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Post by Chunky Norwich Sun 10 May 2015, 3:14 pm

I'm not able to go to this derby game due to the ridiculous kick off time. But it's on s4c in 40 mins.


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Post by wales606 Sun 10 May 2015, 4:23 pm

Some lovely offloading from Patchell and Lloyd Williams.

Patchell clearly has a point to prove at 10, and after Anscombe's recent performances, he is taking his opportunity.
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Post by Guest Sun 10 May 2015, 4:28 pm

Not a bad game so far. Not sure why Williams picked up a yellow. He wasn't off his feet. No arms in the tackle?
Cardiff really making a game of it, but can they keep up the intensity?

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Post by VinceWLB Sun 10 May 2015, 4:30 pm

Munchkin wrote:Not a bad game so far. Not sure why Williams picked up a yellow. He wasn't off his feet. No arms in the tackle?
Cardiff really making a game of it, but can they keep up the intensity?

I think he never really released the player but it was hard to see from the angle they showed.

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Post by wales606 Sun 10 May 2015, 4:31 pm

Yeah, think it was for not releasing the player in the shadow of the posts
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Post by wales606 Sun 10 May 2015, 4:32 pm

Oh dear Patchell, what's happened :/
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Post by Guest Sun 10 May 2015, 4:33 pm

Thanks, Vince. I didn't think Williams actually held on to the player went he went to ground, but could have that wrong.

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Post by wales606 Sun 10 May 2015, 4:40 pm

Pretty generous penalty for the Scarlets there, saying Phil John was supporting his weight at that ruck
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Post by wales606 Sun 10 May 2015, 4:42 pm

Blues defence is actually holding up okay so far, there's a first time for everything I suppose.
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Post by Guest Sun 10 May 2015, 4:43 pm

Surely that was knocked on?

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Post by VinceWLB Sun 10 May 2015, 4:43 pm

Have Blues saved their best defence of the season for this game?

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Post by The Saint Sun 10 May 2015, 4:58 pm

Patchell looks better at fly-half than Anscombe, and should take his place in the international squad.

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Post by VinceWLB Sun 10 May 2015, 5:07 pm

Great pace from the Williams but terrible hands from Ball lol

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Post by wales606 Sun 10 May 2015, 5:08 pm

Some of Patchell's passing on the gainline is very impressive
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Post by VinceWLB Sun 10 May 2015, 5:10 pm

Cuthbert really has gone backward as a player

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Post by The Saint Sun 10 May 2015, 5:12 pm

He has. He looks a shadow of the player who made the Lions team. He could probably do with a new lease of life (IE a new club).

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Post by wales606 Sun 10 May 2015, 5:13 pm

He isn't going to make the Wales 23 and to be honest, could struggle to make the plane with the way Amos is playing (and Amos can cover 15)
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Post by wales606 Sun 10 May 2015, 5:15 pm

Scrums are a joke
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Post by Guest Sun 10 May 2015, 5:18 pm

The basic skills on show today are...well nonexistent actually

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Post by The Saint Sun 10 May 2015, 5:19 pm

wales606 wrote:He isn't going to make the Wales 23 and to be honest, could struggle to make the plane with the way Amos is playing (and Amos can cover 15)

He'll definitely be in the squad, it isn't likely that Gatland will go for Prydie over him. I would like to see Amos start though. Guess some of it also depends on whether North comes back into the squad.

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Post by Guest Sun 10 May 2015, 5:20 pm

Now S4C are so uninterested in the game they are interviewing random women about their children

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Post by VinceWLB Sun 10 May 2015, 5:23 pm

Scarlets have a major flaw in their backrow: they don't have a ball carrier. I can see them losing this one.

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Post by SecretFly Sun 10 May 2015, 5:24 pm

This game has a major flaw ... the women with children are having a better half.

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Post by Guest Sun 10 May 2015, 5:27 pm

brainless from Cardiff

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Post by Chunky Norwich Sun 10 May 2015, 5:28 pm

IronMike wrote:Now S4C are so uninterested in the game they are interviewing random women about their children

Not random women. The captain's wife.

