Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread VIII

[RuggerRadge2611]

First topic message reminder :

Ye Olde Banter:

https://www.606v2.com/t48240-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread
https://www.606v2.com/t51313-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-ii
https://www.606v2.com/t53119-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-iii
https://www.606v2.com/t54519-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-iv
https://www.606v2.com/t55409-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-v-the-fun-continues
https://www.606v2.com/t56913p950-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-vi-banter-boogaloo
https://www.606v2.com/t57946-glasgow-and-edinburgh-ongoing-banter-thread-vii



A. Edinburgh
   

1. League Results  

Fri 5 Sep: Munster Rugby 13 - 14 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 12 Sep: Edinburgh Rugby 13 - 14 Connacht Rugby

Sun 21 Sep: Ospreys 62 - 13 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 26 Sep: Edinburgh Rugby 20 - 20 Scarlets

Fri 3 Oct: Ulster Rugby 30 - 0 Edinburgh Rugby

Sat 11 Oct: Edinburgh Rugby 24 - 10 Newport Gwent Dragons

Fri 31 Oct: Leinster Rugby 33 - 8 Edinburgh Rugby

Sun 23 Nov: Edinburgh Rugby 28 - 13 Cardiff Blues

Sat 29 Nov: Zebre 18 - 10 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 19 Dec: Edinburgh Rugby 48 - 0 Benetton Treviso

Sat 27 Dec: Glasgow Warriors 16 - 6 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 2 Jan: Edinburgh Rugby - 20 - 8 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 9 Jan: Connacht Rugby 13 - 16 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 13 Feb: Edinburgh Rugby 24 - 16 Ospreys

Fri 20 Feb: Edinburgh Rugby 17 - 20 Ulster Rugby

Sun 1 Mar: Cardiff Blues 21 - 15 Edinburgh Rugby

Sat 7 Mar: Benetton Treviso 8 - 29 Edinburgh

Sat 28 Mar: Scarlets 15 - 26 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 24 Apr: Edinburgh Rugby 3 - 34 Munster Rugby

2. European Results  

17/10/14: Bordeaux-Begles 13 - 15 Edinburgh Rugby

24/10/14: Edinburgh Rugby 25 - 17 Lyon

7/12/14: Edinburgh Rugby 25 - 13 London Welsh

14/12/14: London Welsh 6 - 24 Edinburgh Rugby

17/01/2015: Lyon 21 - 19 Edinburgh Rugby

23/01/2015: Edinburgh Rugby 38 - 20 Bordeaux-Begles

05/04/2015: London Irish 18-23 Edinburgh

17/04/2015: Edinburgh 45-16 Dragons

B. Glasgow


1. League Results  

Sat 6 Sep: Glasgow Warriors 22 - 20 Leinster Rugby

Sun 14 Sep: Cardiff Blues 12 - 33 Glasgow Warriors

Sat 20 Sep: Newport Gwent Dragons 13 - 33 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 26 Sep: Glasgow Warriors 39 - 21 Connacht Rugby

Sun 5 Oct: Benetton Treviso 23 - 40 Glasgow Warriors

Sat 11 Oct: Ulster Rugby 29 - 9 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 31 Oct: Glasgow Warriors 17 - 9 Benetton Treviso

Fri 21 Nov: Scarlets 19 - 9 Glasgow Warriors

Sun 30 Nov: Glasgow Warriors 19 - 15 Newport Gwent Dragons

Sat 20 Dec: Glasgow Warriors 21 - 18 Munster Rugby

Sat 27 Dec: Glasgow Warriors 16 - 6 Edinburgh Rugby

Fri 2 Jan: Edinburgh Rugby 20 - 8 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 9 Jan: Glasgow Warriors 22 - 7 Scarlets

Sun 15 Feb: Zebre 10 - 54 Glasgow Warriors

Sat 21 Feb: Glasgow Warriors 19 - 16 Ospreys

Sat 28 Feb: Munster Rugby 22 - 10 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 6 Mar: Glasgow Warriors 26 - 5 Zebre

Fri 27 Mar: Leinster Rugby 34 - 34 Glasgow Warriors

Fri 10 Apr: Glasgow Warriors 36 - 17 Cardiff Blues


2. European Results  

18/10/14: Glasgow Warriors 37 - 10 Bath Rugby

25/10/14: Montpellier 13 - 15 Glasgow Warriors

7/12/14: Toulouse 19 - 11 Glasgow Warriors

13/12/14: Glasgow Warriors 9 - 12 Toulouse

18/01/2015: Glasgow Warriors 21 - 10 Montpellier

25/01/2015: Bath Rugby 20 - 15 Glasgow Warriors

Hopefully this thread will keep GC off my back for a wee while...

