces and their families and as a simple act of remembrance.

Have noticed though I've been getting some funny looks (more than usual) from other people. I think its a bit sad actually. When I was a kid it was rare to see people without poppies at this time of year...now its rare to see anyone wearing them. Although I have noticed more people putting those oversized ones on their cars or lorries.
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Post by aja424 on Mon 14 Nov 2016, 12:30 pm

Repetitive necro posting.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Wed 16 Nov 2016, 5:31 pm

The current vogue for that stupid mannequin challenge. **** off!
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Post by compelling and rich on Wed 16 Nov 2016, 5:47 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:The current vogue for that stupid mannequin challenge. **** off!

could probably add any fad thats on facebook. bottle/chair flipping, nut megs, the dab, all these "pranks" half of which are fake. just shows you that the young generation are all bel!ends these days.

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Post by SecretFly on Wed 16 Nov 2016, 6:02 pm

...just add Facebook. Cool

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Post by compelling and rich on Wed 16 Nov 2016, 6:08 pm

SecretFly wrote:...just add Facebook. Cool

where will i watch dog videos then?? its about the only reason im still on it

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Post by rIck_dAgless on Thu 17 Nov 2016, 7:02 am

Saying that, the ice bucket challenge actually raised the money which ended up being used in a highly constructive way which has ended in a very positive outcome...

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Post by lfc91 on Thu 17 Nov 2016, 7:22 am

compelling and rich wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:The current vogue for that stupid mannequin challenge. **** off!

could probably add any fad thats on facebook. bottle/chair flipping, nut megs, the dab, all these "pranks" half of which are fake. just shows you that the young generation are all bel!ends these days.

I'm 25, am I too young to hate the young generation? Bel!ends a very appropriate description for the majority of them.

And while we're on in who invented a 'dab'? So I can assassinate that person...

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 09 Dec 2016, 3:58 pm

That another year has passed without somebody remaking Scrooge with Jose Mourinho in the lead role....

"Marley you were specialist in failure"...

"Four ghosts in one night...There is conspiracy against Mourinho"....


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Post by Breadvan on Thu 22 Dec 2016, 11:03 am

People doing something mundane but referring to it, especially on social media, as 'goals'

P1ss off...
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Post by rIck_dAgless on Thu 22 Dec 2016, 11:04 am

Anyone posting a picture of a generic Pandora bracelet and proclaiming they are either "spoilt" or "lucky"

Doubly so if they hash tag it.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu 22 Dec 2016, 1:21 pm

Christmas work parties......Lucky enough to have missed ours for the last few years....With travelling..

Pretending to enjoy the company of people who you are unlucky enough to have to "enjoy" all year seems a bit pointless to me..

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu 26 Jan 2017, 9:46 am

Telegraph poll...

Should the UK stop putting the clocks back and forward an hour every year ??

Yes 55%....No 26%...

Must say I agree with the majority...

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Post by Derbymanc on Thu 26 Jan 2017, 10:04 am

The MCA - How can you not follow your own guidelines and then say it's my fault ALL my work documents are missing.

Companies that email straight back and then take forever when you reply to them asking them to explain

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu 26 Jan 2017, 12:00 pm

Derbymanc wrote:The MCA - How can you not follow your own guidelines and then say it's my fault ALL my work documents are missing.

Companies that email straight back and then take forever when you reply to them asking them to explain

You need a holiday.....Or a change of vocation...

Become a pornstar or something..

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Post by Derbymanc on Thu 26 Jan 2017, 7:27 pm

Trying to change my vocation Truss, alas there's no joy yet. Still don't understand how you can lose documents sent via Royal Mail recorded delivery before they even get to the post office

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 03 Feb 2017, 1:43 pm

[quote="navyblueshorts"]
Nore Staat wrote:I think the educational system, comprised of teachers (who teach rather than do), give manual work a bad name (teachers justifying their own mickymouse courses and hence their own jobs).  [It is not just teachers - it is the whole educational system that is not fit for purpose - or at least not fit for a significant number of young people and our society.]

I would incorporate manual work into a lifestyle that focuses on physical fitness and pride in production, fruits of their labour.  "Even" road sweepers can take pride in the cleanliness of "their" streets.  


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Fri 03 Feb 2017, 1:46 pm

No more important job than teaching......Trouble is many teachers know their subjects in and out but can't get it across......

Communication skills and personality should be essential.......If a kid is interested in a topic he's more likely to be good at it..


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Post by dyrewolfe on Mon 06 Feb 2017, 2:00 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:No more important job than teaching......Trouble is many teachers know their subjects in and out but can't get it across......

Communication skills and personality should be essential.......If a kid is interested in a topic he's more likely to be good at it..



Or if you can make it more interesting and show how its relevant to everyday life.

Think schools need to make a lot more effort to get involved with local businesses, universities etc. who can give entertaining, practical demonstrations of why stuff like maths, physics, chemistry, computer programming etc. are important and what kind of job opportunities are available to school leavers with the right qualifications.

Think there could be a lot more initiatives like what they did with the Bloodhound SSC project - doing tours and making all the data open source.

Not sure how you can make languages more interesting...though that may be more a confidence thing (afraid of looking stupid if you mispronounce, or use the wrong words etc.)

The STEM subjects have a definite advantage in that it should be possible to arrange visits to places that can put on interesting, instructive demonstrations or interactive displays, workshops etc.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 10:37 am

Groundbreaking research from Dr Deborah Carr of Rutgers University that will help us all to live blissfully happy lives...

After extensive research she has concluded that..."The key to a long marriage is to keep your Wife happy!!"

"When your Wife is satisfied with her Husband she will do more for him and it will have a positive effect on his life!!"....

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Post by lfc91 on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 10:48 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Groundbreaking research from Dr Deborah Carr of Rutgers University that will help us all to live blissfully happy lives...

After extensive research she has concluded that..."The key to a long marriage is to keep your Wife happy!!"

"When your Wife is satisfied with her Husband she will do more for him and it will have a positive effect on his life!!"....

Life will never be the same again..... That really grinds my gears thread - Page 17 3559488474 Bubbly

I thought that was relationship 101. If your other half is happy she will let you be happy but if she is unhappy she will make damn sure you are unhappy too!

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Post by SecretFly on Wed 08 Feb 2017, 11:19 am

Interesting new high-level scientific finding there - should help fund her continuing research into the next five or so years.

I also read somewhere that scientists have uncovered that cats are as intelligent as dogs.  I await further research so that they can prove what any pet owners could have told them centuries ago - that cats could buy and sell dogs, and mostly always do.

Next breakthrough from the new generation of scientists will I think be the weird declaration that water is essential to life. If they go that far, then we know they're idiots.

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