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Post by George Carlin Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:48 am

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Continuation of the previous thread from the esteemed Mister GeordieFalcon:
https://www.606v2.com/t57129-silly-season-transfer-rumours
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Post by Geordie Tue May 19, 2015 1:53 pm

Yorkshire are getting a few signings...

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Post by formerly known as Sam Tue May 19, 2015 6:33 pm

A lot of Championship sides are recruiting heavily. Ealing straight up from League 1 are really going for it.

PropDavid, loans still happen but as the Championship sides are getting stronger less players are getting regular spots. For Tigers Thacker has seen some game time off the bench for Doncaster along with Bryant whilst Catchpole and Hempetema got some starts there. Price and Pohe had game time for Notts on a fairly regular basis.

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Post by yappysnap Wed May 20, 2015 7:39 am

propdavid_london wrote:Tom Casson is off! Thats a bit worrying isnt it? I guess he is after more game time - the Casson/Hopper partnership never really worked.

There were snippets of what he can offer though, just not consistent.  

That will leave us with Lowe, JTH, Hopper, Roberts, Merchant is academy cover.  
Is Winston Stanley a 15 or a 12?

Stanley is a physical 12/13 so will hopefully fill in well.

This gives us centre options of:

12. Roberts, Stanley, JTH, Sloane
13. Lowe, Hopper, Marchant, Stanley

Loads of options for once and all of them look good enough. Obviously for a large portion of the season Roberts will be away so I hope to see 12. Stanley/Sloane 13. Lowe as the starting line up depending upon JTH and his injuries, form and If he's stayong.

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Post by lostinwales Thu May 21, 2015 11:30 am

I don't know if it has been mentioned here but Sale have signed twice capped NZ lock Bryn Evans from Biarritz

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/32797058

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Post by The Saint Thu May 21, 2015 10:23 pm

lostinwales wrote:I don't know if it has been mentioned here but Sale have signed twice capped NZ lock Bryn Evans from Biarritz

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/32797058

Aww shucks. If only Gatland had seen that name a bit sooner Wink.

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Post by king_carlos Fri May 22, 2015 2:42 am

George Smith has signed for Wasps.

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,3551_50651,00.html

He had a get out clause in his Lyon contract for if they we relegated.

A legend of the game and still a fantastic player who's experience would add to any side. Will be very interesting to see how he does in the Jeff.

On the other hand Wasps already have their starting back row of Johnson, Haskell and Hughes which is one of the best in the Prem. It therefore very much makes me question where Sam Jones, Guy Thompson and Tom Young will find game time from as they are all at a stage of their careers where they need to play.

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Post by nathan Fri May 22, 2015 7:32 am

Looks like there is the possibility tait could be staying with the Tigers and not leaving

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Post by SirBurger Fri May 22, 2015 11:22 am

king_carlos wrote:George Smith has signed for Wasps.

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,3551_50651,00.html

He had a get out clause in his Lyon contract for if they we relegated.

A legend of the game and still a fantastic player who's experience would add to any side. Will be very interesting to see how he does in the Jeff.

On the other hand Wasps already have their starting back row of Johnson, Haskell and Hughes which is one of the best in the Prem. It therefore very much makes me question where Sam Jones, Guy Thompson and Tom Young will find game time from as they are all at a stage of their careers where they need to play.

Johnson is moving to hooker and I guess Haskell will be away with England for parts of the season (rightly or wrongly), so there should be opportunities for Jones, Thompson and Young.

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Post by Driver Fri May 22, 2015 1:09 pm

Tom Young would benefit massively from George Smith's experience i'd imagine.

A back row of Haskell , Hughes and Young rotating with Smith isn't the worst thing in the world.
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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat May 23, 2015 7:26 am

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/32851333

Wasps confirm Bristow as well as centres Macken and Downey along with London Scottish scrum half Stevenson.

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Post by Fluxy Fri May 29, 2015 10:06 am

Gone a bit quiet. 

Reports are that Paul O'Connell will sign for Toulon for the next two years.

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Post by lostinwales Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:42 pm

Strettle confirmed to Clermont

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Post by Notch Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:02 pm

Fluxy wrote:Gone a bit quiet. 

Reports are that Paul O'Connell will sign for Toulon for the next two years.

It's a good move for him. He's reached the natural end of his Ireland and Munster career but he still has much to offer as a player. The only thing missing from his Munster, Ireland and Lions CV is the World Cup and he'll have his last ever shot at it. After that, he owes Irish rugby nothing. It will be strange seeing him playing for someone else but he deserves it.
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Post by lostinwales Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:03 pm

Wasp's Chris Bell retires with a shoulder injury

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Post by rodders Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:14 pm

I think its an interesting move for O'Connell - he's been in excellent form for Ireland particularly this year but one of his reservations in moving a few seasons ago was that he didn't think his body could cope with the training requirements at a new club, where he wouldn't get the preferential treatment and looked after the way he did at Munster.