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Post by wales606 Sun 10 May 2015, 5:29 pm

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wales606 wrote:He isn't going to make the Wales 23 and to be honest, could struggle to make the plane with the way Amos is playing (and Amos can cover 15)

He'll definitely be in the squad, it isn't likely that Gatland will go for Prydie over him. I would like to see Amos start though. Guess some of it also depends on whether North comes back into the squad.

But Gatland may choose to only take 4 back 3 players - Halfpenny, North, Williams and Amos
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Post by Guest Sun 10 May 2015, 5:30 pm

Calm down Liam

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Post by wales606 Sun 10 May 2015, 5:31 pm

Was about to say this was on course to be pretty much the only game this season that we haven't conceded a try...and the fancy Scarlets backs...drive over in a maul.
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Post by wales606 Sun 10 May 2015, 5:43 pm

Set piece has been an absolute joke from the Blues
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Post by wales606 Sun 10 May 2015, 5:45 pm

Ref has been very generous to Scarlets plays off their feet challenging for the ball
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Post by Guest Sun 10 May 2015, 5:48 pm

How did Scarlets not score a try from that....

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Post by Chunky Norwich Sun 10 May 2015, 5:53 pm

Well done boys. Connacht now need a win v Ospreys to get 6th I think

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Post by Guest Sun 10 May 2015, 5:55 pm

No bonus point for Scarlets might prove costly if they don't put Treviso away and Connacht win.

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Post by Chunky Norwich Sun 10 May 2015, 5:58 pm

Munchkin wrote:No bonus point for Scarlets might prove costly if they don't put Treviso away and Connacht win.

If Scarlets lose by more than 7 to Treviso and Connacht beat Ospreys then Scarlets don't really deserve to be 6th.

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Post by Guest Sun 10 May 2015, 6:07 pm

Treviso can be difficult to play against at home. It probably depends on their attitude on their final game of the season. I think Scarlets will win, but they have been a bit shaky away from home. Can't see them not picking up a losing bonus point at least, but still possible.

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Post by VinceWLB Sun 10 May 2015, 6:13 pm

I was impressed by Treviso results in Ireland in their last 2 games. I have been thinking they could shock Scarlets next week.

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Post by Chunky Norwich Sun 10 May 2015, 6:16 pm

VinceWLB wrote:I was impressed by Treviso results in Ireland in their last 2 games. I have been thinking they could shock Scarlets next week.

It wouldn't be a shock

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Post by SecretFly Sun 10 May 2015, 6:25 pm

Treviso have got more dogged as the season comes to an end yes.  And let's not forget they are in their own battle with Zebre to get to the Champions Cup!  Big incentive to never-say-die on the field.

Having said that, I think a side prepared to really have a genuine go at them (unlike tepid/torpid Leinster!) would still effect a pretty good win.

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Post by Pot Hale Sun 10 May 2015, 6:53 pm

That certainly makes next week's 6 matches a great last day.

1. Connacht looking for 6th spot against Ospreys looking to keep top spot or at least hang-on grimly to chances for ERCC qualification via the play-off spot.
2. Glasgow and Ulster against each other looking for the home semi-final as a minimum.
3. Munster the same against Dragons - Dragons nothing to play for though from what I can see, except to put one in the eye of an Irish province.
4. Leinster need to win against Edinburgh to make sure Scarlets can't overtake them. Edinburgh on an outside chance for 6th spot but need a TBP to do it or else get enough points to overtake Connacht for the play-off spot.
5. Treviso will be looking to nick the 7th qualifying spot from Zebre and face Scarlets looking for 6th spot.
6. Zebre away to Cardiff Blues hoping for a win against a side with nothing to play for but pride, and for Scarlets to do them a favour.

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Post by VinceWLB Sun 10 May 2015, 7:00 pm

The changes have made a MASSIVE improvement to the league. It's a shame they had to come from decisions not within the league, has to be said.

What an exciting next saturday we have in our hands.

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Post by Chunky Norwich Sun 10 May 2015, 7:05 pm

VinceWLB wrote: It's no surprise they had to come from decisions not within the league, has to be said.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Sun 10 May 2015, 7:05 pm

The Saint wrote:Patchell looks better at fly-half than Anscombe, and should take his place in the international squad.