[RuggerRadge2611]

I have an admiration for these people who volunteer to knock on doors - must be terrifying. A friend of mine does it for Labour and some local kids kicked a football in her face!

I wasn't unpleasent. I would have been if he had interrupted Game of Thrones or something I just asked him a few questions and he had no answers. My postal vote arrived yesterday. I'm half tempted to draw a box at the bottom with "none of the above" and put an X in it.

[funnyExiledScot]

You may be unsurprised to hear that I'll be voting tactically against the SNP!

[RuggerRadge2611]

No party represents me anymore. I'm a member of a political party but have become disillusioned with them, no points for figuring out which one it is.

What I want is a political party with the following Values:

1. The UKIP's defence policies
2. Labour's socialism
3. The Tory's economic responsibility
4. The SNP/Plaid's ideals for greater powers for Wales and Scotland without sacrificing the union.
5. A pledge to assist people in need across the world
6. Closer ties with Europe

I could go on but I won't. Too many parties are trying to hug the middle ground and I don't trust the SNP with the economy or defence so I have no real choice that suits me in this election.

I am wary of getting into political debates here. They are frowned upon and I don't want to put GC and RDW in a difficult position.

[RDW]

I had a SNP member at my door last night asking about my voting intentions.

I asked him why his party was encouraging people to vote green when their policies are anathema to his party's bedrock principal of drilling as much oil as possible from the North sea and supporting the Scottish Economy. He had no answer.

So I then quizzed him on the fact that the SNP had been lobbying for a cut in North Sea taxes, for companies like BP and Exxon who's profits run into Billions of pounds each year and asked if this was "sexy socialism" in action.

He then left my doorstep.

My door doesn't stay open long enough for them to ask anything.

Interestingly though I had a very nice Jehovahs Witness man at my door last night trying to flog a magazine. He seemed far more credible!

[tigertattie]

I don't want to put GC and RDW in a difficult position.

21st gets them into all kinds of difficult positions! Furry handcuffs and silk ties are apparently his favourite choices!

[RDW]

You may be unsurprised to hear that I'll be voting tactically against the SNP!

Absolutely. The problem in my constituency though is that means voting Lib Dem! Saying that our Lib Dem MP has been pretty good. He's also pushing to get better Broadband and, given how long my Playstation takes to download an update, that will go down very well.

First world problems eh!

[RuggerRadge2611]

What I wouldn't give to have a better broadband than 3mb.

[RDW]

What I wouldn't give to have a better broadband than 3mb.

You live in Fife though - just be thankful you have electricity and running water!

[RuggerRadge2611]

HEY!!!

Some of us may still live in mud huts, worship the sun and throw spears at helicopters but some Fifers actually can take some serious names on stuff like BF4 and Titanfall...

[George Carlin]

You may be unsurprised to hear that I'll be voting tactically against the SNP!

Absolutely.  The problem in my constituency though is that means voting Lib Dem! Saying that our Lib Dem MP has been pretty good.  He's also pushing to get better Broadband and, given how long my Playstation takes to download an update, that will go down very well.

First world problems eh!

How old is 'too old' to own a Playstation? Discuss.

[RuggerRadge2611]

Playstation is a Neds console. XBOX One is where it's at, and IMO you are never too old to own one. My dad is 63 and still jumps on for the occasional game of BF4.

[funnyExiledScot]

I gave up computer games when I left Uni. Not because I wouldn't still enjoy the odd game, but mainly for two reasons: (a) CM2 was making me even more anti-social than my natural inclination, and (b) I now barely have time to feed myself and go to the toilet, let alone spend hours on such things.

[RuggerRadge2611]

Fatherhood can't be that hard can it?