I wish him well at Toulon and hope he does himself justice but do wonder if he's missed the boat and might struggle to impose himself down there and be the central figure he's been for Munster, Ireland and the Lions.
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Post by Geordie Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:55 pm

Well Toulon does seem to be an aging rugby player retirement home...but judging by the way they're playing...they seem to be looking after their players well.

Especially when you consider they had Johnny neigh on injury free and brought Juan Smith back from almost certain retirement....

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Post by whocares Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:19 pm

Given Bakkies Botha and Ali Williams are both retiring, POC will certainly have a leadership role to play withinToulon pack. Top quality recruitment, every one in france is happy to see him coming here (and also jealous for most of us...). Meanwhile Clermont hire a 31 years old winger from Saracens...

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Post by The Saint Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:23 pm

Steve Walsh to Ospreys.

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Post by Geordie Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:02 pm

The Saint wrote:Steve Walsh to Ospreys.

The Ref? Shocked Very Happy Wink

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Post by whocares Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:37 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:
The Saint wrote:Steve Walsh to Ospreys.

The Ref? Shocked Very Happy Wink

nah the hairdresser

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Post by lostinwales Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:21 am

Tait remains a tiger!

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Post by formerly known as Sam Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:34 pm

Wyland Oliver strongly linked with Tigers on a one year deal. Tigers rumoured to be lining up a stellar signing next summer but need someone this season given Allen's injury issues and Bai's age. The plus point is that if our younger talent progress there's no issue dropping Olivier unlike if we're landed a current international it also gives us an experienced option for the big games or times when the younger options aren't quite ready.

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Post by king_carlos Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:59 pm

I wonder what will happen with Tom Varndell given Bristol haven't come up?

It would be a great shame if he wasn't playing in the Jeff next year given how prolific he is.

I guess Saracens may be interested though if they are losing Strettle.

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Post by Bathite Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:20 am

Not just Varndell, but Morgan, Lam and Benvenuti would all be great prem options.

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Post by George Carlin Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:07 am

Bathite wrote:Not just Varndell, but Morgan, Lam and Benvenuti would all be great prem options.
For completeness, there is also a young Scottish loose forward called Mitch Eadie who won the club's player's player of the year award in 2013 and would be a superb squad option for just about any Jeff team. He's going to be great.
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Post by formerly known as Sam Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:27 am

A midfield of Morgan, Henson and Benvenutti feeding Varndell and Lemi. Jeez that should rip up the Championship.

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Post by yappysnap Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:48 am

And then they'll stunle at the play offs again...

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Post by formerly known as Sam Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:43 pm

Probably.

Tigers confirm Bateman from the Exeter Cheifs and scrum half Jono Kitto from the Chiefs in NZ.

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Post by propdavid_london Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:15 pm

Hi Sam,
Will they all stay with Brizzle? I would think that guys like Matthew Morgan would want to be off for regular top level games.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:19 pm

Well they were all happy to sign for a Championship club on Premiership wages. Most are there for a pay day so probably won't change their minds as it's a less physical league for good money. That should extend their careers.

That might change if a bigger club shows interest but I can't see many attracting much of that. Morgan may be mulling it over but trying to arrange a release from a club as ambitious as Bristol won't be easy and the playoffs won't have sent his stock high either. Unless of course Bristol need to cut costs then all bets are off.

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Post by Notch Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:36 pm

rodders wrote:I think its an interesting move for O'Connell - he's been in excellent form for Ireland particularly this year but one of his reservations in moving a few seasons ago was that he didn't think his body could cope with the training requirements at a new club, where he wouldn't get the preferential treatment and looked after the way he did at Munster.

I wish him well at Toulon and hope he does himself justice but do wonder if he's missed the boat and might struggle to impose himself down there and be the central figure he's been for Munster, Ireland and the Lions.

You have to think that the way Wilkinson was able to thrive their despite any even more injury racked career factored into his thinking.
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Post by BigGee Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:46 am

Notch wrote:
rodders wrote:I think its an interesting move for O'Connell - he's been in excellent form for Ireland particularly this year but one of his reservations in moving a few seasons ago was that he didn't think his body could cope with the training requirements at a new club, where he wouldn't get the preferential treatment and looked after the way he did at Munster.

I wish him well at Toulon and hope he does himself justice but do wonder if he's missed the boat and might struggle to impose himself down there and be the central figure he's been for Munster, Ireland and the Lions.

You have to think that the way Wilkinson was able to thrive their despite any even more injury racked career factored into his thinking.