Anscombe shouldn't have been in there in first place. Biggar Priestland and Hook for the WC then start to bring Patchell through.
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Post by Pot Hale Sun 10 May 2015, 7:07 pm

VinceWLB wrote:The changes have made a MASSIVE improvement to the league. It's a shame they had to come from decisions not within the league, has to be said.

What an exciting next saturday we have in our hands.

Well the IRFU wanted to change the format years ago, but..... devil
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Post by Pot Hale Sun 10 May 2015, 7:08 pm

Chunky Norwich wrote:
VinceWLB wrote: It's no surprise they had to come from decisions not within the league, has to be said.

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Fixed it to for you suit my agenda

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Post by SecretFly Sun 10 May 2015, 7:18 pm

VinceWLB wrote:The changes have made a MASSIVE improvement to the league. It's a shame they had to come from decisions not within the league, has to be said.

What an exciting next saturday we have in our hands.

Hold up...  it's only exciting when Pro12 maintains a serious presence in Europe too.  Let's not forget why the New Way was forced by our Competitor Leagues - it was forced to virtually end Pro12 genuine interest in Europe and let the BIG Leagues have that contest to themselves, like the good old days,

So excitement this year in Pro12 - grand.  Let's see how things pan out over the next few years in all competitions.  I do also think this year in Pro12 is being influenced by an encroaching World Cup too.

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Mon 11 May 2015, 9:06 am

VinceWLB wrote:I was impressed by Treviso results in Ireland in their last 2 games. I have been thinking they could shock Scarlets next week.

It would not be a shock. After them man shaming us at PYS on the final weekend two seasons ago (when we needed a win to secure a play off spot), I think we know exactly what to expect.
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Post by Guest Mon 11 May 2015, 9:16 am

ScarletSpiderman wrote:
VinceWLB wrote:I was impressed by Treviso results in Ireland in their last 2 games. I have been thinking they could shock Scarlets next week.

It would not be a shock.  After them man shaming us at PYS on the final weekend two seasons ago (when we needed a win to secure a play off spot), I think we know exactly what to expect.

I remember that SS. Didn't you concede 50? At home?! They have in the past had the knack of dishing out some good beatings, Treviso!

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Post by Guest Mon 11 May 2015, 9:22 am

SecretFly wrote:
VinceWLB wrote:The changes have made a MASSIVE improvement to the league. It's a shame they had to come from decisions not within the league, has to be said.

What an exciting next saturday we have in our hands.

Hold up...  it's only exciting when Pro12 maintains a serious presence in Europe too.  Let's not forget why the New Way was forced by our Competitor Leagues - it was forced to virtually end Pro12 genuine interest in Europe and let the BIG Leagues have that contest to themselves, like the good old days,

So excitement this year in Pro12 - grand.  Let's see how things pan out over the next few years in all competitions.  I do also think this year in Pro12 is being influenced by an encroaching World Cup too.


You sound like Chunky now with your conspiracy theories! You're in danger of tarnishing the product and putting off the investors Whistle

Seriously though, I'm not sure that was the reason OR the outcome (for the competitor leagues forcing it through). The Pro12's top teams are still in the Euro Comp. If they've done worse this year in Europe I don't think it's to do with the 'meritocracy' in our league. What am I missing?

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Post by SecretFly Mon 11 May 2015, 9:29 am

Griff wrote: I'm not sure that was the reason OR the outcome (for the competitor leagues forcing it through).  The Pro12's top teams are still in the Euro Comp.  If they've done worse this year in Europe I don't think it's to do with the 'meritocracy' in our league.  What am I missing?

You're missing what I said, that's what you're missing Griff. Wink  
I said 'Hold up' - let's not make rash decisions about how great the new way is until we get a few years down the line to see how genuine 'competitiveness' pans out - in all contests.

I wasn't talking about this year - obviously this year is Much too early to be making rash judgements on the success or otherwise of anything.  But that was my exact point.


Oh..... and it was a Reason not an outcome...... Whistle   I have my Chunkified Conspiracy Rights in this place too!!!

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Post by Guest Mon 11 May 2015, 9:34 am

But was it forced by our competitors to end Pro12 interest in Europe? Really?! I don't see how the changes mean that Leinster and Munster, for example, are now not contenders for Europe? How does it cripple them? That's what I'm missing!

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