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Pro12 Semi 2 - Munster Rugby v Ospreys, 23 May

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Post by George Carlin Sun 17 May 2015, 7:53 am

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Munster Rugby v Ospreys
Saturday 23 May 2015
KO: 14:30
Thomond Park, Limerick

Live on Sky Sports / TG4 / S4C

Referee: Nigel Owens (WRU, 126th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Leighton Hodges, Ian Davies (both WRU)
Citing Commissioner: TBC (SRU)
TMO: Gareth Simmonds (WRU)

A. Head to Head - Aggregate

26 Played 26
11 Wins 14
14 Losses 11
1 Draws 1
41 Tries 42
30 Conversions 29
58 Penalties 70
1 Drop Goals 3
442 Points 487
27 Avg. Age 24

B. Head to Head - Recently

Sat 7 March 2015 - Ospreys 26 - 12 Munster Rugby

Sat 27 Sept 2014 - Munster Rugby 14 - 19 Ospreys

Sun 23 Feb 2014 - Ospreys 11 - 25 Munster Rugby

Sat 2 Nov 2013 - Munster Rugby 12 - 6 Ospreys

C. Run-In

Munster Rugby

16/05/15 - Munster 50 - 27 Dragons

09/05/15 - Ulster 23 - 23 Munster

25/04/15 - Munster 30 - 19 Treviso

Ospreys

16/5/15 - Connacht 20 - 24 Ospreys

08/05/15 - Ospreys 21 - 10 Glasgow

25/04/15 - Blues 23 - 31 Ospreys

D. Teams

Munster Rugby
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[tbc]

Ospreys
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Post by Guest Fri 22 May 2015, 12:27 pm

All the best Ospreys. Glad matavesi is fit for yous

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Post by ME-109 Fri 22 May 2015, 1:21 pm

Munster team. Only TOD missing.

Munster: Felix Jones; Keith Earls, Andrew Smith, Denis Hurley, Simon Zebo; Ian Keatley, Conor Murray; Dave Kilcoyne, Eusebio Guinazu, Stephen Archer; Donnacha Ryan, Paul O'Connell; Peter O'Mahony - capt., Paddy Butler, CJ Stander.

Replacements: Duncan Casey, John Ryan, BJ Botha, Billy Holland, Jack O'Donoghue, Duncan Williams, JJ Hanrahan, Ronan O'Mahony.

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Post by wayne Fri 22 May 2015, 2:16 pm

ME-109 wrote:Munster team. Only TOD missing.

Munster: Felix Jones; Keith Earls, Andrew Smith, Denis Hurley, Simon Zebo; Ian Keatley, Conor Murray; Dave Kilcoyne, Eusebio Guinazu, Stephen Archer; Donnacha Ryan, Paul O'Connell; Peter O'Mahony - capt., Paddy Butler, CJ Stander.

Replacements: Duncan Casey, John Ryan, BJ Botha, Billy Holland, Jack O'Donoghue, Duncan Williams, JJ Hanrahan, Ronan O'Mahony.
ME, this is my estimation of our team for tomorrow compared to the corresponding fixture in the League last September, just to add AWJ was 4 then but is 5 tomorrow.
Smith Smith
Baldwin Baldwin
Arhip Arhip
AWJ AWJ
Bernardo + Ardron
Bearman Lydiate +
Tipuric Tipuric
Baker Baker
Webb Webb
Biggar Biggar
Walker Walker
Matavesi Matavesi
Bishop John +
Hassler Hassler
Evans Evans
So IMO we are slightly stronger overall because of Lydiate being in instead of Bearman, but at that time that basically was our best team
Kilcoyne Kilcoyne
Casey Guinazou +
Botha Archer +
DOC Ryan +
POC POC
Butler POM +
Dougall Butler +
Stander Stander
Murray Murray
Keatley Keatley
Heever Zebo +
Hurley Hurley
Dineen Smith +
Conway Earls +
Murphy Jones +
I don't know if you agree with my estimation? is Butler a better 6 than 7, is Felix Jones better than Johne Murphy?, please feel free to alter my opinions, I would say from that day back in September you have the most scope for improvement, with your changes, I honestly think it will be a tough day at the office for us tomorrow. With us only winning by 5 back then 19-14. Personally really looking forward to the back row battle, could go a long way to settling this match.

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Post by ME-109 Fri 22 May 2015, 2:53 pm

I would say thats a fair assessment. The big plus for us is Guinazou even though he is a hooker he has made a huge difference to our scrummaging. Also the backrow with POM in it is a lot stronger. Butler is really an 8 so expect to see POM do the scavenging work on the ground. Jones is better than Murphy at FB but I feel the O's can make ground in midfield against our centres. I wouldnt say there will be more than a score in it either way. Could depend on whether the crowd are up for it.

Backrow battle will be huge but looking forward to Webb v Murray as well. While Keatley is playing ok I think the O's halfbacks are a better combination. I think if our set piece is as good as it was against Ulster we should shade it.

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Post by profitius Sat 23 May 2015, 1:57 pm

Good to see POM back. I think this is going to be a difficult game for Munster. They finished level on points in the league and the Ospreys' backline is a more dangerous unit.

Plus Biggar is a top class kicker and doesn't miss much.