The French clubs tend to rotate their players a fair bit anyway, so I doubt if he will get overplayed down there. Probably with giving up the international games at the same time, it will seem like a bit of a holiday with pay (lots of it!)

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Post by Guest Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:23 pm

Faletau to Northampton is a rumour apparently

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Post by formerly known as Sam Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:28 pm

Two big name players are supposed to be announced by Saints tomorrow. Who knows how true that is but the Faletau rumour would tie in. The also badly need an 8. Could be a good marquee signing for them to replace Manoa.

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Post by dragon4life Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:45 pm

Risca Rev wrote:Faletau to Northampton is a rumour apparently
I know a close friend to Faletau and he is very much a home boy and wants to stay in Gwent so I would imagine Northampton is too far. Saints would also have to buy him out of contract

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Post by The Saint Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:55 pm

Faletau to Bath should start circling again soon then.

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Post by king_carlos Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:04 pm

Rumours are that one of the two Saints signings is a very big name - i.e. one of the top few players in the world.

Vermuelen is the main name that seems to be circling given he has turned down a SARU contract and they need a replacement for Manoa.

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Post by The Saint Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:16 am

I thought I read Vermuelen was on his way to Toulon a while ago? Along with most other Boks...

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:18 am

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Risca Rev wrote:Faletau to Northampton is a rumour apparently
I know a close friend to Faletau and he is very much a home boy and wants to stay in Gwent so I would imagine Northampton is too far. Saints would also have to buy him out of contract

I agree. I know he's a big Gwent boy literally too. Just putting the rumour on here, seeing as it's the appropriate thread.

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Post by king_carlos Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:20 am

That's what I thought as well Saint but the rumour of one signing being one of the best few players in the world seems to have pulled his name back into the mill. No idea if those rumours are substantiated or not. Then again I'm yet to really see any substance to the Toulon rumours other than them having the money to sign almost anyone - although that has been a successful bargaining chip I will accept.

Being hopeful a bit may depend on whether Toulon are going to play Gorgodze more, and where they will utilise him and Manoa.

4.Taofifenua or Manoa/Gorgodze
5.O'Connell
6.Lobbe or Smith
7.Armitage
8.Gorgodze/Manoa

It wouldn't be surprising for them to add Vermuelen to that but at the same time it isn't weak resources!

Whilst I'd much rather it wasn't at an east midlands rivals I'd love to see Vermuelen in the Jeff so here's hoping. Hug

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Post by Fanster Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:15 am

^^^

That is a ridiculous back row in itself, adding Vermuelen to that would be homicidal to the rest of France and Europe!

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Post by Geordie Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:26 am

Well if North is there he has a fellow Welshman to keep him company.

But Vermuelen would make more sense if he has rejected a contract etc.


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Post by Welly Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:16 am

Reckon Vermuelen will go Toulon.

Can't see Faletau leaving his contract as well.

Gorgodze is apprentlry leaving Toulon.

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Post by SirBurger Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:06 am

Weren't there rumours of Folau to Saints a while ago? Seems unlikely but would fit the ball more than Faletau if it is genuinely one of the top players in the world? I can't see Vermeulen pulling out of his Toulon deal.

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Post by Welly Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:10 am

Only saw the one source re Saints and Folau and it was from rugby inside line Twitter account which seems to link everyone with anyone.

IMO I can see Folau going Japan and playing for Waratahs (like Foley) his coaches have already said he is looking for a flexible contract with the ARU.

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Post by Geordie Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:13 am

Thought Gorgodze was going to Quins...or was that just Yappy praying...

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Post by Geordie Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:20 am

SirBurger wrote:Weren't there rumours of Folau to Saints a while ago? Seems unlikely but would fit the ball more than Faletau if it is genuinely one of the top players in the world? I can't see Vermeulen pulling out of his Toulon deal.

Hey now...we're not letting Sinotti go for any amount of money!!!

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Post by Seagultaf Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:52 pm

Morgan will stay at Bristol if he wants first team rugby, he is just not good enough at 10 for the top level. May make an useful impact sub at 15 but not at 10. The target for the bigger clubs is likely to be Welsh 2nd row Evans who despite his recent injury record is a top class player who won't get back into the Welsh set up playing at the second tier.

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Post by Seagultaf Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:53 pm

Morgan will stay at Bristol if he wants first team rugby, he is just not good enough at 10 for the top level. May make an useful impact sub at 15 but not at 10. The target for the bigger clubs is likely to be Welsh 2nd row Evans who despite his recent injury record is a top class player who won't get back into the Welsh set up playing at the second tier.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:59 pm

Evans might be a punt for Saints or Sale. Saints have Lawes, Day and newly signed Paterson on the books then back row who can cover which isn't ideal for a club competing on two fronts. Sale have lost Paterson and Hines this summer so may be keen to add something to their tight five. Steve Diamond does make hard working players look good.

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