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Post by Rugby Fan Thu 23 Apr 2015, 2:54 am

Nick Abendanon (Clermont)
Fritz Lee (Clermont)
Steffon Armitage (Toulon)
Jamie Heaslip (Leinster)
Billy Vunipola (Saracens)

Three Englishmen on the shortlist again (2014 was Ashton, Armitage and Wilkinson). Just like last year, though, only one freely available for England.

These five were chosen from a fifteen man longlist, which you can see here:

http://www.epcrugby.com/news/30311.php

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Post by George Carlin Thu 23 Apr 2015, 7:18 am

EPCR European Player of the Year 2015 longlist
Nick Abendanon (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
Steffon Armitage (RC Toulon)
Chris Ashton (Saracens)
Jamie Heaslip (Leinster Rugby)
Juan Imhoff (Racing Metro 92)
Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby)
Fritz Lee (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
Camille Lopez (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
Ian Madigan (Leinster Rugby)
George North (Northampton Saints)
Jamie Roberts (Racing Metro 92)
Aurélien Rougerie (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
Nicolas Sanchez (RC Toulon)
Dimitri Szarzewski (Racing Metro 92)
Billy Vunipola (Saracens)
Meh. Sorry.
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Post by yappysnap Thu 23 Apr 2015, 7:24 am

Is it me or has this been a poor season for standout performances?

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Post by George Carlin Thu 23 Apr 2015, 7:31 am

yappysnap wrote:Is it me or has this been a poor season for standout performances?
That's absolutely what I was thinking.
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Post by Pot Hale Fri 24 Apr 2015, 12:48 am

Have there been standout team performances?

Clermont's demolition of Northampton sticks in my mind, but not a whole lot others.
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Post by Cyril Fri 24 Apr 2015, 12:53 am

No player has been amazing throughout.

Joseph vs Toulouse is the standout performance.

In terms of consistency it's Armitage, Abendenon and Vunipola.

I've no idea why Heaslip is there, other than a bit of leadership.

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Post by SecretFly Fri 24 Apr 2015, 1:33 pm

Cyril wrote:No player has been amazing throughout.

Joseph vs Toulouse is the standout performance.

In terms of consistency it's Armitage, Abendenon and Vunipola.

I've no idea why Heaslip is there, other than a bit of leadership.



Meanwhile, the lone Irish guy................. Shocked what's he doing there?  Indeed, what was Leinster doing there in the first place?  The plan was that they wouldn't be there!

Yeah, I'd say Heaslip dragging the rag tag Leinster fleet to within a failed drop goal attempt of a Final against the Harlem-globetrotting Toulon is pretty good reason to be there.  No dazzle, no dance, no offloading beauty, no line breaking marvel...just turning up and nearly so nearly doing it Wink

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Post by No 7&1/2 Fri 24 Apr 2015, 1:39 pm

SecretFly wrote:
Cyril wrote:No player has been amazing throughout.

Joseph vs Toulouse is the standout performance.

In terms of consistency it's Armitage, Abendenon and Vunipola.

I've no idea why Heaslip is there, other than a bit of leadership.



Meanwhile, the lone Irish guy................. Shocked what's he doing there?  Indeed, what was Leinster doing there in the first place?  The plan was that they wouldn't be there!

Yeah, I'd say Heaslip dragging the rag tag Leinster fleet to within a failed drop goal attempt of a Final against the Harlem-globetrotting Toulon is pretty good reason to be there.  No dazzle, no dance, no offloading beauty, no line breaking marvel...just turning up and nearly so nearly doing it Wink

Poor Madigan, not even considered irish now!

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Post by SecretFly Fri 24 Apr 2015, 1:48 pm

I consider him plenty Irish...but he ain't in the final list, so......................

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Post by No 7&1/2 Fri 24 Apr 2015, 1:51 pm

Neither is Joseph so i thought we were on about the long list.

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Post by SecretFly Fri 24 Apr 2015, 1:53 pm

I was on about the short one. What 'we' were on about is out of my hands. I even get it hard to keep 'me' going, nevermind 'we'. Wink

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Post by No 7&1/2 Fri 24 Apr 2015, 2:00 pm

In any case of the above not really a standout for me. Toss for it.

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Post by kunu Fri 24 Apr 2015, 2:12 pm

Reckon the lack of a standout is partly due to the dual tv coverage. Gone are the days when Barnes, Morris and Greenwood would preview every game on the rugby club, and start building the hype for the key battles. its just not really possible when the same lads don't get to focus on a single team in every round. BT came along and ruined it.
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Post by SecretFly Fri 24 Apr 2015, 2:15 pm

There you go!

That's actually the winner of player of the year for 2015.

BT!

Congrats lad. Well played.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Fri 24 Apr 2015, 2:17 pm

You need people to tell you your own opinion kunu? reckon it's more to do with the fact there really isn't a standout myself.

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Post by kunu Fri 24 Apr 2015, 2:27 pm

No of course not. But you're simply wrong if you think that Armitage, Wilkinson, Kearney or O Brien's previous awards weren't bolstered by the Sky lads' hype train. Always made for a bit of excitement on a thursday evening.
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Post by No 7&1/2 Fri 24 Apr 2015, 2:46 pm

They're still hyping now. barnes was in ecstacy watching Armitage.

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Post by kunu Fri 24 Apr 2015, 3:00 pm

Hah yeah true, that's what really reminded me of what it used to be like! Imagine Barnes got to sink his teeth into all of Toulon's Champions cup games - commentating and then analysis on the Rugby Club, when he gets to crack out the dodgy touch screen analysis with Greenwood. Suppose we don't need to, Armitage got the nod last year after all! (Absolutely deservedly so). But you get what I mean, Sky are great for getting a buzz going, and that buzz has been watered down this year.
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Post by Rugby Fan Wed 06 May 2015, 12:32 am

Nick Abendanon

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/32597318

Interesting that the last three English players to win the title (Wilkinson, Armitage and Abendanon) have not been playing for the national side

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Post by offload Wed 06 May 2015, 6:26 am

Rugby Fan wrote:Nick Abendanon

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/32597318

Interesting that the last three English players to win the title (Wilkinson, Armitage and Abendanon) have not been playing for the national side


I think that's a good choice - at least it's not a bloody Toulon player.
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Post by LordDowlais Wed 06 May 2015, 9:20 am

Of all the rugby I have watched this year, and I do not know if it is just because he is bit of a newcomer, but one person who has stood out for me in the 6N and in the European games I have watched is Jonathan Joseph, other special mentions have to go to Dan Biggar and Rhys Webb, but the English center would be my choice.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Wed 06 May 2015, 9:24 am

Joseph had one fantastic game in Europe then some good, some average from what I saw. Don't think this is based on anything other than Europe is it?

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Post by LordDowlais Wed 06 May 2015, 9:25 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:Joseph had one fantastic game in Europe then some good, some average from what I saw. Don't think this is based on anything other than Europe is it?

6n as well I would have thought. chin

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Post by Rugby Fan Wed 06 May 2015, 9:27 am

LordDowlais wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:Joseph had one fantastic game in Europe then some good, some average from what I saw. Don't think this is based on anything other than Europe is it?

6n as well I would have thought. chin
The last three winners didn't play in the 6 Nations

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Post by LordDowlais Wed 06 May 2015, 9:31 am

The last stand out player to win it in my books was Shane Williams, he was good in every competition he played in, not just the CC, it is more and more looking like a popularity contest these days.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Wed 06 May 2015, 9:36 am

It is based only on European comps. Just for the record the past winners are O'Gara, O'Brien, R Kearney, Wilkinson, S Armitage and now Abendanon.

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