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Post by hawkeye Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:25 am

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This is what Kyrgios did to gain advantage over Wawrinka in their 2nd round match in Montreal

http://thebiglead.com/2015/08/12/nick-kyrgios-to-stan-wawrinka-kokkinakis-banged-your-girlfriend-sorry-to-tell-you-that-mate/

Not only is it cheating but it should in my opinion been punished with a code violation. I believe it should have been judged as a major incident of aggravated behavior and should have resulted in Kyrgios being defaulted. It could be considered verbal abuse, unsportsmanlike behavior and conduct contrary to the integrity of the game. According to the ATP rule book a singularly egregious, a single violation of any of these offenses shall also constitute the player Major Offense of Aggravated Behavior. This carries a penalty of immediate default and can also result in suspension from the ATP tour.

So why was Kyrgios not penalized? If the Umpire didn't hear at the time penalties can be given retrospectively when evidence is discovered. My guess is that the ATP is so worried about selling the game post FeDal they are will even stoop to selling it as a circus Kyrgios is probably being paid more for this sort of behavior (in endorsements) than he is for his tennis skills Rolling Eyes It is also a way of gaining advantage in matches that doesn't involve tennis skills at all Rolling Eyes

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Post by Guest Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:43 pm

The key word was in the title of your argument, perspective.

What may not be offensive to you could offensive to others. The events you touched on in the past didn't have benefit and intrusion of social media and the intense cameras everywhere. Imagine those events happening in 2015.

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Post by MMT1 Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:06 pm

LuvSports! wrote:How was Washington???

Marvelous - didn't get that interview with Donald Dell I was hoping for, but there's always next year.
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Post by MMT1 Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:20 pm

legendkillarV2 wrote:The key word was in the title of your argument, perspective.

What may not be offensive to you could offensive to others. The events you touched on in the past didn't have benefit and intrusion of social media and the intense cameras everywhere. Imagine those events happening in 2015.

I'm sorry, I don't quite follow - are you saying the things said before are, or are not, worse than what Kyrigos said? I agree that social media has contributed to the exaggerated outrage (if that's what you meant!).
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Post by Guest Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:31 pm

MMT1 wrote:
legendkillarV2 wrote:The key word was in the title of your argument, perspective.

What may not be offensive to you could offensive to others. The events you touched on in the past didn't have benefit and intrusion of social media and the intense cameras everywhere. Imagine those events happening in 2015.

I'm sorry, I don't quite follow - are you saying the things said before are, or are not, worse than what Kyrigos said?  I agree that social media has contributed to the exaggerated outrage (if that's what you meant!).

Again perspective. Define what is worse? What Kyrgios said was of offence to Stan. Because it isn't aimed at anyone else, we don't take offence. I find what he said to be distasteful. All of what was mentioned in the article again for me distasteful. I can see why some were outraged because declaring in front of the world someone's privacy is a pretty crappy thing to do. That doesn't by any means exonerate the others mentioned.

Just that Kyrgios's words are more captured within the media because of the joy of technology.

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Post by Galted Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:09 pm

hawkeye wrote:This is what Kyrgios did to gain advantage over Wawrinka in their 2nd round match in Montreal

http://thebiglead.com/2015/08/12/nick-kyrgios-to-stan-wawrinka-kokkinakis-banged-your-girlfriend-sorry-to-tell-you-that-mate/


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Post by greengoblin Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:36 pm

Turns out now that Krygios was completely misunderstood and his 'sorry to tell you that mate' was in fact completely earnest. He'd been wracked with guilt the whole match wondering whether to tell Stan or not. In the end, he just couldn't contain his altruistic urges.

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:46 pm

Can't believe there has been 6 pages of discussion on this. Who cares?!?!

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 03, 2015 3:14 pm

As my granddad once said "Doesn't care was meant to care"

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Post by Jahu Thu Sep 03, 2015 3:19 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Can't believe there has been 6 pages of discussion on this. Who cares?!?!

Unless you like to hear about who banged your GF, everyone else should care Laugh

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Post by Jahu Thu Sep 03, 2015 3:20 pm

legendkillarV2 wrote:As my granddad once said "Doesn't care was meant to care"

Very true, sadly you have not learned anything from that smart old man... laughing
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu Sep 03, 2015 3:22 pm

Is there a thread discussing Azarenka?

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Post by Jahu Thu Sep 03, 2015 3:24 pm

No, there are 20 more sexier players then her now.

You don't watch much tennis, do you?
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Post by greengoblin Thu Sep 03, 2015 3:40 pm

Jahu wrote:No, there are 20 more sexier players then her now.

You don't watch much tennis, do you?

Have to agree. Has never struck me as attractive - same with wozniacki.

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Post by Jahu Thu Sep 03, 2015 3:52 pm

Yeah, while Aza has some thighs, Woz is downright a farm girl gone bad in the city.
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:24 pm

Jahu wrote:No, there are 20 more sexier players then her now.

You don't watch much tennis, do you?

Good lord no, not my type of sport.

But she was rude to an umpire, which is far worse than being rude to another player, so I assumed this section had gone into meltdown.

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Post by Jahu Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:45 pm

Rude? Serena has threatened the line umpire with "I could kill you/i did not say I could kill you"

Rude is IN man, including sexual stories of your friends bedroom Wink
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Post by temporary21 Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:54 pm

Do I start inserting the Graphite rods? Very Happy

Damn auto correct


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Post by Jahu Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:04 pm

Are we friends now, tempo?

You flirting with me again?

Hope LF does not see this comment, she will be jealous Laugh
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Post by Guest Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:14 pm

Nah not meltdown.

I think the shock factor has subsided. It just gets a little crazy when it gets compared to other incidents the waters become muddier. Then it's a meltdown.

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Post by LuvSports! Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:24 pm

Vintage Yazoooooo!

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:28 pm

I didn't know you were a Moyet fan!

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Post by Jahu Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:28 pm

Luv, how's your book going?

ignore the moral side of this thread, don't get carried away Wink
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Post by JuliusHMarx Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:30 pm

legendkillarV2 wrote:I didn't know you were a Moyet fan!

Depends on the Situation.

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Post by LuvSports! Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:58 pm

Jahu wrote:Luv, how's your book going?

ignore the moral side of this thread, don't get carried away Wink

Haha, waiting until after the US open to pitch it to Tennis.com. 
Starting my new job in Wiltshire soon as a reporter. Big scary world for little LS.
How's the saucy hunt going? As saucy as a direct hit on a heinz factory?

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Post by Jahu Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:34 pm

Ah nice, chill till then.

Hunting season has finished, now I'm just dipping into sauce, but slowly and gently Smile
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Post by Galted Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:55 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:
legendkillarV2 wrote:I didn't know you were a Moyet fan!

Depends on the Situation.

Only You could come up with that.
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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:16 am

Jahu wrote:
Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Can't believe there has been 6 pages of discussion on this. Who cares?!?!

Unless you like to hear about who banged your GF, everyone else should care  Laugh


60% of the time, it works everytime.

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Post by temporary21 Fri Sep 04, 2015 1:18 pm

So in conclusion, its either political correctness gone mad, panic everyone!
or its a total disgrace to humanity, panic everyone!
Its just a bum move, the sort of thing footballers would do, but tennis players are expected to have a better standard.

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