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Post by sirbenson Tue 26 May 2015, 11:46 pm

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Selected tee-times for RD 1
10 07:40 Darren CLARKE Luke DONALD Danny WILLETT
10 07:50 Graeme MCDOWELL Lee WESTWOOD Miguel Angel JIMÉNEZ
10 08:00 Martin KAYMER Rory MCILROY Rickie FOWLER
10 08:10 Michael HOEY Stephen GALLACHER Marc WARREN
10 08:20 Matteo MANASSERO Kevin PHELAN George COETZEE
10 08:30 Paul MCGINLEY Paul LAWRIE Robert KARLSSON
1 12:30 Damien MCGRANE Thorbjørn OLESEN Alexander LEVY
1 12:40 James MORRISON Anirban LAHIRI Thongchai JAIDEE
1 12:50 Padraig HARRINGTON Mikko ILONEN Sergio GARCIA
1 13:00 Ernie ELS Shane LOWRY Francesco MOLINARI
1 13:10 Victor DUBUISSON Tommy FLEETWOOD Byeong Hun AN
1 13:20 Pablo LARRAZÁBAL Andy SULLIVAN Bernd WIESBERGER
1 13:30 Marcel SIEM Kiradech APHIBARNRAT Ross FISHER
1 13:40 Peter HANSON Nicolas COLSAERTS David HOWELL


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Post by MontysMerkin Tue 02 Jun 2015, 8:18 am

Love to see a brutal course rewarding good conservative play. Much better viewing than those pussys in the US who may as well be on a golf simulator....
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Post by liverbnz Tue 02 Jun 2015, 8:42 am

The course is tough but it's how you play the conditions which make or breaks a round at RCD.

I sat at the 10th on Friday, 196 yards Par 3 although plays much shorter with the green sheltered down below between large grass hills. Pin position was a reasonable back centre. No one really got near it - other than Anders Hansen due to a fortuitous bounce of a young kid's leg (he got a cap for his assist). I seen 3 birdies all day and 1 of those was a 30 footer sunk from the front edge.

Westwood came by, yapped for the whole time he was on the green to his caddie. His putt broke 4 feet right at the last second he said. Yapped for the whole 2 days he was here apparently. Probably won't be back I'd imagine. Wouldn't be backing him at any odds for Chambers Bay for sure.

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Post by navyblueshorts Tue 02 Jun 2015, 9:07 am

liverbnz wrote:The course is tough but it's how you play the conditions which make or breaks a round at RCD.

I sat at the 10th on Friday, 196 yards Par 3 although plays much shorter with the green sheltered down below between large grass hills. Pin position was a reasonable back centre. No one really got near it - other than Anders Hansen due to a fortuitous bounce of a young kid's leg (he got a cap for his assist). I seen 3 birdies all day and 1 of those was a 30 footer sunk from the front edge.

Westwood came by, yapped for the whole time he was on the green to his caddie. His putt broke 4 feet right at the last second he said. Yapped for the whole 2 days he was here apparently. Probably won't be back I'd imagine. Wouldn't be backing him at any odds for Chambers Bay for sure.
I'm not I see what your point is. I agree with the first line but what should they have done coming into 10? What was the wind doing? I'm no psychic - it would be useful if you could provide some context.
So Westwood was yapping; what does that have to do with how he played the conditions?
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Post by liverbnz Tue 02 Jun 2015, 11:54 am

Sorry, that post was more a spilling of things in my head.

Most were dropping short on the 10th. The conditions didn't play a massive factor here given the green  Like a full club or maybe 1.5 constantly. Line was always reasonably good but long putts were needed. I think maybe most looked at the green below and thought they could get away with a club or 2 less than what was needed.

As for Westwood, his yapping hints that he didn't play them that well.

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Post by McLaren Tue 02 Jun 2015, 12:57 pm

liver

They were dropping short because the green wasn't holding shots hit straight onto it. At least thats what it looked like on the coverage.
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Post by super_realist Tue 02 Jun 2015, 1:17 pm

or on your illegally sourced hooky stream Mac?

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Post by liverbnz Tue 02 Jun 2015, 2:27 pm

McLaren wrote:liver

They were dropping short because the green wasn't holding shots hit straight onto it.  At least thats what it looked like on the coverage.

It was downhill past the hole yes and I think you are right they were afraid of going of the back but I felt they were overcompensating.

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Post by McLaren Tue 02 Jun 2015, 2:30 pm

Could they have dropped even shorter of the green and played a shot that run up from even further back?
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Post by super_realist Tue 02 Jun 2015, 2:31 pm

Foxed by the genius of the green complex eh WikiMac?

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Post by liverbnz Tue 02 Jun 2015, 2:44 pm

A few tried that, whether intentional or otherwise, but it didn't seem to reap any rewards. Overcook and you run past leaving a tricky uphill which nearly all misjudged. The shot was to come in from the left - but then you risk the bank which would usually mean a 4.

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Post by pedro Tue 02 Jun 2015, 3:07 pm

As far as I'm concerned RCD is a 254 course.

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Post by lorus59 Tue 02 Jun 2015, 3:13 pm

pedro wrote:As far as I'm concerned RCD is a 254 course.

Probably my score for 36 holes on it.

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