[funnyExiledScot]

Fatherhood can't be that hard can it?

It is unbelievably hard work!

I have an Edinburgh season ticket and live no more than 20 minutes on foot from the stadium. I think I've been to 4 games this season.

[RDW]

Playstation is a Neds console.

I highly resent that comment.

[funnyExiledScot]

Playstation is a Neds console.

I highly resent that comment.

I don't blame you. Being called a Ned by a Fifer is a low moment in ones life.....

[RuggerRadge2611]

Playstation is a Neds console.

I highly resent that comment.

True though, the neds love a bit of Fifa, Gran Turismo et al.

You never see them playing stuff like Halo or Gears of war.... you know it's the hard truths that cut the deepest.

[RDW]

Playstation is a Neds console.

I highly resent that comment.

True though, the neds normal people love a bit of Fifa, Gran Turismo et al.

You never see them only see geeks playing stuff like Halo or Gears of war.... you know it's the hard truths that cut the deepest.

#

More like it!

I'm making a big deal of this, but I genuinely don't really care! I'm not that much of a gamer, but I do like playing a bit of CoD or Assassins Creed for a bit of a release every now and then.

Also, my missus has discovered CoD - it is much better her taking her anger out on some poor 12 year old boy in France by shooting his face off online than some poor 28 year old from Edinburgh by shouting at him!

[RuggerRadge2611]

Nothing so crushing as being beaten at an FPS by a 12 year old, ok I take it back, being beaten at an FPS by your die hard "pro gamer" sister is even worse.

what makes it slightly more bearable is that she is a card carrying member of the gay and lesbian alliance.

[George Carlin]

Fatherhood can't be that hard can it?

Stop. You're killing me.

I had no white hair before I became a dad. Now the winter plumage is very evident.

[Nematode]

I'm disappointed. I've not had anyone from a political party at my door - just 10 Labour flyers.

I wanted to have a list of 10 Malcom Tucker quotes to hand and let any SNP person choose a number between 1 and 10 to receive their free Tucker insult.

Still waiting...

[IanBru]

what makes it slightly more bearable is that she is a card carrying member of the gay and lesbian alliance.

Can you imagine how confusing it must be when you have both that card and your Edinburgh Rugby Supporters Club card in your wallet? It's like the 'myWaitrose' and National Trust for Scotland membership cards in mine. So confusing.

During IndyRef I had a few Yes Scotland canvassers on my doorstep. Delightful folk, they were. The sort that you can just wind up and let go, sustaining them with the occasional 'Uh-huh', "Oh right, is that so?" and a "Really, a secret oil field? Off the Western Isles, you say? Well I never."

I once kept a guy at my door for a solid half-hour until I told him that I had to head out, reached behind my door for my giant bag of Better Together leaflets and went off on my rounds through George Square. Good giggles.

[Nematode]

what makes it slightly more bearable is that she is a card carrying member of the gay and lesbian alliance.

Can you imagine how confusing it must be when you have both that card and your Edinburgh Rugby Supporters Club card in your wallet? It's like the 'myWaitrose' and National Trust for Scotland membership cards in mine. So confusing.

During IndyRef I had a few Yes Scotland canvassers on my doorstep. Delightful folk, they were. The sort that you can just wind up and let go, sustaining them with the occasional 'Uh-huh', "Oh right, is that so?" and a "Really, a secret oil field? Off the Western Isles, you say? Well I never."

I once kept a guy at my door for a solid half-hour until I told him that I had to head out, reached behind my door for my giant bag of Better Together leaflets and went off on my rounds through George Square. Good giggles.

[highland_scot]

Incidentally, congratulating Alex Toolis for the contract extension on Facebook is Mrs Bresler, and she is, for want of a better expression, rather lovely.

Have you seen their wedding video on Youtube? When his signing was announced I went looking for highlights and stumbled across this:


He got married in white trainers; pretty sure he was allocated to the wrong Scottish club...

There is also a video of his bridesmaids singing - plenty of talent there!

[funnyExiledScot]

Agreed on the bridesmaids!! Jeez!

[George Carlin]

Incidentally, congratulating Alex Toolis for the contract extension on Facebook is Mrs Bresler, and she is, for want of a better expression, rather lovely.