One thing in Munsters favour is experience. Ospreys are lacking experience IMO and Munster have no shortage of it.
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Post by VinceWLB Sat 23 May 2015, 2:17 pm

I think Ospreys have almost no chance to win this. Their pack isn't good enough to stand up to that Munster pack. We could see a reverse scoreline of the 2012 semi.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 23 May 2015, 2:37 pm

What a tackle from Connor Murray, and a typical turnover by Paul O'Connell. Legend.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 23 May 2015, 2:39 pm

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a real game on our hands here. Very Happy

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Post by RDW Sat 23 May 2015, 2:45 pm

Breathless stuff so far. Can't help but think whoever wins this will be champions - really can't see Glasgow coping with either team's power.

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Post by quinsforever Sat 23 May 2015, 2:48 pm

where can i watch this?

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Post by Notch Sat 23 May 2015, 2:49 pm

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 23 May 2015, 2:50 pm

That looked like a complete cheap shot on Murray on first glance?

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Post by quinsforever Sat 23 May 2015, 2:50 pm

thx notch. saints sarries on BT is on my other screen. good luck to both teams.

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Post by RDW Sat 23 May 2015, 2:50 pm

quinsforever wrote:where can i watch this?

PM'd you.

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Post by Golden Sat 23 May 2015, 2:56 pm

What did Murray go off with?

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 23 May 2015, 2:57 pm

Golden wrote:What did Murray go off with?

Unfortunately it looks like ligament damage. Lydiate came in with a late tackle, possibly no arms, into his knee. I imagine it is going to be looked at after the game. Murray did manage to walk off though.

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Post by BigGee Sat 23 May 2015, 2:57 pm

Golden wrote:What did Murray go off with?

Knee injury. Coach has just said he thinks it is medial ligaments and he will be out for a few weeks.

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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat 23 May 2015, 2:57 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
quinsforever wrote:where can i watch this?

PM'd you.

Could I get one as well please?

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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat 23 May 2015, 3:04 pm

Got one now, thanks anyway.

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 23 May 2015, 3:13 pm

Ospreys need to look out wide more, zero and Earls look like easy targets in defence

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 23 May 2015, 3:16 pm

Bad defence there from O's

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 23 May 2015, 3:17 pm

Excellent try from Munster, Joe Schmidt would be proud of that!

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 23 May 2015, 3:17 pm

maestegmafia wrote:Ospreys need to look out wide more, zero and Earls look like easy targets in defence

Zebo is a very good defender.

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Post by BigGee Sat 23 May 2015, 3:19 pm

If Keatley could kick then Munster would be out of sight by now!

Still a long way back for Ospreys, that home semi record still looking safe!

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Post by Guest Sat 23 May 2015, 3:19 pm

"the Kingspan Ravenhill stadium" Very Happy

Lovely try from Munster. Good game so far.

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Post by glamorganalun Sat 23 May 2015, 3:26 pm

Good game so far Munster's defence is proving the difference so far, O's kicking off target still all to play for.

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Post by glamorganalun Sat 23 May 2015, 3:32 pm

Another crap kick not helping O's

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Post by wales606 Sat 23 May 2015, 3:34 pm

Awful defence from Eli Walker, he will never play for Wales until that improves a lot.
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Post by glamorganalun Sat 23 May 2015, 3:34 pm

Rubbish tackle by Walker lets the game slip not doing his Wales chances any good.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 23 May 2015, 3:34 pm

If Keatley could kick, this game would be out of reach.

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Post by wales606 Sat 23 May 2015, 3:36 pm

Very harsh forward pass call if you ask me
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 23 May 2015, 3:39 pm

That was absolutely awful stuff from Stander..

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Post by wales606 Sat 23 May 2015, 3:39 pm

12 tries in 13 games for Webb, ridiculous
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Post by BigGee Sat 23 May 2015, 3:39 pm

Oh, Stander will have nightmares about that one!

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Post by wales606 Sat 23 May 2015, 3:40 pm

Very unusual miss from Biggar, they needed that too
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Post by wales606 Sat 23 May 2015, 3:42 pm

Jesus, unstoppable Munster.

Ospreys need something special now
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Post by maestegmafia Sat 23 May 2015, 3:42 pm

Great play by Munster this second half, the ospreys look rattled... Need to get the ball worked wide and well.

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Post by BigGee Sat 23 May 2015, 3:43 pm

No one can kick today!

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 23 May 2015, 3:44 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:Ospreys need to look out wide more, zero and Earls look like easy targets in defence

Zebo is a very good defender.

He is good, but he is also struggling with Hassler, and the ospreys need to exploit that more often. Hassler is very powerfull with the ball in hand

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 23 May 2015, 3:44 pm

As that try shows

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Post by glamorganalun Sat 23 May 2015, 3:44 pm

Passive defence by the Ospreys is suiting Munster, good try again by Munster.

Now a great try by Hasler

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 23 May 2015, 3:44 pm

Hassler is quite a player

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Post by wales606 Sat 23 May 2015, 3:45 pm

Magic form Hassler! Ospreys are back in it. One score game
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Post by BigGee Sat 23 May 2015, 3:45 pm

Blimey, the Ospreys are not giving up. Kick this one and the game is still alive!

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 23 May 2015, 3:46 pm

Both kickers are struggling... Doesn't look windy, maybe gusty and flakey wind direction?

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Post by BigGee Sat 23 May 2015, 3:46 pm

Keatley is having a mare, will they sub him?

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Post by glamorganalun Sat 23 May 2015, 3:47 pm

Osprey scrum getting on top but had no reward from Nigel

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 23 May 2015, 3:48 pm

Needed Matevisi to straighten up then after Evans break

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Post by glamorganalun Sat 23 May 2015, 3:50 pm

Zebo knocked it on Nig got that correct

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 23 May 2015, 3:52 pm

Ben John has really impressed me in the last few games. Not just brawn but has a decent rugby game too

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