Have you seen their wedding video on Youtube? When his signing was announced I went looking for highlights and stumbled across this:


He got married in white trainers; pretty sure he was allocated to the wrong Scottish club...

There is also a video of his bridesmaids singing - plenty of talent there!

And we wonder how we got to 8 threads of drivel.

[Nematode]

Bit of sad news - just read this on the BBC:

$1bn payout plan for concussed NFL players

"The NFL expects 6,000 of its approximately 20,000 retired players to develop Alzheimer's disease or dementia in their lives."

That's 30% of NFL players will get Alzheimer's or dementia. Given the similarities between American Football and Rugby (in terms of collisions), it's quite a daunting thought.

As a side note, dementia affects 7% of people over the age of 65 (http://www.alzheimers.org.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?documentID=102)

[tigertattie]

You are forgetting though that in American Wendy ball, they nut each other with helmets on with regular frequency. We don't get anywhere near as many concussions in rugby.

[jimbopip]

Tiger, I think American Football is living proof of the balsa wood car theory: if cars were flimsy and easily broken we would feel less safe and then drive more carefully, which would lead to fewer accidents. Wrap a person up in Kevlar armour and a helmet and tell them to run head first into 18 stone of muscle and bone and most people would do it. Put them in vest and pants and they would feel far more vulnerable and be less likely to do it.
One of the biggest changes in my playing time (couldn't bring myself to say career) is shoulder pads and head guards: If I'm flanking I must have my head guard on. Without it I tend to think twice before putting my head into a ruck. Does wearing it make me more or less safe? More or less risk averse?
Also we must remember that it does not need to be a blow to the head to cause a concussion. Whiplash can be just as harmful, neurologists say that what we used to call being punch drunk is often down to the soft brain tissue slamming against the skull when the head is jerked violently to the side as much as by the blow to the head. If you look at players receiving "big hits" while running flat out there must be some element of whiplash there.
I'm not sure what the answer is but I am sure that Gatland type coaches who pick the biggest and heaviest fifteen and tell them to run straight at their opposite number and keep doing it for 80 minutes are putting young men, and women, at risk of serious long term brain damage. GC and Fes will know better than I but if an employer does this regularly then are they not failing in their duty of care to their employee?
I predict that the American court case will , sooner or later, have repercussions worldwide.

[InjuredYetAgain]

I must say that, unless there are really sound medical reasons, I wouldn't want school kids wearing scrum caps. As Jimbo says, does a scrum cap give young players a feeling of invincibility? I remember reading a while ago that gumshields actually were more effective in preventing concussions. Don't know if it is true, though

[RDW]

Gumshields definitely help the severity of head knocks - I know from personal experience!

Scrum hats do not.

[Guest]

There's research I've read in my job that points to more head injuries when wearing Protective headwear. The theory being that players either a) are more fearless and take less natural care, putting their head where they normally wouldn't (as mentioned above) or b) they tend to use their head as a striking/driving force in contact sports as the wearer feels protected. Will try to dig out a link.

[InjuredYetAgain]

Gumshields definitely help the severity of head knocks - I know from personal experience!

Scrum hats do not.

Do you mean "reduce" the severity of headknocks as opposed to "help"?

[RDW]

You know what I mean!

[InjuredYetAgain]

I think I do but you are a back and so prone to moments of irrationality.

Are you a doctor, Griff? Your thoughts do support the "invincible" theory, though. That said, kids will copy what they see on TV - remember the gloves with no fingers and those ridiculous nose plasters that were first seen in the WC when it was in SA. They were supposed to let more oxygen in when you breathed so improved your efficiency round the park. Ok, so a silly little plaster could overcome the effects of years of excessive Guinness and pizza?

[Guest]

I think I do but you are a back and so prone to moments of irrationality.

Are you a doctor, Griff? Your thoughts do support the "invincible" theory, though. That said, kids will copy what they see on TV - remember the gloves with no fingers and those ridiculous nose plasters that were first seen in the WC when it was in SA. They were supposed to let more oxygen in when you breathed so improved your efficiency round the park. Ok, so a silly little plaster could overcome the effects of years of excessive Guinness and pizza?

Doctor? I wish! No, uni lecturer in sport so read a lot of research (and do some!). My colleagues are carrying out some interesting research into concussion in rugby at the moment. But I remember reading the headgear studies a few years back when researching something for a sports injuries module.

[tigertattie]

I really do not get why folk think a scrum cap will save you from concussion!

Concussion is when the brain is moved inside the skull

A scrum cap does not stop your brain form being moved in a collision!

Scrum caps are designed to protect your ears in a scrum/maul. They are not crash helmets!

[prop_lyd]

Hi guys, bit of a random request but i've been directed to this thread to see if anyone knows of/has any tickets going for the challenge cup final? I'll say it quietly but i'm a Gloucester fan!!

[RDW]

Hi guys, bit of a random request but i've been directed to this thread to see if anyone knows of/has any tickets going for the challenge cup final? I'll say it quietly but i'm a Gloucester fan!!

Well given you Gloucester fans stole a lot of the Edinburgh tickets, you may not be very successful in your request!

Joking aside, I think the deadline for Edinbrugh season ticket holders buying tickets has passed, so I think it is a free for all now. There was a time where you could order them if you had a Scottish postcode and had ordered from the SRU previously.

[tigertattie]

For the next week, Cherry fans are dirtier than the weegies!

[RDW]

For the next week, Cherry fans are dirtier than the weegies!

Well if they decide to not wash for the next week they will come close!

I can't help but feel we're not being overly helpful towards our Gloucester friend...

[funnyExiledScot]

The game must surely be sold out by now, meaning you can probably only buy on Stubhub for about £10,000 per ticket.

On a non-rugby but related theme, did you see the fiasco over the Mayweather vs PacMan bout?? Tickets sold out online in minutes for between US$1000 - US$5000, only to appear seconds later on StubHub for up to US$90,000!!!!

Surely only a few oligarchs and champagne socialist SNP members/trade union leaders can afford those sorts of prices.....

[tigertattie]

It's a proper nonsense! Tickets should only be resold for the value of the ticket!

I'm a fan of the process of having to bring proof of your address along to use your ticket!

[Nematode]

Who do people think has the potential to win the Sam Hidalgo-Clyne "Zero-to-Hero" award for next season (i.e. be on the periphery, but rise to become one of the club's top players and in with a shot of a Scotland start)?

I reckon Damien Hoyland.

[funnyExiledScot]

Who do people think has the potential to win the Sam Hidalgo-Clyne "Zero-to-Hero" award for next season (i.e. be on the periphery, but rise to become one of the club's top players and in with a shot of a Scotland start)?

I reckon Damien Hoyland.

I think by the next 6 Nations Stuart McInally will be the Edinburgh and Scotland hooker.

[highland_scot]

Who do people think has the potential to win the Sam Hidalgo-Clyne "Zero-to-Hero" award for next season (i.e. be on the periphery, but rise to become one of the club's top players and in with a shot of a Scotland start)?

I reckon Damien Hoyland.

I would be reluctant to say any Edinburgh players, given Solly's reluctance to rotate his squad and give fringe players a chance.

Saying that, I would really like to see more of Chris Dean, and given our centres are as injury-proof as Rory Lamont, hope he could get a chance. But then it's only Scottish centres who are permanently injured - Strauss seems to be indestructible...

Magnus Bradbury is also a possibility but we have a number of decent back row options.

[cp10]

Big things are expect of Allan Dell, possibly see him in Scotland shirt within the next season.

[Weegie Wizard]

Buffy's mate could be world class this time next year

[funnyExiledScot]

Big things are expect of Allan Dell, possibly see him in Scotland shirt within the next season.

Not with Dickinson and Sutherland in the squad. I've heard good things, but I don't see him in an international jersey for a while.

Bradbury isn't a bad shout, but with Denton, Du Preez, Coman and Manu in the squad for next season I think it'll take a few injuries for Bradbury to get proper game time. Perhaps season after for Bradbury. No doubt once Du Preez qualifies to play for Scotland he'll do a Maitland and leave Scotland for a more lucrative contract, and that may open a slot for Bradbury.

[IanBru]

I'll just say a quick "Lordy, lordy, glory hallelujah!" at Glasgow reaching the play-offs!

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